[SumItUp]

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That's why some FBS independents have spoken informally about playing a 2020 schedule among themselves if a full season isn't played due to the coronavirus, CBS Sports has learned.

The talks do not involve Notre Dame or BYU. The remaining FBS independents are Army West Point, Liberty, New Mexico State, UConn and UMass.

"Two weeks ago, we thought the conference-only schedule was a possibility, so we've been doing the same thing," Army AD Mike Buddie said. "We've already reached out to UConn, UMass, New Mexico State, Liberty and Notre Dame. They're all doing the same thing."

[LUOrange]

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That's why some FBS independents have spoken informally about playing a 2020 schedule among themselves if a full season isn't played due to the coronavirus, CBS Sports has learned.

The talks do not involve Notre Dame or BYU. The remaining FBS independents are Army West Point, Liberty, New Mexico State, UConn and UMass.

"Two weeks ago, we thought the conference-only schedule was a possibility, so we've been doing the same thing," Army AD Mike Buddie said. "We've already reached out to UConn, UMass, New Mexico State, Liberty and Notre Dame. They're all doing the same thing."

I can understand Notre Dame being carried by the ACC or anyone that wants to play them, but who's bailing out BYU? If we had to resort to this, I think we'd all love and want BYU on it. Hopefully, we've talked to them as well.

[ballcoach15]

No one should play Notre Dame, until the golden domers start playing by the same rules as all other FBS schools.

[Purple Haize]

No one should play Notre Dame, until the golden domers start playing by the same rules as all other FBS schools.

What different set of rules do they have? More scholarships? Extra downs on offense fewer on defense? Start with the ball on their side of the 50 yard line on offense?

[LUGrad2000]

BYU would be in the same boat as the rest of us independents.

[ballcoach15]

No one should play Notre Dame, until the golden domers start playing by the same rules as all other FBS schools.

What different set of rules do they have? More scholarships? Extra downs on offense fewer on defense? Start with the ball on their side of the 50 yard line on offense?

PH, if I need to explain that to you, you should give up on sports, and start taking piano lessons.

[thepostman]

They play by the same rules. They came to an agreement with the ACC that nobody forced on the ACC. I know you don't like it but such is life I guess.

[Purple Haize]

No one should play Notre Dame, until the golden domers start playing by the same rules as all other FBS schools.

What different set of rules do they have? More scholarships? Extra downs on offense fewer on defense? Start with the ball on their side of the 50 yard line on offense?

PH, if I need to explain that to you, you should give up on sports, and start taking piano lessons.

This is called Projection. You are projecting your ignorance onto others.

[Purple Haize]

They play by the same rules. They came to an agreement with the ACC that nobody forced on the ACC. I know you don't like it but such is life I guess.

This is where the problem starts. He makes a statement and cannot back it up. Adds nothing to the dialogue.

[ballcoach15]

I don't need to back any statement up about Notre Dame. Anyone who knows anything about college football, should know the special treatment ND gets. Y'all can play mind games all you want, but you know ND is treated differently than the other FBS schools. NCAA has them on same plateau as a power 5 conference. Their AD is considered a peer to conference commissioners.

[thepostman]

Any school with the history of Notre Dame gets treated in a certain way. You may not like it and I may not like it but that is the reality of how things work. Notre Dame has kept themselves where they are by making very smart, strategic moves such as the partnership they have with the ACC. Nobody is forcing the ACC to partner with Notre Dame but it is a mutually beneficial relationship.

This has nothing to do with the 2020 season. It is just another example of you allowing your personal biases effect how you feel about a situation. I am not a fan of Notre Dame, I do not like Notre Dame and think they are over rated year in a year out but just because I feel that way doesn't mean that somehow they are above all the rules as you seem to claim.

Here is a good article to get us on track:

Intraconference college football an option in 2020 if leagues cannot align return-to-play timelines

Conferences could conceivably play their own respective seasons in 2020 if unable to play nonconference games due to lack of alignment at the state or university level of reopening amid the coronavirus pandemic. That's the measure of the desperation for college football's stakeholders to get access to the TV rights revenue that sustains the sport.

The more I read about the situation and the logistics involved the more I think that Sly may be onto something with the spring ball idea. There is just far too many moving pieces around the country at the college level. None of this should be decided until mid-summer at the earliest as we continue to monitor the situation.

[Purple Haize]

I don't need to back any statement up about Notre Dame. Anyone who knows anything about college football, should know the special treatment ND gets. Y'all can play mind games all you want, but you know ND is treated differently than the other FBS schools. NCAA has them on same plateau as a power 5 conference. Their AD is considered a peer to conference commissioners.

The bold part is your argument. Stay with that. Be specific. They do not play by any different rules on the field so saying teams shouldn’t play them until they play by the same rules is stupid in that regard.
In fact, I would wager my next bonus check that you would try to take some type of credit if ND scheduled LU. The next two that you wouldn’t be saying what a calamity it it.
ND has earned the right to be treated differently than say Appy St or Toledo off the field. If YOU don’t see that it’s obviously a YOU problem.

[tyndal23]

I don't need to back any statement up about Notre Dame. Anyone who knows anything about college football, should know the special treatment ND gets. Y'all can play mind games all you want, but you know ND is treated differently than the other FBS schools. NCAA has them on same plateau as a power 5 conference. Their AD is considered a peer to conference commissioners.

The bold part is your argument. Stay with that. Be specific. They do not play by any different rules on the field so saying teams shouldn’t play them until they play by the same rules is stupid in that regard.
In fact, I would wager my next bonus check that you would try to take some type of credit if ND scheduled LU. The next two that you wouldn’t be saying what a calamity it it.
ND has earned the right to be treated differently than say Appy St or Toledo off the field. If YOU don’t see that it’s obviously a YOU problem.

So Purple, are you saying that ND is treated as a P5 equivalent.? Since I said I have no idea what the word means - please break it all down for me

[Purple Haize]

I don't need to back any statement up about Notre Dame. Anyone who knows anything about college football, should know the special treatment ND gets. Y'all can play mind games all you want, but you know ND is treated differently than the other FBS schools. NCAA has them on same plateau as a power 5 conference. Their AD is considered a peer to conference commissioners.

The bold part is your argument. Stay with that. Be specific. They do not play by any different rules on the field so saying teams shouldn’t play them until they play by the same rules is stupid in that regard.
In fact, I would wager my next bonus check that you would try to take some type of credit if ND scheduled LU. The next two that you wouldn’t be saying what a calamity it it.
ND has earned the right to be treated differently than say Appy St or Toledo off the field. If YOU don’t see that it’s obviously a YOU problem.

So Purple, are you saying that ND is treated as a P5 equivalent.? Since I said I have no idea what the word means - please break it all down for me

You’re beyond hope. Your grasp on the realities of Football are as askew as fraudcoach. Since you obviously have way more free time than anyone here, compare and contrast the history and pedigree of ND in all sports with that of LU. If you can’t see why they have earned the right to be treated differently that again would be a You problem

[ballcoach15]

I was not referring to rules that are in place when ref blows whistle for kickoff. I was referring to NCAA rules giving special treatment to ND.

Just because Notre Dame "won one for the Gipper" many years ago, should not grant them anything today.

The only way I would like to see LU vs ND game, is to fulfill the dream of Dr. Falwell.

[Purple Haize]

I was not referring to rules that are in place when ref blows whistle for kickoff. I was referring to NCAA rules giving special treatment to ND.

Just because Notre Dame "won one for the Gipper" many years ago, should not grant them anything today.

The only way I would like to see LU vs ND game, is to fulfill the dream of Dr. Falwell.

Look into the History of ND and the service Academies. Look into the USC ND history. Look into the number of national championships ND has. Look at the affect ND had on Sports Broadcasting. The fact that you feel it’s only based on Winning One For The Gipper shows it’s definitely a “You” problem.
I get into discussions all the time with my Indiana friends that on the field ND has been over rated for about a decade. But there’s no argument that it is one of the Top 5 Programs in the country football wise

[TH Spangler]

I was not referring to rules that are in place when ref blows whistle for kickoff. I was referring to NCAA rules giving special treatment to ND.

Just because Notre Dame "won one for the Gipper" many years ago, should not grant them anything today.

The only way I would like to see LU vs ND game, is to fulfill the dream of Dr. Falwell.

Look into the History of ND and the service Academies. Look into the USC ND history. Look into the number of national championships ND has. Look at the affect ND had on Sports Broadcasting. The fact that you feel it’s only based on Winning One For The Gipper shows it’s definitely a “You” problem.
I get into discussions all the time with my Indiana friends that on the field ND has been over rated for about a decade. But there’s no argument that it is one of the Top 5 Programs in the country football wise

Their fan base is enormous. Maybe larger than the other ACC teams combined.

[Purple Haize]

See? You get a big part of it.

[ballcoach15]

I liked ND up until 2001, give or take a year. The crooked BCS Committee picked ND over Virginia Tech for one of the BCS Bowls. I believe VT was ranked higher and had a better record. Since that day I have hated ND, and only pull for them when they play UVA.

[Purple Haize]

I liked ND up until 2001, give or take a year. The crooked BCS Committee picked ND over Virginia Tech for one of the BCS Bowls. I believe VT was ranked higher and had a better record. Since that day I have hated ND, and only pull for them when they play UVA.

See? That’s a moderately defensible position. After Lou Holtz ND had a bunch of shaky hires. Bowl games have a lot to do with viewership and attendance. Every Bowl would love to have ND.

[ballcoach15]

And if my memory is correct, ND got hosed in that bowl by Oregon State, 41-9, or something like that.

[tyndal23]

The bold part is your argument. Stay with that. Be specific. They do not play by any different rules on the field so saying teams shouldn’t play them until they play by the same rules is stupid in that regard.
In fact, I would wager my next bonus check that you would try to take some type of credit if ND scheduled LU. The next two that you wouldn’t be saying what a calamity it it.
ND has earned the right to be treated differently than say Appy St or Toledo off the field. If YOU don’t see that it’s obviously a YOU problem.

So Purple, are you saying that ND is treated as a P5 equivalent.? Since I said I have no idea what the word means - please break it all down for me

You’re beyond hope. Your grasp on the realities of Football are as askew as fraudcoach. Since you obviously have way more free time than anyone here, compare and contrast the history and pedigree of ND in all sports with that of LU. If you can’t see why they have earned the right to be treated differently that again would be a You problem

Right. I do know Army counted as a P5 equivalent for the Big 12 when OU played them - Army certainly isn’t ND. And when I say equivalent, I mean they weren’t required to schedule another P5 game - Big 12 approved Army to count as their P5 game. It is specifically up to each conference and or a waiver by the conference commish on which Independent would count as a P5 equivalent. All conferences approve BYU the same way and obviously ND. My point is rather than building as a G5 ( while not even being eligible for a NY6 game ) and hoping to be invited to a crap G5 conference no one cares about down the line or even the AAC - who are still Stuck as little brother by every football pundit in America - LU should build toward P5 level budget,scheduling and recruiting - even if no conference ever gives their teams a waiver to count us as a P5 equivalent like BYU or ND - it will be enough to recruit at a higher level than any G5, will provide fans with 6-8 P5 games per year against teams that our scattered alumni will actually want to take the trouble to fly to Lynchburg to see. LU can control budget and scheduling - no guaranty ACC ever treats us as a P5 for scheduling purposes BUT it is much better odds than ACC ever inviting LU to be a member and I would wager even better odds than the AAC inviting. And guess what - when we do play a good ND or USC - we will have a program that has the athletes that can actually compete rather than being 24 + point underdogs. LU Football just sent out a tweet last week “ P5 coaches, P5 facilities”. If you think that is enough to fake out P5 recruits - then so be it. I however think getting as close to a P5 schedule as we can is required. Claiming we ( or any G5 ) are currently playing FBS at the “highest level” is technically true - but no one actually believes that - especially recruits.

[ballcoach15]

Whether they will admit it or not, NCAA treats ND as a P5 school, and probably higher. I have never understood how ND athletic director gets a "seat at the table ", whenever there's a big meeting with conference commissioners. Heck, they met with VP Pence recently, ND was there also.
ND should have been forced to join Big 10, years ago.

[thepostman]

They get a seat at the table because of their strong fan base, tv deal money and history. We don't have to like it but that is the reality.

Again, this has nothing to do with the 2020 season.

[thepostman]

College football: Independents like BYU are making ‘contingency plans’ in a conference-games-only scenario

Despite reports to the contrary, BYU officials say they are ‘in the mix’ of discussions to play the likes of Liberty, Army, UMass, UConn, NMSU and perhaps even Notre Dame if the coronavirus pandemic shortens season to only league games for conference-affiliated teams