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By Purple Haize
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LUconn wrote:How do you know any of that? You're getting the majority of your information through that message board or articles written that are getting info from that message board. Not terribly reliable. And that info has both pointed to and away from LU. You're choosing to filter it under the premise I just mentioned.
You forgot to mention people I may or may not know at some of the schools involved.

ROOSTER it's pretty easy to figure out who Campaign4Liberty is on this board. I read the boards two days ago and figured it out in about 5 posts
By LUconn
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Liberty22 wrote:The only thing JLFJR said was we will be FBS sometime in the future, could be 10 days could be 10 years. It's not like he said we will join the SBC this year and no one here is taking him serious. The fact of the matter is, when there has been smoke on the message boards in the past then it generally happens in due time so you have to take MB posts with a grain of salt but at the same time there is some truth to them.
I'm speaking in regards to political and/or religious reasons of exclusion.
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By LUaddict
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BuryYourDuke wrote:What people say to your face, and what they say behind closed doors are entirely different in many cases...
Bingo, BYD hit it on the nail!

Posters on this board that feel that we are not being held back by our academic, political, and comments made by JF SR have their head buried in the sand. Our lack of success on the field amd lack thereof postseason success, mainly in football and basketball field is also hurting us. Yes we have money, upgraded facilities, and fully funded and fully staffed athletic department, and yes are all pluses. If we cannot be viewed as a peer academic institution, we will not be invited. Unless, there is more significant realignment movement that happens soon, then the SBC might take a good and hard look and willing to invites us. And that's after JMU, Jax ST,MO ST, SHSU, and Larmar decline or not voted in, or blocked by other members.

It is general knowledge that JLF JR and JB are attempting to lead us in positive direction and I feel that are doing the best they can. Academic institutions and the rest of the world don't have a short memory It not about our religious views, it's how and what we've delivered to the public and in what context we've delivered in, and depending on what situation we have applied it to.

I know that LU is making improvements to our academic programs, but I want to see Liberty to become a premiere and prestigious institution of higher learning. Not a research university, but focused and grounded on a higher level of academic success and further extending our research focus our academic programs, and raising our admissions standards, and recruiting higher caliber students to LU. We can do this without compromising our mission, standards and morals. There a re plenty of instructions of higher learning that have been able to accomplish this. Look at BYU, we are obviously not aligned with them theologically and look at their success as a Mormon University.

I am from California and currently reside here as well and I have been to many Christian and catholic colleges here. These institutions have been able to reach a considerable level of academic success without compromising their mission, morals, and theology; and are still respected and successful universities and colleges. Two schools that come to mind that remind me of Liberty from a Chistian environment perspective is Biola and Westmont college. They have a very intimate, inviting, and supportive environment like LU, but LU has an NCAA DIV I athletics and larger institution by enrollment. Biola and Westmont are also academically accomplished schools, I feel that Liberty has the resources to be similarly accomplished from an academic perspective.

Many students that are not even Christian apply to these schools because, they have a lot to offer them, such as considerable opportunities after college because they attended a great school, now imagine if you added a large enrollment with NCAA DIV I athletic department. We need to work on polishing our rep and work on being more inviting, tolerant, and serving our fellow man. So we are at least viewed in that manner, because perception is everything and viewed as reality. I am not saying to become liberal or secular, just more academically respected , less inflammatory, and viewed more as a tolerant school. And definitley disassociate with people that hurt our image as an institution. These are my views as a fellow alum with concerns on Liberty's growth and direction.

(End Rant)

Whew!
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By rogers3
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LUaddict wrote: I know that LU is making improvements to our academic programs, but I want to see Liberty to become a premiere and prestigious institution of higher learning. Not a research university, but focused and grounded on a higher level of academic success and further extending our research focus our academic programs, and raising our admissions standards, and recruiting higher caliber students to LU. We can do this without compromising our mission, standards and morals.

Biola and Westmont are also academically accomplished schools, I feel that Liberty has the resources to be similarly accomplished from am academic perspective.
Sadly, and not due to existing faculty, we are a long way from this ideal in many programs.


OK- back on topic.
By sigmo7
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Rooster i'm still your buddy. I know everybody wants to move up to big boy football. i'm sure it will happen, but when and where nobody really knows.

I think LU brings enough to the table now and a whole lot of potential for the future. the thought of us kissing the "A" of the SBC is crazy. either they like what we offer or they don't. you can't make somebody like you. when I was younger used to think i needed/wanted everybody to like me, as of now i couldn't care less.
prior to all this i couldn't name 3 teams from the SBC. other than being in the FBS is this the conference we want to get our national exposure? ( i know the crawl before you walk situation) if we are gonna make a splash lets go when and where we are wanted. we shouldn't play 2nd fiddle to anybody. but i reckon some people will put there tux on the day of the prom and hope the mean girl calls right at the last minute after he first few options cancel.

if we follow in the footsteps of most teams that move up we will be sucking hind tit for a while. i would prefer to suck the hind tit on the biggest sow we can latch on to. not just any tit available. we aren't gonna starve to death. we still have the BSC to nurse us along

as for people talking on their message board i can't and won't tell people what to do, but just remember you can't argue with a stupid person. we shouldn't have to explain anything to some dumb "A" on a message board. they complain about us being religous, but i like the idea that i will hopefully get to heaven whether we are in the BSC or the SBC. i can think of a lot more fun things i could do to go against the lord than dog somebody on a message board about there religous views as the mighty SBC posters do.

trying to think if there is any think else i need to say because this will be my one and only post on the subject. oh yeah. is there any way that all of our people that are fighting with each other could put on the fat suits and fight it out at half time of the spring game?

summary= I will support LU in any conference but will not kiss anbodys "A" to get there.

i know some people will disagree or be offended with how and what i said, but atleast with me you know who you are talking about. GO FLAMES!!! Ronnie
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By flameshaw
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sigmo7 wrote:Rooster i'm still your buddy. I know everybody wants to move up to big boy football. i'm sure it will happen, but when and where nobody really knows.

I think LU brings enough to the table now and a whole lot of potential for the future. the thought of us kissing the "A" of the SBC is crazy. either they like what we offer or they don't. you can't make somebody like you. when I was younger used to think i needed/wanted everybody to like me, as of now i couldn't care less.
prior to all this i couldn't name 3 teams from the SBC. other than being in the FBS is this the conference we want to get our national exposure? ( i know the crawl before you walk situation) if we are gonna make a splash lets go when and where we are wanted. we shouldn't play 2nd fiddle to anybody. but i reckon some people will put there tux on the day of the prom and hope the mean girl calls right at the last minute after he first few options cancel.

if we follow in the footsteps of most teams that move up we will be sucking hind tit for a while. i would prefer to suck the hind tit on the biggest sow we can latch on to. not just any tit available. we aren't gonna starve to death. we still have the BSC to nurse us along

as for people talking on their message board i can't and won't tell people what to do, but just remember you can't argue with a stupid person. we shouldn't have to explain anything to some dumb "A" on a message board. they complain about us being religous, but i like the idea that i will hopefully get to heaven whether we are in the BSC or the SBC. i can think of a lot more fun things i could do to go against the lord than dog somebody on a message board about there religous views as the mighty SBC posters do.

trying to think if there is any think else i need to say because this will be my one and only post on the subject. oh yeah. is there any way that all of our people that are fighting with each other could put on the fat suits and fight it out at half time of the spring game?

summary= I will support LU in any conference but will not kiss anbodys "A" to get there.

i know some people will disagree or be offended with how and what i said, but atleast with me you know who you are talking about. GO FLAMES!!! Ronnie
Post of this thread, thanks for your insightful input. Well put!!!!
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By Rooster Cogburn
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Ronnie, See what you did. I wasn't going to log in and comment any more either, but with that I had to. Funniest post in the history of FlameFans! So Funny!

And I'm glad you like me, but I don't really care who does. haha
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By adam42381
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sigmo7 wrote:Rooster i'm still your buddy. I know everybody wants to move up to big boy football. i'm sure it will happen, but when and where nobody really knows.

I think LU brings enough to the table now and a whole lot of potential for the future. the thought of us kissing the "A" of the SBC is crazy. either they like what we offer or they don't. you can't make somebody like you. when I was younger used to think i needed/wanted everybody to like me, as of now i couldn't care less.
prior to all this i couldn't name 3 teams from the SBC. other than being in the FBS is this the conference we want to get our national exposure? ( i know the crawl before you walk situation) if we are gonna make a splash lets go when and where we are wanted. we shouldn't play 2nd fiddle to anybody. but i reckon some people will put there tux on the day of the prom and hope the mean girl calls right at the last minute after he first few options cancel.

if we follow in the footsteps of most teams that move up we will be sucking hind tit for a while. i would prefer to suck the hind tit on the biggest sow we can latch on to. not just any tit available. we aren't gonna starve to death. we still have the BSC to nurse us along

as for people talking on their message board i can't and won't tell people what to do, but just remember you can't argue with a stupid person. we shouldn't have to explain anything to some dumb "A" on a message board. they complain about us being religous, but i like the idea that i will hopefully get to heaven whether we are in the BSC or the SBC. i can think of a lot more fun things i could do to go against the lord than dog somebody on a message board about there religous views as the mighty SBC posters do.

trying to think if there is any think else i need to say because this will be my one and only post on the subject. oh yeah. is there any way that all of our people that are fighting with each other could put on the fat suits and fight it out at half time of the spring game?

summary= I will support LU in any conference but will not kiss anbodys "A" to get there.

i know some people will disagree or be offended with how and what i said, but atleast with me you know who you are talking about. GO FLAMES!!! Ronnie
Tits. :lol:
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By flamesfilmguy
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BuryYourDuke wrote:Actually, this would have been the time where it would have been awesome for all if us to disappear off of their boards, and don't go back until we join their league. That would be an actual statement. Stop looking so desperate. I'm sure it's already too late though.
QFT it would be awesome if we all disappeared then came back with a big "WEEEEERRRRRREE BAAAAACK!" if we get in. even though i still find that highly doubtful
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By Kolzilla41
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I just read the last two pages and boy are they titillating... In all seriousness, please stay off the Sunbelt boards. The constant arguing is not going to amount to a hill of beans ( channeling my inner BJ).
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By Liberty22
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Quit your b..... about being on the boards my God there are a bunch of crybabies on this thing. They are taking a poll of the amount of fans for prospective schools, they think no one gives a rip about Liberty. This is a good opportunity to take a QUIET stand for our school by voting for us. You guys act like any conversation over there is the end of the world, get a grip.
By LUconn
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I really think internet policing is stupid but I guess I just don't understand what you're trying to accomplish over there. It's a few jokers and their poll's skewed results will only ever be known to those same jokers. You can't change people's minds on the internet so your posting is strictly for your own personal entertainment.

The only positive I see from constantly kicking that hornets nest is that when they eventually settle on us because they have to, the meltdown will be hilarious.
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By Liberty22
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thepostman wrote:Any conversation over there isn't the end of the world, but it is a huge waste of time
I agree, that's why i cut back a lot lately but this is just a poll with no commentary needed and people are making a mountain out of a molehill. I just think it would be a nice show of 'strength' to show we have fans QUIETLY by just voting and leaving
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By jbock13
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Liberty22 wrote:Quit your b..... about being on the boards my God there are a bunch of crybabies on this thing. They are taking a poll of the amount of fans for prospective schools, they think no one gives a rip about Liberty. This is a good opportunity to take a QUIET stand for our school by voting for us. You guys act like any conversation over there is the end of the world, get a grip.
"GET OFF THE (DARN) BOARD!!!!!"

Thank you Will Ferrell :D
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By Purple Haize
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ATrain wrote:The Sunbelt will invite us after they see we get more votes than any other school on an unofficial fan board.
See! That's the Spirit!

And lets be honest. There is really only one poster over there who is making the other posters look like idiots. Let alone reinforcing the bad reputation LU already enjoys.
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