[grm]

For what it's worth, RD speaks very highly of Anthony.

[TDDance234]

Speaking of RD, has he drawn any interest from any programs?

[PAmedic]

For what it's worth, RD speaks very highly of Anthony.

I'll back you up on that.

He was very proud of him as a recruit

[SuperJon]

Wow! That is very harsh. I can't believe that, especially this early after he was let go.

It's the way they felt all season. They didn't like playing for him.

I'm more confident players won't leave now than I would've been had he stayed.

[Knucklehead]

Speaking of RD, has he drawn any interest from any programs?

IMHO, he'd be a great assistant for just about any program!

[kel varson]

Wow! That is very harsh. I can't believe that, especially this early after he was let go.

It's the way they felt all season. They didn't like playing for him.

I'm more confident players won't leave now than I would've been had he stayed.

Is it possible Barber or other insiders talked to the players and gauged their opinions before RD was let go? It almost sounds that way. Then again, I'm probably reading to much into this.

[flameshaw]

I am confident that many people were consulted including former sports administration personnel. But I also believe JB made the ultimate decision as he should have, with proper approvals.

[WinthropEagleFan]

I'm not so sure that "Greg Who" will be doing any cartwheels soon if he fails to capiltalize on his accomplishments and land a better job, and ends up returning to his Martin-less and Bradshaw-less Eagles.

The cupboard is far from bare at WU. Yes, Martin and Bradshaw won't be easy to replace, but there's still alot of talent there, and it isn't like Marshall couldn't win before they got there...

[paradox]

The point was that WU didn't win on the national level until Martin and Bradshaw. Sure, they could win and even dominate a very weak conference prior to their arrival. Now, WU is without Martin/Bradshaw and LU has taken a major step up with a coaching staff that promises to be as good as WU's at the very least. He may turn into "Greg Who" afterall.

[Realist]

The point was that WU didn't win on the national level until Martin and Bradshaw. Sure, they could win and even dominate a very weak conference prior to their arrival. Now, WU is without Martin/Bradshaw and LU has taken a major step up with a coaching staff that promises to be as good as WU's at the very least. He may turn into "Greg Who" afterall.

Didn't win on a national level? Don't tell that to the many BCS conference teams he beat without Bradshaw, Martin or any of the current players.

The coaching staff you have in place is the garbage thrown out from other schools. They may work out, they may not, but "promising" isn't "delivering." Marshall has a good delivery.

[Bronx Bombers]

For what it's worth, RD speaks very highly of Anthony.

I'll back you up on that.

He was very proud of him as a recruit

except you can credit Stephon Leary with bringing Anthony to LU

[SuperJon]

The coaching staff you have in place is the garbage thrown out from other schools.

That's just dumb. The guy was fired because the fans at New Mexico think their program is a lot better than it really is. That's garbage?

[Realist]

The coaching staff you have in place is the garbage thrown out from other schools.

That's just dumb. The guy was fired because the fans at New Mexico think their program is a lot better than it really is. That's garbage?

Garbage may have been a little strong, however, the guy was fired. He didn't exactly set the world on fire at any of his stops. That doesn't mean he can't be successful, it just means I wouldn't exactly put him anywhere close to the level of Marshall.

I find it funny that many are posting Bradshaw and Martin are gone, blah, blah. The same thing was said after Waterman and Groves were gone, the same thing said after Lewis and Wooten were gone. Heck, the same thing was said this year after Shuler and Daniels graduated. Marshall always reloads.

[SuperJon]

I've told everyone Winthrop is going to be better than we think (just like CCU will be in football) simply because of the coach and the way he recruits.

McKay may not have the record that Marshall does, but he's finally at a place where he's 100% comfortable. He doesn't have to "hide" his faith and can openly talk about it and use it to his advantage. It's a perfect fit for him. I think he'll do exponentially better here than he did at his other stops.

[Sly Fox]

The McKay-GM debate is apples & oranges. Competing in major conferences & the Big South is night & day. Lets what on the results this next season.

"garbage thrown out from other schools"? Come on, Realist. I know it was hyperbole but really.

[thepostman]

This thread has gotten out of control....I mean Marshal is a good coach but who knows how he would do anywhere else....McKay is a good coach that has been out of his element and all the places he has been and has had marginal success on a level Marshal has yet to experience...I am not saying McKay is the better coach, but there is no way in telling when the man has yet to even coach one game at liberty...our staff is far from "garbage" as Realist so eloquently stated....Marshal is a solid coach and I am actually glad he is staying at WU for another year at least...I can not stand the man, but he is very good for the big south....very good

[Hold My Own]

Garbage may have been a little strong, however, the guy was fired. He didn't exactly set the world on fire at any of his stops. That doesn't mean he can't be successful, it just means I wouldn't exactly put him anywhere close to the level of Marshall.

OK so when Marshall takes a TRUE mid major program or even a major and fails....he's now garbage?

[paradox]

Truth is that prior to the arrival of Martin and Bradshaw, Winthrop won several conference championships in a very weak conference. Consequently, they were regularly blown-out in the NCAA's and even lost the lowly play-in game one year. Players like Bradshaw and Martin don't frequent the Big South very often. I think that it's safe to assume that WU's best days are behind them now.

With the dawning of the McKay era, I think that it is safe to assume that LU's best days are just begining. And if Marshall reamins at WU, it will only help to strengthen the conference, which will benefit LU in the postseason.

[paradox]

Garbage may have been a little strong, however, the guy was fired. He didn't exactly set the world on fire at any of his stops. That doesn't mean he can't be successful, it just means I wouldn't exactly put him anywhere close to the level of Marshall.

OK so when Marshall takes a TRUE mid major program or even a major and fails....he's now garbage?

Apparently, he's not even up to the challenge. Why did he pass on South Florida? He seems to be establishing a reputation for turning down better job offers. It's possible that some programs are turned off by his inertia about leaving Winthrop. It's puzzling to say the least.

[Hold My Own]

Agreed....I'm not saying they will suck now, and I hope nobody else is either. I'm simply saying that they will not rule the BS like they once did....and dont look for them to hold the title of the Gonzaga of the East for long (if they even held it at one time, I personally dont think they took it from GM's run last year)

[Fumblerooskies]

Why would he NOT pass on S. Florida...
...the southern schools in the Big East (Miami and VT) never did well in basketball...my theory is the southern guys did not want to play in a conference where family and friends would not get to travel...so they lost out on some good recruits. I don't see USF ever doing anything in the Big East other than being bottom feeders.

[paradox]

Perhaps it was the WU fans who labeled themselves the Gonzaga of the east. With only one NCAA win, they may be closer to the Santa Clara of the east, minus the Steve Nash era of course. I'd say that the closest thing to Gonzaga on the east coast would be whoever happens to win the CAA on any given year---VCU this year, Mason last year...ect

[paradox]

Why would he NOT pass on S. Florida...
...the southern schools in the Big East (Miami and VT) never did well in basketball...my theory is the southern guys did not want to play in a conference where family and friends would not get to travel...so they lost out on some good recruits. I don't see USF ever doing anything in the Big East other than being bottom feeders.

There is a ton of basketball talent in the deep south and kids from the northeast don't mind going to school down in Florida. The USF program is up and coming. The USF administration is committed to winning in both football and basketball and this would have been a great opportunity for Marshall. Unless he somehow emerges as a canidate for the Arkansas job, which is highly doubtful, then Marshall made a huge career mistake. He will never be hotter than he is right now. And don't be surprised if Marshall is being labled by some AD's after turning down nearly one million dollars a year to coach in the Big East. Ironically enough, South Florida's big win this year was against a ranked Notre Dame team, which also happens to be the biggest feather in Greg Marshall's cap.

Oddly enough, South Florida actually ended up with a much better coach after Heath was let go at Arkansas.

Stan Heath jumped right on the opportunity to coach at South Florida and his resume far surpasses Marshall's. There are many who feel that Heath will have USF in postseason contention in the not too distant future.

[jimflamesfan]

Why would Marshall want to leave? He's turned Winthrop into a regular tourny team. They might not be at the level of Gonzaga...but they make the tournament almost every year.

I hope Marshall stays. I'm glad Carey Green stayed with LU's women's team! The more better coaches that stay, the better our conference gets.

Coastal still has Buz Peterson, right? And I think VMI's new coach (Dugar or something like that) is making their team interesting. Who wouldn't of thought they'd be a 3 away from winning the Big South tournament?

I'd rather McKay (hopefully) win against a Marshall led Winthrop, than a Winthrop with a new coach.

[paradox]

With where we're at now, with McKay, we're much better off with Marshall staying at Winthrop. The conference will be much stronger with him there, which should benefit us. I'm not so sure that staying was the best deal for Marshall though, career-wise.