- October 3rd, 2024, 7:43 pm
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I could see AAC inviting Marshall, but I can't see what ODU has to offer any conference.
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ballcoach15 wrote: ↑October 3rd, 2024, 7:43 pm I could see AAC inviting Marshall, but I can't see what ODU has to offer any conference.They clearly bring the Hampton Roads TV market & a decent recruiting ground. But also remember that they were the biggest complainers of CUSA travel before they left.
LUOrange wrote: ↑October 3rd, 2024, 9:43 pmAAC money will likely offset whatever travel concerns they have. Plus they may end up traveling less in the AAC than in the Sunbelt, especially the Olympic sports. Add to that the fact that basketball has, historically, been their strongest sport, and the AAC will definitely be an upgrade over the Sunbelt in that regard.ballcoach15 wrote: ↑October 3rd, 2024, 7:43 pm I could see AAC inviting Marshall, but I can't see what ODU has to offer any conference.They clearly bring the Hampton Roads TV market & a decent recruiting ground. But also remember that they were the biggest complainers of CUSA travel before they left.
PAmedic wrote:you're absolutely right
aj7 wrote: ↑October 4th, 2024, 9:44 am but it might be wise since NMSU, SHST, Liberty, and WKU are attractive to other conferences.Three of those are attractive to other conferences…one of them is not.
Sly Fox wrote: ↑October 4th, 2024, 8:49 pm Let the record show that there are no attractive FCS options. Period. There is also a barrier of entry in place that makes its cost prohibitive for most FCS programs to move up ... including the Dakota & Montana schools.Me and you have very different definitions of the boonies. Only an hour outside of one of the biggest metropolitan areas in the country might as well be the suburbs to me. It's only about 10 miles farther from Fort Worth than SHSU is from Houston and it's growing rapidly.
Let me shout this from the rooftops, Tarleton State is not a viable option. They are in the boonies and have no name recognition here in Texas. It is the school where kids who can't get in the many other major universities go as a deep fall-back. And did I mention they are nowhere close to any other CUSA school? Yes, they are in Texas. But as far as the population of the state is concerned, they may as well be in a random Oklahoma town.
ODU is cash constrained and would likely find keeping up with the Joneses in the AAC very difficult. The 757 is a more attractive market than the one LU finds itself. But let's not kid ourselves that Tidewater is on par with Atlanta. Could they wind up in the AAC? Absolutely. But I don't see it as likely.
As for Proto's suggestions of mergers, there are strong reasons why that is not likely to occur even if it makes the most sense. Auto bids to conference champions get eliminated. Tourney money is much more likely to come to schools when they dont have additional schools to battle to get the bids. And the greater the number of schools, the more the pie gets carved up. While it is true that the networks have begin to prize inventory in order to be able to push out more content. But lower tier G6s don't have the cachet to pull more revenue from the networks. Any mergers today would have to occur out of desperation to avoid folding a league.
In summary, we are staying right where we are unless circumstances somehow change enough where we might be invited to a league like the AAC or Pac to round off numbers. That is unlikely but not impossible.
Ill flame wrote: ↑October 4th, 2024, 11:36 pmYou'll have to forgive Sly. He has a very Houston-centric view and seems to think it speaks for all Texans. A town with a population of over 20,000 an hour away from a major metro is hardly the boonies.Sly Fox wrote: ↑October 4th, 2024, 8:49 pm Let the record show that there are no attractive FCS options. Period. There is also a barrier of entry in place that makes its cost prohibitive for most FCS programs to move up ... including the Dakota & Montana schools.Me and you have very different definitions of the boonies. Only an hour outside of one of the biggest metropolitan areas in the country might as well be the suburbs to me. It's only about 10 miles farther from Fort Worth than SHSU is from Houston and it's growing rapidly.
Let me shout this from the rooftops, Tarleton State is not a viable option. They are in the boonies and have no name recognition here in Texas. It is the school where kids who can't get in the many other major universities go as a deep fall-back. And did I mention they are nowhere close to any other CUSA school? Yes, they are in Texas. But as far as the population of the state is concerned, they may as well be in a random Oklahoma town.
ODU is cash constrained and would likely find keeping up with the Joneses in the AAC very difficult. The 757 is a more attractive market than the one LU finds itself. But let's not kid ourselves that Tidewater is on par with Atlanta. Could they wind up in the AAC? Absolutely. But I don't see it as likely.
As for Proto's suggestions of mergers, there are strong reasons why that is not likely to occur even if it makes the most sense. Auto bids to conference champions get eliminated. Tourney money is much more likely to come to schools when they dont have additional schools to battle to get the bids. And the greater the number of schools, the more the pie gets carved up. While it is true that the networks have begin to prize inventory in order to be able to push out more content. But lower tier G6s don't have the cachet to pull more revenue from the networks. Any mergers today would have to occur out of desperation to avoid folding a league.
In summary, we are staying right where we are unless circumstances somehow change enough where we might be invited to a league like the AAC or Pac to round off numbers. That is unlikely but not impossible.
PAmedic wrote:you're absolutely right
PAmedic wrote:you're absolutely right
Liberty22 wrote: ↑October 8th, 2024, 10:21 am https://sports.yahoo.com/while-sec-and- ... 31534.htmlI agree. I am reminded of 1 Timothy 6:10, "the love of money is the root of all evil". College sports should be about getting an education, playing the game, and trying to win a championship. It's time for Congress and/or Supreme Court to intervene over these money hungry hogs (conference commissioners), and restore sanity to college sports. Once the money hogs take over college sports, high schools and youth leagues are next. ( already there in some places).
This is ridiculous….
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jimflamesfan wrote: ↑October 9th, 2024, 1:30 amIt also has louisana Monroe twice and two schools that are no longer a member of the conference. I'm curious where it pulled its data from.
Look at the 11th team. It's interesting that Meta AI says Liberty is already in the Sunbelt.
cruzan_flame13 wrote: ↑October 8th, 2024, 4:58 pmCongressATrain wrote: ↑October 8th, 2024, 3:33 pm Congress and SCOTUS have FAR more important things to be concerned with than college sports.What is the opposite of progress?....
PAmedic wrote:you're absolutely right