[Humble_Opinion]

The Towson RB pickup looks good. If that OL gels, he could be a good one.

[LU Armchair coach]

It's a valid question to ask whether Coach Chadwell is focused on building LU Champions for Christ or just recruiting to win games. From what I've seen and heard, it seems like he's genuinely committed to both. Winning games is important, but it's clear that developing character and faith in the players is a top priority. The emphasis on being Champions for Christ goes beyond the scoreboard, aiming to shape individuals who will make a positive impact both on and off the field. It's about creating a legacy of integrity, faith, and excellence. So, while victories on the field are celebrated, the ultimate goal is to raise leaders who embody the values of Christ in every aspect of their lives. Does he seem to recruit kids with high character, good family backgrounds?

[prototype]

It's a valid question to ask whether Coach Chadwell is focused on building LU Champions for Christ or just recruiting to win games. From what I've seen and heard, it seems like he's genuinely committed to both. Winning games is important, but it's clear that developing character and faith in the players is a top priority. The emphasis on being Champions for Christ goes beyond the scoreboard, aiming to shape individuals who will make a positive impact both on and off the field. It's about creating a legacy of integrity, faith, and excellence. So, while victories on the field are celebrated, the ultimate goal is to raise leaders who embody the values of Christ in every aspect of their lives. Does he seem to recruit kids with high character, good family backgrounds?

I think you can have both... And HCJC does a great job, IMO, at this. He recruits great kids - are they all Christians? Probably not, but when they get here are they in a great Christian atmosphere? yes and that's the vision Falwell, Sr. had. It's definitely a balancing act, but Liberty doesn't invest as much money on athletics to not win...

[LU Armchair coach]

A Christian atmosphere? Absolutely—just like trying to balance a holy high-five with a touchdown dance! It's definitely a juggling act, but hey, if anyone can pull it off, it's the team with faith and a game plan.

How much money does Liberty really invest in athletics to not win—are we talking "championship-level" budgets or just enough to keep the snack bar stocked? I heard OSU spent $25 million on their current roster—how can LU compete with these collectives, or are we just hoping to win with a great pep talk and some really, really motivational posters?

[prototype]

A Christian atmosphere? Absolutely—just like trying to balance a holy high-five with a touchdown dance! It's definitely a juggling act, but hey, if anyone can pull it off, it's the team with faith and a game plan.

How much money does Liberty really invest in athletics to not win—are we talking "championship-level" budgets or just enough to keep the snack bar stocked? I heard OSU spent $25 million on their current roster—how can LU compete with these collectives, or are we just hoping to win with a great pep talk and some really, really motivational posters?

I don't know how much money Liberty spends, but I know it's more then most programs in the country. Our facilities are 1st rate, our teams travel all over the world, and yes - we have a collective that is higher then most, but not higher then a SEC or Big Ten school.

[LU Armchair coach]

Liberty's budget must be so high, even our travel itineraries need passports! Our collective is higher than most, but not quite SEC or Big Ten levels? No problem, I guess we’ll just dominate everyone else and leave those two conferences to argue over who has the most expensive roster and the two conferences that own all the trophies!

[LU Armchair coach]

How much is Liberty giving in NIL, and how do they decide who gets what—do they hand out cash like Oprah giving away cars, or is there a secret "performance, potential, and maybe a little bit of charm" spreadsheet we don't know about?

[cruzan_flame13]

A Christian atmosphere? Absolutely—just like trying to balance a holy high-five with a touchdown dance! It's definitely a juggling act, but hey, if anyone can pull it off, it's the team with faith and a game plan.

How much money does Liberty really invest in athletics to not win—are we talking "championship-level" budgets or just enough to keep the snack bar stocked? I heard OSU spent $25 million on their current roster—how can LU compete with these collectives, or are we just hoping to win with a great pep talk and some really, really motivational posters?

I don't know how much money Liberty spends, but I know it's more then most programs in the country. Our facilities are 1st rate, our teams travel all over the world, and yes - we have a collective that is higher then most, but not higher then a SEC or Big Ten school.

Might need to update the slogan; if it's 'Christian,' then it ought to be better [than most] .

[Tothehoopyall1]

How much is Liberty giving in NIL, and how do they decide who gets what—do they hand out cash like Oprah giving away cars, or is there a secret "performance, potential, and maybe a little bit of charm" spreadsheet we don't know about?

Good luck getting an answer on this. I've tried but it seems to be top secret (basically just get "we are doing well" but not sure what this means). VCU is supposedly now at $384k per year for mens basketball players https://x.com/CBKReport/status/1875960107793809616?mx=2 . I am pretty sure we are not doing this yet but who knows. It's been a tightlipped thing.

[jcmanson]

Has any other CUSA member publicly released their NIL budget? What advantage would Liberty gain by making that information public? I do know the LU Collective provides an annual budget type of information to its top donors.

[LU Armchair coach]

NIL and CUSA? Well, it’s like showing up to a potluck with a casserole you found in the back of your fridge, while the Big Ten and SEC stroll in with catered steak dinners and a dessert table that could feed a small country. I mean, sure, CUSA has its NIL deals, but when you're going up against schools with more NIL money than I’ve spent on coffee this month, it’s like bringing a water gun to a tank battle. Maybe one day, CUSA will level up, but for now, I’m pretty sure the Big10 & SEC is out there handing out signing bonuses like it’s a Black Friday sale—while we’re just trying to make sure everyone gets at least one good pair of socks for the season!

[LU Armchair coach]

Ah, the world wide web – where you can find everything from cat videos to the latest scoop on NIL budgets!

Stumbling upon NIL info online is like finding a golden ticket in a chocolate bar. You never know what kind of sweet surprises you'll uncover!

Just remember, when you're diving into the depths of the internet for NIL details, keep your snorkel handy – you might need it to navigate through all the hype and speculation!

Below is what i found.
THOUGHTS


https://sportsdata.usatoday.com/ncaa/finances
https://biz.opendorse.com/wp-content/up ... .pdf#gf_46
https://nil-ncaa.com/cusa/

Jacksonville State head football coach Rich Rodriquez made clear the role of NIL collectives: ” … these commercial entities are doing for the student-athletes what the institutions themselves are prohibited from doing.”

[Humble_Opinion]

With the world of NIL, there has been a "privatization" of funding so that it's difficult to track the true costs applied towards athletics. There are reporting requirements for any LU-related spend on Athletics that you can access easily through the US DOE Equity in Athletics Database. The data is often a year or more behind, but LU's latest Athletics spend report for FY 2023 (7/1/22 - 6/30/23) shows a spend of ~$63M. Considering we were just transitioning to CUSA, it's likely that number has climbed to be close to or over $65M. That puts us at nearly $30M higher than the next CUSA member and is good enough for top 5 in the G5. If reporting on HCJC's salary is accurate, he's the highest paid G5 coach and by a rather large amount.

As far as the NIL's go, eventually reporting requirements will catch up to them, especially since the donations applied are "tax exempt" in many cases. Some collectives are for-profit and others are 501c3 (not-for-profit). The ones under the latter should be required to file a form 990, which you can find on Guidestar.org if you know what you're doing. If they're for-profit then the reporting becomes less available to the public.

[LU Armchair coach]

https://nil-ncaa.com/football/

[LU Armchair coach]

With the world of NIL, there has been a "privatization" of funding so that it's difficult to track the true costs applied towards athletics. There are reporting requirements for any LU-related spend on Athletics that you can access easily through the US DOE Equity in Athletics Database. The data is often a year or more behind, but LU's latest Athletics spend report for FY 2023 (7/1/22 - 6/30/23) shows a spend of ~$63M. Considering we were just transitioning to CUSA, it's likely that number has climbed to be close to or over $65M. That puts us at nearly $30M higher than the next CUSA member and is good enough for top 5 in the G5. If reporting on HCJC's salary is accurate, he's the highest paid G5 coach and by a rather large amount.

As far as the NIL's go, eventually reporting requirements will catch up to them, especially since the donations applied are "tax exempt" in many cases. Some collectives are for-profit and others are 501c3 (not-for-profit). The ones under the latter should be required to file a form 990, which you can find on Guidestar.org if you know what you're doing. If they're for-profit then the reporting becomes less available to the public.

Hey, just curious – when you mention the $63 million budget, is that an all-in number? Does it cover everything like salaries, hotels, planes, travel, uniforms, and all the other expenses?

It'd be interesting to know how they break it all down!

[Sly Fox]

Yes, it includes all expenses. Sometimes programs hide other expsenses inside the budget. Other schools disguise the real costs from prying eyes.

As a private institution, LU is not required to break those numbers down,

[LU Armchair coach]

Yes, it includes all expenses. Sometimes programs hide other expsenses inside the budget. Other schools disguise the real costs from prying eyes.

As a private institution, LU is not required to break those numbers down,

https://nil-ncaa.com/cusa/


Ah, the old "hide and seek" game with expenses! It's like trying to find Waldo in a sea of budget lines. Some programs are masters at it, slipping in costs like they're secret agents on a mission.

And as for LU, being a private institution, they get to keep their financial secrets locked up tighter than Fort Knox!

Who knew budgets could be so mysterious and entertaining?

[Humble_Opinion]

LU being private doesn't mean they don't have to report their financials, but it does mean the reporting requirements are different. They report a lot of relevant financial data on their form 990 that provides Balance Sheet and P&L data, plus other interesting tidbits like compensation data for the highest earning employees. In addition, like all accredited institutions (public or private) they have to report a whole host of data, including financials to the National Center for Education Statistics (NCES). If you know a little bit about excel, you can download data from virtually every college across the land and use it for your own ends.

My first finance position was at LU and I spent plenty of time looking at EADA data and the database at the NCES. Those were exciting times. I still use the data from time-to-time when I get curious. I was going to provide a counterargument to something JCManson said on the ASeaofRed podcast from this week on athletics spending in the CUSA...

[LU Armchair coach]

HCJC's salary is so high, it's like the Bigfoot of CUSA—everyone talks about it, but no one can actually pin it down! At over $4 million, it's in a league of its own. Meanwhile, JAX St is trailing behind at $1.056 million, and LA Tech and Middle TN are just hitting the $1 million mark.

And let's not even get started on the facilities. It's like comparing a five-star resort to a roadside motel!

With assistant coaches averaging $173,000 and head coaches just under a million, it seems like LU is playing in a different league altogether.

What do you think? Should we start a salary negotiation masterclass with HCJC as the instructor?

[LU Armchair coach]

LU being private doesn't mean they don't have to report their financials, but it does mean the reporting requirements are different. They report a lot of relevant financial data on their form 990 that provides Balance Sheet and P&L data, plus other interesting tidbits like compensation data for the highest earning employees. In addition, like all accredited institutions (public or private) they have to report a whole host of data, including financials to the National Center for Education Statistics (NCES). If you know a little bit about excel, you can download data from virtually every college across the land and use it for your own ends.

My first finance position was at LU and I spent plenty of time looking at EADA data and the database at the NCES. Those were exciting times. I still use the data from time-to-time when I get curious. I was going to provide a counterargument to something JCManson said on the ASeaofRed podcast from this week on athletics spending in the CUSA...

Hey Humble_Opinion, we need that counterargument you were talking about to something JCManson said on the ASeaofRed podcast this week about athletics spending in CUSA. Don’t leave us hanging—this sounds like it could be the podcast equivalent of a plot twist! Hit us with that mic drop response... we’re all waiting for the real take!

[Ill flame]

Jcmanson basically said our basketball spending isn’t head and shoulders above CUSA teams (like western Kentucky) compared to what it was in the Asun. Our spending is definitely head and shoulders above the rest of CUSA but the point stands that the gap is much smaller than it was before. Not sure we really need data to argue that point one way or another unless you’re just curious how big those gaps in spending are.

[LU Armchair coach]

"With our state-of-the-art facilities, top-notch travel arrangements, stylish uniforms, coaches' salaries, and exceptional care for our athletes, there's no way we're not the top of CUSA. LU's resources and commitment to excellence make us the gold standard. It's like comparing a luxury cruise to a rowboat—no contest! "

[olldflame]

Maybe we can get the Reverend777 back. He's 3 bills plus now, and 100% an inside guy.

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[LUOrange]

Maybe we can get the Reverend777 back. He's 3 bills plus now, and 100% an inside guy.

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He's a great kid, but he's in the portal every year. Definitely has commitment issues to say the least. He'd be a solid contributor by now if he'd had just stayed put.

[olldflame]

Maybe we can get the Reverend777 back. He's 3 bills plus now, and 100% an inside guy.

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He's a great kid, but he's in the portal every year. Definitely has commitment issues to say the least. He'd be a solid contributor by now if he'd had just stayed put.

He really has gotten around, but this is going to be his last stop, so why not finish up where you started?