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By ballcoach15
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If the NCAA tried to cap the number of members of a conference, a conference would’ve sued and won. The NCAA is powerless, and it’s not the NCAA’s fault.
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As governing body of college sports, why is NCAA powerless ? Granted their leadership has been bad with the past 2 NCAA presidents. This guy they have now may be worse than Emmert, if that's possible.
By JK37
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ballcoach15 wrote: July 17th, 2024, 8:54 am If the NCAA tried to cap the number of members of a conference, a conference would’ve sued and won. The NCAA is powerless, and it’s not the NCAA’s fault.
As governing body of college sports, why is NCAA powerless ? Granted their leadership has been bad with the past 2 NCAA presidents. This guy they have now may be worse than Emmert, if that's possible.
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From where does the NCAA’s ”power” come?
By ballcoach15
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JK37 wrote: July 17th, 2024, 12:09 pm
ballcoach15 wrote: July 17th, 2024, 8:54 am If the NCAA tried to cap the number of members of a conference, a conference would’ve sued and won. The NCAA is powerless, and it’s not the NCAA’s fault.
As governing body of college sports, why is NCAA powerless ? Granted their leadership has been bad with the past 2 NCAA presidents. This guy they have now may be worse than Emmert, if that's possible.
From where does the NCAA’s ”power” come?
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I would guess it comes from NCAA by-laws. But we all know the NCAA allows several P5 schools to control most everything.
(Ohio State, Notre Dame, Oklahoma, Texas, among others).
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By TH Spangler
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If the ACC lost 6 or more, in NC would they look at App to go with Wake, or ECU?

If UVA went to the B10 and VaTech to the B12. Who could the ACC look to in Virginia. JMU, ODU or Liberty?
By ATrain
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ODU is in the Hampton Roads media market, and the 757 has been a hotbed for football recruiting. They also have a good basketball history, so they seem to check the boxes that the ACC would be looking for. I could see the ACC adding both App State and ECU with ODU, and probably Charlotte and Temple "BeCaUsE MeDiA MaRkEtS"
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By cruzan_flame13
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ATrain wrote: July 18th, 2024, 9:38 am ODU is in the Hampton Roads media market, and the 757 has been a hotbed for football recruiting. They also have a good basketball history, so they seem to check the boxes that the ACC would be looking for. I could see the ACC adding both App State and ECU with ODU, and probably Charlotte and Temple "BeCaUsE MeDiA MaRkEtS"
Maybe we can get the spot in the AAC and WKU and Louisiana Tech can get into the Sun Belt :lol:
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By TH Spangler
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ATrain wrote: July 18th, 2024, 9:38 am ODU is in the Hampton Roads media market, and the 757 has been a hotbed for football recruiting. They also have a good basketball history, so they seem to check the boxes that the ACC would be looking for.
Past decade we have a better basketball history. Monarchs have made one appearance in March Madness since 2014. Liberty has made two since 2014, winning one game.
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By LUOrange
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Craziest rumor alert. A reliable source from SEC country has told me that SEC has had membership talks with a few very high profile B10 schools in the past 6 months. Grain of salt alert-but wanted to share. This would shake CFB to its very core.</p>&mdash; MHver3 (@MHver3) <a href="
18, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

There's some crazy talk going on around the TwittersXerSphere. I'm not sure what to believe, but I'm not believing Clemson & FSU to the B12 until it happens. I wouldn't be surprised if the ACC stays as is until 2027 or so when ESPN will elect not to continue on, allowing the big ACC brands to leave. Unless, of course, Clemson & FSU's lawsuits are successful. TBH, the ACC staying intact til 2027 is probably better for us- continued G5 domination and hopefully a significant improvement in MBB and academics.

Again and as of right now, I think a depleted ACC's first looks will go to UConn, Temple, ECU, USF, Memphis and the PAC2. I wouldn't be shocked if ODU and UNCC got invited though, although I do think Appy, JMU and even us would be ahead of them.
By AATL
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LUOrange wrote: July 18th, 2024, 12:56 pm


There's some crazy talk going on around the TwittersXerSphere. I'm not sure what to believe, but I'm not believing Clemson & FSU to the B12 until it happens. I wouldn't be surprised if the ACC stays as is until 2027 or so when ESPN will elect not to continue on, allowing the big ACC brands to leave. Unless, of course, Clemson & FSU's lawsuits are successful. TBH, the ACC staying intact til 2027 is probably better for us- continued G5 domination and hopefully a significant improvement in MBB and academics.

Again and as of right now, I think a depleted ACC's first looks will go to UConn, Temple, ECU, USF, Memphis and the PAC2. I wouldn't be shocked if ODU and UNCC got invited though, although I do think Appy, JMU and even us would be ahead of them.
Listen, I'm absolutely here for some chaos in the B1G (Jettisoning Rutgers and Maryland back into the abyss, the Michigan BoR making good on their veiled threats to bail just to spite Tony Petitti, Lincoln Riley bailing before the OU > SEC move just to end up back in the SEC, etc.)..

But I don't see that happening. The B1G schools are making a ton of money, and it seems like a tough sell for any B1G program to move into a deeper conference with a more... "comprehensive" understanding of NIL. Factoring in the academic pride of some of the B1G elites, it's tough to see any of them making the jump.
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By Ill flame
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TH Spangler wrote: July 18th, 2024, 7:07 pm Probably Nebraska and Penn State.
If there is any truth to that rumor these are the two schools I would suspect the most. Nebraska could really benefit from being back in the same conference as mizzou, Oklahoma and Texas. I'm not sure what appeal there would be for Penn state to leave but they are the only other high profile school that doesn't have any real rivals in the big ten they would be leaving.

In reality it wouldn't make much sense for either to leave. The big ten makes more tv money and gets more tv exposure. With the big ten having 3 games on broadcast TV every week schools like Penn state won't be relegated to cable often. Meanwhile if they were to join the SEC where they only have a deal with ABC, playing on ESPN most weeks would be the best case scenario for them.
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By cruzan_flame13
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TH Spangler wrote: July 20th, 2024, 7:13 pm ECU? There is a rumor that the NC board of governors is pushing for the ACC to invite East Carolina.

https://x.com/flatland_sports/status/18 ... YbdQg&s=19
Would be a foolish idea if they would be the first additional choice (if teams dissolve from the conference). Side tracking, did anyone see the banner that the ACC had for media day? They actually thought placing "The conference with the hardest ooc schedule" is a flex. Come on Pres. Costin, BoT and McCaw, give Bhrett Yormark a fat check for application and some other misc cost to join that additional future 24 team Big XII conference :lol:
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By tyndal23
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So when CUSA votes to not got to max scholarships and paying rev share to players - our we still going to be happy? I highly doubt they let 1 school have an advantage over rest of Conference...
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By cruzan_flame13
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tyndal23 wrote: July 24th, 2024, 5:34 pm So when CUSA votes to not got to max scholarships and paying rev share to players - our we still going to be happy? I highly doubt they let 1 school have an advantage over rest of Conference...
Leadership wouldn't mind since they like to be the big fish in a small pond...
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By Kricket
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You guys are funny. It wasn’t that long ago we were in the Big South and last year we played Oregon in the Fiesta bowl. Sure, C-USA isn’t the desired end location, but to act like leadership is happy staying stagnant is a bit over the top.
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By LUOrange
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After all of the "rumors" and smoke of Clemson and FSU to the B12, it now appears that there'll be no significant movement until at least 2026-27, as per the Twitter experts, or obviously, if the court cases goes the Tigers and Noles ways.

So for now, we're stuck in the "dreaded" CUSA, which I'm fine with. I really enjoyed last college sports season in CUSA. My only complaint and wish is for us to improve our football and MBB non-conference scheduling. In football, the 13-0 to the CFP mindset is unreasonable and unsustainable.
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By Kricket
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Totally agree with the last statement. To expect to be undefeated is an insanely high bar. Many fans, and even ASOR articles are looking at game by game analysis and essentially making predictions based one who should win each game. The reality is each game is a percentage chance to win. If a team has a 51% chance to win each game, it’s very unlikely they will go undefeated even if they are favored in every game. The mathematical expectation should be 6 or 7 in reality.

FPI has us around 9 wins for that reason. That’s probably the line where the season is a good one vs bad one. Of course we’d all love another undefeated run.

If we had a shot to join the AAC I’d jump at the chance because it would give us a margin of error in having a loss or maybe even two. Thinking we have a shot at the ACC is kind of far fetched in my opinion even with a major collapse.
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By tyndal23
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Kricket wrote: July 25th, 2024, 11:59 am Totally agree with the last statement. To expect to be undefeated is an insanely high bar. Many fans, and even ASOR articles are looking at game by game analysis and essentially making predictions based one who should win each game. The reality is each game is a percentage chance to win. If a team has a 51% chance to win each game, it’s very unlikely they will go undefeated even if they are favored in every game. The mathematical expectation should be 6 or 7 in reality.

FPI has us around 9 wins for that reason. That’s probably the line where the season is a good one vs bad one. Of course we’d all love another undefeated run.

If we had a shot to join the AAC I’d jump at the chance because it would give us a margin of error in having a loss or maybe even two. Thinking we have a shot at the ACC is kind of far fetched in my opinion even with a major collapse.
I just can’t help but think an SDSU,USF,Memphis ( types ) are going to go along with a G5 Conference Mandate of fewer scholarships and not paying $22 million annually and voluntarily be relegated back to FCS ( which is what it will be if P4 gets 105 scholarships and G5 stays at 85. I could see 8-10 G5 breaking out and paying the $ vs dropping down. I don’t see any G5 conference with majority of team (votes) having enough $ to elect to go to that model, even if they want to. I also don’t see any G5 Conference allowing individual schools to choose one or the other - giving a huge advantage to the “haves” over “have nots” within conference. Will be interesting and probably the number 1 item on each Conference Commissioners list right now - decisions have to be made quickly on this.
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