If roundball is your blood, this is the place to discuss the Flames as they move into the Ritchie McKay era for the 2nd time.

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By Sly Fox
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BTW I'd rather not delete anything on here that was presented in a forthright manner to begin with. If the individuals who originally posted choose to withdraw something on here, that is fine with me. But there is nothing objectionable in my opinion.

I like the idea of us doing what we can to give Coach McKay a clean slate. Hopefully the players do as well.
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By PAmedic
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Sly Fox wrote: I like the idea of us doing what we can to give Coach McKay a clean slate. Hopefully the players do as well.
AMEN to that
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By Fumblerooskies
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OK...
...so maybe no announcement today. However, if he is spotted in town over the weekend, with a TRBC appearance on Sunday, then we all will know something is up. BTW, does wireless work in the new sanctuary?
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By JDUB
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yeah it works.. probably not a good idea to be on FF during church though :shock:
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By Fumblerooskies
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If you were in my class...
...and I spotted you on FF on the TV feed...it would be DOUBLE BONUS POINTS :)
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By flameshaw
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PAmedic wrote:
flameshaw wrote: If this is the guy, why are we waiting until Monday?
b/c no one cares about Friday afternoon announcements

thats why divorces, resignations and terminations are announced then :lol:
I guess I will have to sweat out the rest of the day hoping my wife doesn't plan a divorce without telling me. I would hate to try and find another one. :D
By LUconn
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PAmedic wrote:
flameshaw wrote: If this is the guy, why are we waiting until Monday?
b/c no one cares about Friday afternoon announcements

thats why divorces, resignations and terminations are announced then :lol:

Radford to announce their new HC at 3:30 today :lol: I guess they're hoping he won't notice.
By Knucklehead
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LUconn wrote:
PAmedic wrote:
flameshaw wrote: If this is the guy, why are we waiting until Monday?
b/c no one cares about Friday afternoon announcements

thats why divorces, resignations and terminations are announced then :lol:

Radford to announce their new HC at 3:30 today :lol: I guess they're hoping he won't notice.
Brad Greenburg from Tech!
By olldflame
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Possibly the world's worst-kept secret. He may do a great job but IMHO a mistake to go to another D1 program so close to his brother, and from the looks of things Seth ain't goin nowhere.
By Hold My Own
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no way...it's brilliant...it's going to be a feeder system of sorts....someone not quite ready for the ACC..."he'll say well I do have a brother right down the road"


You thought we had good connections with UVa wait until this thing shakes out
By grm
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jcmanson wrote:I am the same as you guys. If McKay is the guy, I will support him. I trust JB, and his decision making. Whoever he chooses, I will support, and hopefully the high majority of our fans, students, faculty do as well.
I'll happily support the coach. But, what is the basis for such "trust" in JB and his "decision making"? (In other words, I haven't seen it) He may get a good coach out of it, and I hope he does, but in terms of public relations, he has bungled the process beyond belief. When the Mansion has to call the paper to keep JB's statements out of the next day's print, it tells you plenty. When he jokes to the fired staff that had they made it to the final four, "it might have been tough to let him go" (a statement that obviously includes the very people he is addressing) I'd say he is at least insensitive, and probably lacking basic wisdom/judgment.
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By Fumblerooskies
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YAWWWNNNNN....
....give it a rest, grm.
By olldflame
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Obviously it's S.A.D. for you grm (Still About Dunton) :violin
By grm
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YAWWWNNNNN....
I'm not in a resting mood right now.
By grm
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Listen boys - I hope McKay gets hired, I hope he wins the BS, I hope he does well, and I wish him great success.
That's way more than I heard from some about RD - so don't even start on that stuff. The rest of my comments
are dead on and irrefutable, and I see no reason for setting them aside in an open forum where ideas are set
forth for discussion.

Thank you for the exchange of opinions.
By LUconn
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I say as long as you support the coach and the program, you can distrust JB all you want. Is distrust a word?
By thepostman
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grm wrote:Listen boys - I hope McKay gets hired, I hope he wins the BS, I hope he does well, and I wish him great success.
That's way more than I heard from some about RD - so don't even start on that stuff. The rest of my comments
are dead on and irrefutable, and I see no reason for setting them aside in an open forum where ideas are set
forth for discussion.

Thank you for the exchange of opinions.
ok....then what is it that JB doesn't do right in your eyes??? You are trashing on those people that trashed on RD...but then again you question every move JB makes....so what makes you any better then those people???

For the record I always supported RD....I have said this many times on this board...I think he is a solid coach, but maybe not a head coach in the D1 level....there is nothing wrong with that....he could make one heck of a top assistant at many D1 schools around the country...he is a good man, and we all want the best for him...it was time for a change, and I am looking forward to this change....

so please answer my questions above...because I would really like to know your thoughts
By grm
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Yes, it is a word. And I do support the program, and am pulling for a great season. I still believe what the man with the greatest combination of objectivity & knowledge said, namely that we are in position to compete for the BS title -
and that statement was made irrespective of the coach-to-be-named.
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By BJWilliams
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Sly Fox wrote:That's an excused absence even though we lost. :)
Thanks...I made sure to call my RA and clear it with him so I wouldn't get reps for being absent.
By LUconn
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hey DJBJ, I heard you on the radio during lunch. That is all.
By grm
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I've got to get busy on some other things here, and I will answer anything and everything according to propriety
when I can. For now, what I said about JB was specific, and really beyond hearsay. Other things would be hearsay, and would not really be appropriate. What they involved were negative comments about RD and the way RD ran the program, which I feel were untrue. I cannot answer why they were said (if they indeed were said). They were not anything criminal or anything of the kind, and I would not want to be guilty of casting any such aspersions whatsoever.

So forget all that - I'm just saying that he bungled the PR during the process. I Believe if I had been making the change, I would have complimented RD but said that I simply felt it was time for a change. No muss, no fuss, no backlash over my statements. Of course, that's hypothetical. We can't know exactly what anyone, including me, would do in a certain situation. He told Randy at 10:30 that everything would be handled professionally, and nothing would be done until the press conference at 3:00 p.m. By sometime around 2:00, Chris Lang had an article on the net about the dismissal/failure to renew, with the quote in there about "even if he had won the BS, it wouldn't have been enough." (Paraphrase, but with the essence). In my opinion, didn't need to be done, didn't need to be said, violates what RD said he said.

It not a big deal, I guess, but I'm just not signing on to JB.

Go Flames - Go McKay
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By TallyW
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Chris has already established that JB answered "no" to a question that HE (CHRIS) put forward. That isn't the same as him going to the paper making comments. As for what anyone says among staff they trust I don't think any of us have stones to throw... in any leadership position you have a circle of people you trust and you are more relaxed... The fact is that was in humor in private... it wasn't ever an attack on RD or in a situation under which I'd say he was unprofessional... if anything I like the fact he can be honest and feels relaxed enough to give his real vibe to people around him... He's no Saint... but lets not demonize him either. We wish RD well and I'm sure we'll see success from him in the future.
By LUconn
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grm wrote: By sometime around 2:00, Chris Lang had an article on the net about the dismissal/failure to renew, with the quote in there about "even if he had won the BS, it wouldn't have been enough." (Paraphrase, but with the essence). In my opinion, didn't need to be done, didn't need to be said, violates what RD said he said.
Lang asked him that question specifically. I guess he could have said "no comment", but it's not like he just blurted it out to slap RD in the face.
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By flameshaw
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Knucklehead wrote:
LUconn wrote:
PAmedic wrote: b/c no one cares about Friday afternoon announcements

thats why divorces, resignations and terminations are announced then :lol:

Radford to announce their new HC at 3:30 today :lol: I guess they're hoping he won't notice.
Brad Greenburg from Tech!
I hope whoever we get is more charasmatic than Brad. I just listened to the last part of the news conference, and he was not real impressive from a personality perspective. I did like the little pom pom shake at the end from the blond. Is she the president of the university or AD or something?
By grm
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It's time for me to invoke the modern-semi-proverbial "WHATEVER." You guys can like him, and, for the good of the program it's probably best that you do. Of course, it goes without saying how I feel, and in these circles, for the most part, I can leave it that way... with a little "wiggle room" for the honest exchange of opinion in the open forum.
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