[prototype]

One thing we'll never know is if App State would have insisted on playing the game if they were undefeated, on a roll, and Liberty was ranked just above them in the rankings.

You obviously haven’t seen pictures out of Boone.

Purple. You are taking this thing to a whole other level... I have friends in Boone, and even they are even saying it's being overblown there. Check the livecams - things are pretty close to back to normal there. It was a lot of rain... It basically went away in 24 hours. You are making it out as if the town was destroyed and it's going to take years to recover. Over 3/4 the businesses on their main tourist street were open today.

They ducked playing us.... They had options and they aren't taking them. Period. End of story... We are a Christian school - yes, but we are also playing FBS football - and I'm glad are players are passionate about playing...

[prototype]

One thing we'll never know is if App State would have insisted on playing the game if they were undefeated, on a roll, and Liberty was ranked just above them in the rankings.

You obviously haven’t seen pictures out of Boone.

Of course I have. Such a game could provided a powerful rallying point within the community with proceeds of the game being donated to the rebuilding effort which I'm sure would be appreciated by those facing uninsured loses.

They are going to have to refund over 1.4 million dollars... The local business owners are losing out on expected revenue... The financial loss is extreme...

[prototype]

Count me among those that would love to see this game played during the bye week (rather than being outright cancelled).

But, according to social media - that means I must have no regard for human life, can’t possibly have compassion for those in Boone, and am likely just a mean-spirited person.

It’s crazy how some folks love typecasting others into made-up narratives. It reminds me of the current WNBA “all CC fans are racist” narrative that some folks are trying really hard to sell.

This... Ding ding ding

[Purple Haize]

One thing we'll never know is if App State would have insisted on playing the game if they were undefeated, on a roll, and Liberty was ranked just above them in the rankings.

You obviously haven’t seen pictures out of Boone.

Purple. You are taking this thing to a whole other level... I have friends in Boone, and even they are even saying it's being overblown there. Check the livecams - things are pretty close to back to normal there. It was a lot of rain... It basically went away in 24 hours. You are making it out as if the town was destroyed and it's going to take years to recover. Over 3/4 the businesses on their main tourist street were open today.

They ducked playing us.... They had options and they aren't taking them. Period. End of story... We are a Christian school - yes, but we are also playing FBS football - and I'm glad are players are passionate about playing...

I have friends in Boone as well. Things are far from ‘pretty much back to normal’. The water is down but the clean up is just beginning. You cannot go from a flooded business on Friday to ‘pretty much back to normal’ on Saturday. Roads are still out. As is a lot of electricity. App St has opened up their campus dinning area for students and non students alike.
There’s no conceivable way that football game could have been played this weekend . They had no good options and made the absolute right call. Accusing them of ‘ducking’ in light of everything that has happened is 100% bush league. Yes LU plays FBS football. Using that as an excuse to de legitimize what is happening in Boone is an ugly look for the LU fans doing it.

[TH Spangler]

Having lived in VB and on the OBX most of my life I've been through multiple hurricanes. Was without power for two weeks once. My communities suffered loss of life in a few of them. After they pass, everyone jumps in and cleans up asap. Key to a successful recovery effort is getting back to nornal as quickly as possible. Canceling the game Saturday was unavoidable. But declaring to not reschedule seemed a bit odd, and premature to me.

[prototype]

You obviously haven’t seen pictures out of Boone.

Purple. You are taking this thing to a whole other level... I have friends in Boone, and even they are even saying it's being overblown there. Check the livecams - things are pretty close to back to normal there. It was a lot of rain... It basically went away in 24 hours. You are making it out as if the town was destroyed and it's going to take years to recover. Over 3/4 the businesses on their main tourist street were open today.

They ducked playing us.... They had options and they aren't taking them. Period. End of story... We are a Christian school - yes, but we are also playing FBS football - and I'm glad are players are passionate about playing...

I have friends in Boone as well. Things are far from ‘pretty much back to normal’. The water is down but the clean up is just beginning. You cannot go from a flooded business on Friday to ‘pretty much back to normal’ on Saturday. Roads are still out. As is a lot of electricity. App St has opened up their campus dinning area for students and non students alike.
There’s no conceivable way that football game could have been played this weekend . They had no good options and made the absolute right call. Accusing them of ‘ducking’ in light of everything that has happened is 100% bush league. Yes LU plays FBS football. Using that as an excuse to de legitimize what is happening in Boone is an ugly look for the LU fans doing it.

Ducking has nothing to do with this current weekend... (I get that it will take a few weeks to completely recover...)

It's because they knew what the forecast was, and they know what their future schedule looks like, and they made no effort to reschedule... That's ducking... Like it or not - life has to go on, teams should honor games they schedule and fight to keep them, unless there is no way that happens. Not going to get on players for not being frustrated that Appy State just possibly took their opportunity of a big bowl away.

[thepostman]

Maybe it is. Maybe it's not but my point is there is a time and a place for those kinds of discussions. While the community is still under water isn't it. Nothing more. Nothing less. Running all over social media to talk crap is a bad look and because we proudly represent Christ, we are put under the microscope. And we should welcome that.

[TH Spangler]

You realize Salter was taking incoming about his stent with Tenn from some App fans. I believe it started before the cancellation. I believe the same guy was calling Cooley a bum. Smack is part of any good rivalry. Weather complicated it.

[thepostman]

Your last sentence summd it up. That's when it should've been squashed by the coaching staff which is what PH already said. We are LU. We have to be better.

Some of you disagree. Such is life. We are an opinionated bunch. Always have been.

[Sly Fox]

At least we are not arguing about uniform colors for once. But I think we have worn out this topic by now.

[thepostman]

A flamefans tradition as old as time

[JK37]

What would be the thoughts of a 20 year old Purple on this subject...

Age and immaturity may be an explanation, but not an excuse.

In this, as in all things, context is king. If Salter was already barking back and forth with App fans about his history, then I can totally understand why he messaged what he did on social media. And it was a teachable moment where a better response could have been made. Someone could/should pull the lad aside and explain things have changed and you should watch what you say because, if for no other reason, it might come back to bite you in the wallet.

Youth rarely sees the big picture on their own.

How do we know every possible option to replay the game wasn’t considered? The schedule is what it is. The options are what they are. Maybe no good ones were to be had, and it’s easy to go ahead and state now that there is no option available to replay the game. The people who do the scheduling probably needed no more than 20 minutes to determine if it was possible. It’s a far leap - and not impossible - to go from a game can’t be played, to it could be played but we just don’t want to. I’ve learned not to judge people intentions unless they state them.

I believe it’s rash to assume that App jumped on this as a chance to duck Liberty. I haven’t been shown evidence of that yet.

[TH Spangler]

Midweek games make things difficult. Not only for me personally, but in rescheduling instances like this. It is what it is. Would have been a classic match up.

[Purple Haize]

Purple. You are taking this thing to a whole other level... I have friends in Boone, and even they are even saying it's being overblown there. Check the livecams - things are pretty close to back to normal there. It was a lot of rain... It basically went away in 24 hours. You are making it out as if the town was destroyed and it's going to take years to recover. Over 3/4 the businesses on their main tourist street were open today.

They ducked playing us.... They had options and they aren't taking them. Period. End of story... We are a Christian school - yes, but we are also playing FBS football - and I'm glad are players are passionate about playing...

I have friends in Boone as well. Things are far from ‘pretty much back to normal’. The water is down but the clean up is just beginning. You cannot go from a flooded business on Friday to ‘pretty much back to normal’ on Saturday. Roads are still out. As is a lot of electricity. App St has opened up their campus dinning area for students and non students alike.
There’s no conceivable way that football game could have been played this weekend . They had no good options and made the absolute right call. Accusing them of ‘ducking’ in light of everything that has happened is 100% bush league. Yes LU plays FBS football. Using that as an excuse to de legitimize what is happening in Boone is an ugly look for the LU fans doing it.

Ducking has nothing to do with this current weekend... (I get that it will take a few weeks to completely recover...)

It's because they knew what the forecast was, and they know what their future schedule looks like, and they made no effort to reschedule... That's ducking... Like it or not - life has to go on, teams should honor games they schedule and fight to keep them, unless there is no way that happens. Not going to get on players for not being frustrated that Appy State just possibly took their opportunity of a big bowl away.

The placing of Football over People is a disturbing trend among some of our fan base. Thinking an LU Bowl game is more important than the safety and restoration of a community is an absolutely horrendous position to take. I’m 100% sure if their Marshall game is cancelled or rescheduled no one in Huntington is going to accuse them of ‘ducking’.
App St has 0 obligation to facilitate LU’s Bowl chances. I’m not sure what accommodations could have been made prior to the game that would have been acceptable. I don’t know what accommodations could be made to play the game at a later date. What I do know was this was the absolutely best call to be made especially in light of what happened to Boone. LU’s focus should be on how we can help and the next opponent

[Purple Haize]

What would be the thoughts of a 20 year old Purple on this subject...

Age and immaturity may be an explanation, but not an excuse.

In this, as in all things, context is king. If Salter was already barking back and forth with App fans about his history, then I can totally understand why he messaged what he did on social media. And it was a teachable moment where a better response could have been made. Someone could/should pull the lad aside and explain things have changed and you should watch what you say because, if for no other reason, it might come back to bite you in the wallet.

Youth rarely sees the big picture on their own.

How do we know every possible option to replay the game wasn’t considered? The schedule is what it is. The options are what they are. Maybe no good ones were to be had, and it’s easy to go ahead and state now that there is no option available to replay the game. The people who do the scheduling probably needed no more than 20 minutes to determine if it was possible. It’s a far leap - and not impossible - to go from a game can’t be played, to it could be played but we just don’t want to. I’ve learned not to judge people intentions unless they state them.

I believe it’s rash to assume that App jumped on this as a chance to duck Liberty. I haven’t been shown evidence of that yet.

I agree. If the smack talk was all about Salter and TN then game on. If they were getting on Cooley because of how he’s built, bring it! That’s great smack talking and I 100% approve of that type of back and forth. I’m sure both those lads can handle it and if they need an assist with a pithy retort…put me in coach!
I’m with you on rescheduling. I’m positive that every scenario was laid out but none would work. I’m sure LU turned some and ASU turned some down. Looking at things from my perspective I don’t see how a reschedule was possible. Moving the game up a day still puts players in jeopardy and LU could end up like ETSU and stranded. Playing today or even tomorrow would have been impossible. The water main just got restored last night and residents are having to boil water. And LU would still be stranded. ASU would be unable to either get to the game or return from it. I believe the 19th was mentioned. That’s a tough 4 day turnaround for LU to play KSU. That would be dangerous. KSU isn’t good and the danger would be to overlook them which is never good. Imagine losing to ASU, being deflated and unfocused heading into KSU and losing that one. Or beating ASU then completely overlooking KSU and losing. Of course winning both would be amazing and probably statistically more likely. But I’m not sure as a coach I’d want to take that chance. I’m not even sure ASU will be in a position to play on the 19th Plus if they have to move a conference game that’s where it might get moved. I’m just not sure there are good rescheduling options out there.

[paradox]

Enjoy your Sunday

[paradox]

...Wow...Darnold lighting up the Pack...

[BlueBlood]

I firmly believe that the vast majority of Liberty students, alum, parents and fans value people over football.

I think a few players and others said things they shouldn’t have prior to understanding the full gravity of the situation. If anyone is being mean- spirited about this (especially after learning the gravity of the situation) - that is on them.

[Humble_Opinion]

We were presented with a golden opportunity to showcase our values and principles. Helping one's neighbor in a time of need. Loving people in distress that may not like us. Putting others before ourselves. It's disappointing to go on social media and see players, especially two of our most visible, posting 'ducks' and scared emojis on announcements of cancellation of the game due to the devastation that was still ongoing at the time. Maybe some of you are unaware and the players as well that there are numerous places all across western NC that were essentially wiped off the map. Boone was lucky in this case, but there's still a lot of things happening there that are bigger than football.

Perception is reality. LU is perceived as the antithesis of everything we say we stand for. The leadership of the school for the past 15 years did some awful things and all of us are paying for it. If you don't think so, you're kidding yourself. In that light, if you can't see the problem with what transpired then you're naive and ignorant. We were presented with a small chance to gain some favorability with these people and showcase how we're "Champions for Christ" and we screwed the pooch. It would have been a welcome change to see us get it right, but that's apparently too much to ask, even for some on here.

[LUOrange]

At least we are not arguing about uniform colors for once. But I think we have worn out this topic by now.

I don't like the sissy blues. They're ugly and not a Liberty color. They should be banned as well.

[TH Spangler]

At least we are not arguing about uniform colors for once. But I think we have worn out this topic by now.

I don't like the sissy blues. They're ugly and not a Liberty color. They should be banned as well.

Wish the third color was yellow or gold.

[Purple Haize]

We were presented with a golden opportunity to showcase our values and principles. Helping one's neighbor in a time of need. Loving people in distress that may not like us. Putting others before ourselves. It's disappointing to go on social media and see players, especially two of our most visible, posting 'ducks' and scared emojis on announcements of cancellation of the game due to the devastation that was still ongoing at the time. Maybe some of you are unaware and the players as well that there are numerous places all across western NC that were essentially wiped off the map. Boone was lucky in this case, but there's still a lot of things happening there that are bigger than football.

Perception is reality. LU is perceived as the antithesis of everything we say we stand for. The leadership of the school for the past 15 years did some awful things and all of us are paying for it. If you don't think so, you're kidding yourself. In that light, if you can't see the problem with what transpired then you're naive and ignorant. We were presented with a small chance to gain some favorability with these people and showcase how we're "Champions for Christ" and we screwed the pooch. It would have been a welcome change to see us get it right, but that's apparently too much to ask, even for some on here.

Perfectly stated

[sstaedtler]

Liberty is saying they offered to play the weekend of October 19th. App is saying Liberty refused. If Liberty refused anything Oct 17-19th, that really makes me question our athletic director. Still need to find out what the truth was. I just don't get why two teams who have the same bye week cannot get together for a game. I don't care if we have Kennesaw St the following Wed - they are the worst. team in FBS football.

I saw an App State poster today saying their football stadium was fine. I'm not saying now is the time, but when App starts playing football, we do have to ask why they were willing to move other games but not. our game, if that was the case.

[Purple Haize]

Liberty is saying they offered to play the weekend of October 19th. App is saying Liberty refused. If Liberty refused anything Oct 17-19th, that really makes me question our athletic director. Still need to find out what the truth was. I just don't get why two teams who have the same bye week cannot get together for a game. I don't care if we have Kennesaw St the following Wed - they are the worst. team in FBS football.

I saw an App State poster today saying their football stadium was fine. I'm not saying now is the time, but when App starts playing football, we do have to ask why they were willing to move other games but not. our game, if that was the case.

Liberty has an away game on the 23rd. Not sure I’d want to play a game on the 19th. Not football at least.
We don’t have to ask App anything other than ‘What can we do to help?’ Pressuring them or trying to shame them into rescheduling a game is the absolute wrong thing to do

[ballah09]

Liberty is saying they offered to play the weekend of October 19th. App is saying Liberty refused. If Liberty refused anything Oct 17-19th, that really makes me question our athletic director. Still need to find out what the truth was. I just don't get why two teams who have the same bye week cannot get together for a game. I don't care if we have Kennesaw St the following Wed - they are the worst. team in FBS football.

I saw an App State poster today saying their football stadium was fine. I'm not saying now is the time, but when App starts playing football, we do have to ask why they were willing to move other games but not. our game, if that was the case.

Dude you got to move on with the App State game.