[Purple Haize]

The person who is emotionally or personally attached to this coach is taking my view personally. He can’t handle the truth and results in a dishonest point of view.

I’m not taking your pov personally at all. I’m not emotionally or personally attached to AS. You just don’t seem to grasp someone else’s opinion that differs from you could be valid.
They teach this in Upward Coaching manuals I think (still hoping I can latch on to a team)
Assistant Coaches make suggestions
Head Coaches make decisions
That’s a tremendous difference. AS is going from the Suggestion role to the Decision role. In every aspect

[ECC29]

Again, the assistant coach sees the players, initiate the contact with players he recommends tot he head coach. He has great responsibility of the players they brought in. Are you suggesting that the head coach was responsible for the poor players they have now? Is this really your view?

[ECC29]

The person who is emotionally or personally attached to this coach is taking my view personally. He can’t handle the truth and results in a dishonest point of view.

I’m not taking your pov personally at all. I’m not emotionally or personally attached to AS. You just don’t seem to grasp someone else’s opinion that differs from you could be valid.
They teach this in Upward Coaching manuals I think (still hoping I can latch on to a team)
Assistant Coaches make suggestions
Head Coaches make decisions
That’s a tremendous difference. AS is going from the Suggestion role to the Decision role. In every aspect

I have been making my own personal opinion in various areas of the athletic programs. It is you that chimes in and cut down my opinions. I have my own perspective and my perspective points out the facts. It is you that are turning the facts around because you really cannot handle the truth.

[Purple Haize]

The person who is emotionally or personally attached to this coach is taking my view personally. He can’t handle the truth and results in a dishonest point of view.

I’m not taking your pov personally at all. I’m not emotionally or personally attached to AS. You just don’t seem to grasp someone else’s opinion that differs from you could be valid.
They teach this in Upward Coaching manuals I think (still hoping I can latch on to a team)
Assistant Coaches make suggestions
Head Coaches make decisions
That’s a tremendous difference. AS is going from the Suggestion role to the Decision role. In every aspect

I have been making my own personal opinion in various areas of the athletic programs. It is you that chimes in and cut down my opinions. I have my own perspective and my perspective points out the facts. It is you that are turning the facts around because you really cannot handle the truth.

You think the Assistant Coach decides who to sign and not sign. Not sure how that is a Fact. But you do you
I simplified it for you. Assistant Coaches make Suggestions. Head Coaches make decisions. That is 100% true in recruiting. An Assistant can go after a player. Do everything they can to get a signature. But if the coach doesn’t want to offer than there isn’t much they can do. I know HCCG did ALOT of recruiting himself because he looked for a particular type of player
Again, I don’t know how good of a HC AS will be. I like some of the things I’ve seen on the floor. I like what I have seen on the bench. I have no illusions that this is an NCAA Tournament team. I’m also under no illusions that he recruited every player on the roster. I’m not sure he will get an opportunity to put his stamp on a Team here at LU but. I know I have not seen any big red flags so far that he would not do a good job

[ECC29]

I will simplify it for you. The assistant coach recruits and brings the players to the table for the head coach to choose. The assistant coach still has a great impact with the players he brings the team. The head coach is limited to the players the assistant coach brings to the table. It is the assistant coach that initially determines the players he believes can play for the team. If he chooses for example 7 players, then he believes those 7 players can play for the team. The head coach is only limited to the 7 players he chooses to sign because the assistant coach or the head of recruiting brings those players to him. I don’t understood you can twist the facts. As I said, you are dishonest with your narratives.

[ECC29]

Then, the head coach may sign 4 out of the 7 players presented to him. It is still on that assistant coach.

[Purple Haize]

Im not sure thats how they do it in Upwards. They lll have to check the manual
You act as though the HC has limited power in recruiting and that simply isnt the case. Some coaches exert a lot of control in who they bring in. They decide who to sign and who not to. Their system determines the style and type of players the AC’s recruit. AC’s present players, absolutely never said they didnt. But the HC sets the tone and makes the decision. Some head coaches also are a lot more involved in recruiting than others. That has been the case at LU for 20 years or so. The AC needs to convince the HC that any player the want fits the HC system. Granted ive never coached in CUSA but i have stayed at a Holiday In. Once or twice and seen videos.

[ECC29]

I don’t act like that HC has no active role. But you cannot take away the responsibility from this coach because it would have to him that initially sees the players and makes the decisions to bring that player to the table for the HC to make a decision. He absolutely have a lot of decisions with the player being recruited. Are you saying that it was Green’s sole responsibility for the players they have now?

[Purple Haize]

I’m saying a HC makes the final decision. I’m say CG was very involved in recruiting and was the sole contact for many players on the roster. Several players were ones he identified and he wanted and he pursued because they fit his style.

[thecomeback]

I don’t act like that HC has no active role. But you cannot take away the responsibility from this coach because it would have to him that initially sees the players and makes the decisions to bring that player to the table for the HC to make a decision. He absolutely have a lot of decisions with the player being recruited. Are you saying that it was Green’s sole responsibility for the players they have now?

Would you be able to admit that your own personal bias may be clouding your judgment on this one? I've followed this forum for years and have found a lot of the loyal members are pretty plugged into what is going on. And from what I saw, CG, was extremely hands on with the recruiting.

You haven't wanted to give AS a chance since he got the job so it's nearly impossible to put any value in your opinion on this.

[ECC29]

First, I have no personal bias. There is no one to be bias to. Other people wanted to argue that the current head coach who was I charge of recruiting during Green’s tenure had no had no responsibility for the players he has now. That is an ignorant viewpoint.
I watched this head coach this year so far, and he showed a lot of poor decisions during game time. I have a difficult time trusting his coaching ability.
With your virwpoint, are you saying Green was solely responsible for the players now? I asked this question to Purple Haize and he refused to answer this question.

[Purple Haize]

Every Staff does things differently. HCCG was VERY hands on and involved with recruiting. He wanted certain types of players That should be apparent to anyone observing. Thats neither a good or bad thing. He was pretty successful doing it that way. AS is a different coach looking for different types players. He was able to bring some of them in suring his tenure but at the end of the day he wasn’t the one making decisions.
I have seen a lot of positive signs from AS. Enough to remove the Interim label? I dunno. I sense more is at play here behind the scenes

[Purple Haize]

First, I have no personal bias. There is no one to be bias to. Other people wanted to argue that the current head coach who was I charge of recruiting during Green’s tenure had no had no responsibility for the players he has now. That is an ignorant viewpoint.
I watched this head coach this year so far, and he showed a lot of poor decisions during game time. I have a difficult time trusting his coaching ability.
With your virwpoint, are you saying Green was solely responsible for the players now? I asked this question to Purple Haize and he refused to answer this question.

No. I answered your question you just didn’t like the answer. So again…
The HC makes the final decision on any recruit. The HC makes the final decision on the types of players they want to bring in. Some head coaches are pretty hands off in recruiting. Coach Green was VERY hands on. The bulk of the players on this years roster were the prototypical players Coach Green looked for. There are a few who are not. For all intents and purposes this is a Cary Green roster.

[Baybird]

First, I have no personal bias. There is no one to be bias to. Other people wanted to argue that the current head coach who was I charge of recruiting during Green’s tenure had no had no responsibility for the players he has now. That is an ignorant viewpoint.
I watched this head coach this year so far, and he showed a lot of poor decisions during game time. I have a difficult time trusting his coaching ability.
With your virwpoint, are you saying Green was solely responsible for the players now? I asked this question to Purple Haize and he refused to answer this question.

No. I answered your question you just didn’t like the answer. So again…
The HC makes the final decision on any recruit. The HC makes the final decision on the types of players they want to bring in. Some head coaches are pretty hands off in recruiting. Coach Green was VERY hands on. The bulk of the players on this years roster were the prototypical players Coach Green looked for. There are a few who are not. For all intents and purposes this is a Cary Green roster.

It's not like you really knew how recruiting went with CG...if you had family members that played for him, then...wait, you did! Never mind!!!

[Purple Haize]

First, I have no personal bias. There is no one to be bias to. Other people wanted to argue that the current head coach who was I charge of recruiting during Green’s tenure had no had no responsibility for the players he has now. That is an ignorant viewpoint.
I watched this head coach this year so far, and he showed a lot of poor decisions during game time. I have a difficult time trusting his coaching ability.
With your virwpoint, are you saying Green was solely responsible for the players now? I asked this question to Purple Haize and he refused to answer this question.

No. I answered your question you just didn’t like the answer. So again…
The HC makes the final decision on any recruit. The HC makes the final decision on the types of players they want to bring in. Some head coaches are pretty hands off in recruiting. Coach Green was VERY hands on. The bulk of the players on this years roster were the prototypical players Coach Green looked for. There are a few who are not. For all intents and purposes this is a Cary Green roster.

It's not like you really knew how recruiting went with CG...if you had family members that played for him, then...wait, you did! Never mind!!!

Ha. Thank you for the compliment. Actually didn’t have any family members that played for him. But I do have long time connections with the program and every coach they’ve had.