[blwall1416]

You don't buy a water bottle with a hidden compartment just because it looks cool.

Sure you do....Then you fill it with Liberty Mountain Spring water.

[Rocketfan]

I hope he goes to jail.

The thing that bugs me is everyone says this is his first offense. It's his first offense he's been charged with. Look at the other stuff he's done:

a) Ron Mexico
b) Flipping off the fans
c) The water bottle

You don't buy a water bottle with a hidden compartment just because it looks cool.

I won't admit this often, but your point is excellent.

[Knucklehead]

Sorry if I've ruffled feathers. I will agree to disagree with you Smoothie.
SJ said it just like it is. He has a body of work that proves his issues are not new!
Let's not forget the joint picture either!

[01LUGrad]

I can't take credit for this, but I thought it was pretty funny. I'm sorry if it implies that he is guilty. I'll try to find a song about him being innocent.


A little ditty, bout Vick and the Feds…..
Two Americans…..Gettin’ ready to Butt Heads!

Vick was going to be a FOOTBALL STAR!
To bad he’s been killin’ dogs with the back of his car!

Them there Feds been building up a case.
Sayin’ ‘ol Vicks house has been the kennells where the carnage takes place.
Vicks got friends sayin’ what’s with all the fuss!
What goes on in that backwoods house ain’t nobodies biznusss!

Say ya….Ron Mexico’s life is GONE….
Long after the thrill when his career is gone……
Say ya….Ron Mexico’s life is GONE….
Long after the thrill when his career is gone……

‘Ol Vick sits back, collects his thoughts for a moment
Scratches his head and tries his best Houdini
Well then there, we ought to run to Mexico…..
Feds come back with an indictment sayin’ I don’t think so……

OH yeah….Ron Mexico’s life is GONE….
Long after the thrill when his career is gone……
OH yeah….Ron Mexico’s life is GONE….
Long after the thrill when his career is gone……

Gonna let it rock……let it roll
His little brothers, as much as a fool
He tried to step on the throat of a player
Made his chances of the big leagues, a hope and a prayer!

OH yeah….Ron Mexico’s life is GONE….
Long after the thrill when his career is gone……
OH yeah….Ron Mexico’s life is GONE….
Long after the thrill when his career is gone……

Little ditty bout, Vick and the Feds
Hoping Vick starts likin’ life bein’ someone’s girl friend!

[Knucklehead]

Priceless

[Knucklehead]

Wonder if they serve these in Prison?

[ATrain]

I can't take credit for this, but I thought it was pretty funny. I'm sorry if it implies that he is guilty. I'll try to find a song about him being innocent.


A little ditty, bout Vick and the Feds…..
Two Americans…..Gettin’ ready to Butt Heads!

Vick was going to be a FOOTBALL STAR!
To bad he’s been killin’ dogs with the back of his car!

Them there Feds been building up a case.
Sayin’ ‘ol Vicks house has been the kennells where the carnage takes place.
Vicks got friends sayin’ what’s with all the fuss!
What goes on in that backwoods house ain’t nobodies biznusss!

Say ya….Ron Mexico’s life is GONE….
Long after the thrill when his career is gone……
Say ya….Ron Mexico’s life is GONE….
Long after the thrill when his career is gone……

‘Ol Vick sits back, collects his thoughts for a moment
Scratches his head and tries his best Houdini
Well then there, we ought to run to Mexico…..
Feds come back with an indictment sayin’ I don’t think so……

OH yeah….Ron Mexico’s life is GONE….
Long after the thrill when his career is gone……
OH yeah….Ron Mexico’s life is GONE….
Long after the thrill when his career is gone……

Gonna let it rock……let it roll
His little brothers, as much as a fool
He tried to step on the throat of a player
Made his chances of the big leagues, a hope and a prayer!

OH yeah….Ron Mexico’s life is GONE….
Long after the thrill when his career is gone……
OH yeah….Ron Mexico’s life is GONE….
Long after the thrill when his career is gone……

Little ditty bout, Vick and the Feds
Hoping Vick starts likin’ life bein’ someone’s girl friend!

[RubberMallet]

last time i checked....indictment didn't mean conviction....

[Innocent Bystander]

OK 01, I'll concede that that is funny.

And I was not trying to censor your free speech by denying you the right to your opinion. In fact, if he is indeed guilty (which, again, I am almost certain that he is) then he needs to go away for a long long time.

I think we can at least agree on that.

[ATrain]

last time i checked....indictment didn't mean conviction....

Neither does stacked evidence, i.e. OJ Simpson

For the record, I think Vick is guilty

[Knucklehead]

Great Article from NFL.COM That says exactly how I feel. Except I never thought he was that good.

(July 18, 2007) -- I never expected the Michael Vick saga would have a happy ending.

I realize it is far from over, that an indictment is not the same as a conviction, and that Vick is entitled to his day in court. But this story, which was disconcerting enough when it surfaced in April, has taken a turn that can only evoke feelings of sadness.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/10260774

[RubberMallet]

i think hes guilty of knowing and probably allowing it to happen on his property....we had pitbull fighting problems in our area and after talkign to a few cops taht go to our church regarding it they said that in this case and in most cases the person/persons running it are some fo the most vile and evil people they've ever come accross...worst of the worst...

i just can't see vick being that person....of course he's not squeaky clean either but they were talking about hardened criminals here...

i think this may be more of a squeeze play to get him to talk...

who knows...

i've had to put down 2 dogs before in my life and it was really hard for me....i can't fathom some of the ways these dogs have been killed...appalled and amazed all at the same time....

[TDDance234]

Greg Roberts of the local ESPN affiliate here in Lynchburg has said the same things. While he wasn't declaring Vick clear of the charges, he said that he was one of the nicest guys he knew and that he was the type people took advantage of. Of course, Greg has been wrong a million other times.

[El Scorcho]

Last I heard, the Feds place him at more than one of the fights. If that turns out to be the case, he can't play the "I just let it happen." card.

I agree with letting the legal system do it's work, and until then he's innocent by the definition of the law. There's really no other choice but some kind of mob mentality vigilante justice. However, I don't think there's any arguing that this man has place himself around the kind of people and situations to make his true character obvious. Being innocent by rule of law and having your true character on display are not the same thing.

In summary: He's an innocent man who seems to have a criminal's mind. At the very least he enjoys spending his time with people that have that mentality, and is therefore subject to the same judgements that are placed on those people.

[4everfsu]

Whether he is guilty or innocent in the court system, he is guilty in the public court of opinion. Like he didn't know what was going on, give me a break! He thought all the dogs were being taken for a daily stroll

[RubberMallet]

Last I heard, the Feds place him at more than one of the fights. If that turns out to be the case, he can't play the "I just let it happen." card.

I agree with letting the legal system do it's work, and until then he's innocent by the definition of the law. There's really no other choice but some kind of mob mentality vigilante justice. However, I don't think there's any arguing that this man has place himself around the kind of people and situations to make his true character obvious. Being innocent by rule of law and having your true character on display are not the same thing.

In summary: He's an innocent man who seems to have a criminal's mind. At the very least he enjoys spending his time with people that have that mentality, and is therefore subject to the same judgements that are placed on those people.

yeah hes made some terrible decisions in terms of who to hang around thats for sure...

kruk was on espn radio talking about the guys he let live in his house and they turned out to have robbed 14 banks while living there and he had no idea....so i bet it COULD happen i guess but frigging dog kennels and crap?...i think i'd notice that....

[RagingTireFire]

This means nothing for Vick and his NFL career is far from over. He'll end up pleading to a lesser charge, get probation and and pay a fine. The NFL will slap him with their own fine and a few community service hours filming ads with Bob Barker for the ASPCA and that'll be that.
The NFL is still a business and Vick is the face of a large-market franchise. Unlike Pacman or Tank Johnson, Vick on the field puts Levis in the seats. Guilty or not the league, along with Nike, has way too much invested in this guy to hang him out to dry.

[TIMSCAR20]

This means nothing for Vick and his NFL career is far from over. He'll end up pleading to a lesser charge, get probation and and pay a fine. The NFL will slap him with their own fine and a few community service hours filming ads with Bob Barker for the ASPCA and that'll be that.
The NFL is still a business and Vick is the face of a large-market franchise. Unlike Pacman or Tank Johnson, Vick on the field puts Levis in the seats. Guilty or not the league, along with Nike, has way too much invested in this guy to hang him out to dry.

Levi's? I have to disagree with you on one point though. Vick is NOT the FACE of the NFL. That is what makes the NFL special. There is no FACE of the NFL. Guys like Ray Lewis, Donovan McNabb, Terrell Owens, Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, and many many others make up the league and they do a great job of marketing the league and the teams. The NFL does not need Vick like the NBA did Jordan or Hockey needed Gretsky. The NFL won't even know he is not playing on Sundays. The beat goes on. I agree he is more valuable to advertisers than Tank or Pacman but those same advertisers will find their next spokesman to be just as effective in a week. There are plenty of subplots and story lines in the NFL. That is why it is the best thing going in all of Sports. Their TV coverage, their highlights, the playoff system and their winner take all Championship game make it different than all the other sports.

[JDUB]

i can't stand either of the Vicks, but i agree with RTF. he'll get out of it and be playing again soon. thats how athletes are treated in America. no matter what they do, it can be fixed with a fine and community service.
personally, i think he should be in jail a really long time IF he really did do it, which i think he did. but thats not for me to decide.
but anyway, he'll get out of it and probably won't even see a jail even if he's convicted

[4everfsu]

He is damaged goods to advertisers, so Nike will probably drop him soon.

[Sly Fox]

Nike announced today that they still intend to market his signature shoe next month. Nike realizes this actually builds street cred toward a segment of the market.

[RagingTireFire]

Maybe you sliced off an ear the last you shaved your head, Scar. I didn't say that Vick was the face of the NFL. I said he was the face of a large-market franchise, namely the Falcons. They've built their entire organization around this guy, both roster and promotional. You think they're going to suddenly re-vamp that into trying to sell Joey Harrington? No way does that happen.

Trust me. He's going to come out of this deal no worse than Ray Lewis did.

[01LUGrad]

Ray Lewis=Very good point RTF.

[TIMSCAR20]

Ray Lewis=Very good point RTF.

The worst part about Lewis' deal is that a human being was killed. Many believe Ray was a big factor in that murder and some believe he actually did it. What a shame. RTF, sorry about misquoting you and I assure you I didn't Van Goeh myselft

[Knucklehead]

You think they're going to suddenly re-vamp that into trying to sell Joey Harrington?

Great now you hurt his feelings!