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By Ill flame
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ATrain wrote: May 10th, 2024, 10:25 am Its official: Missouri State is coming to CUSA. Anyone know how far they are from Branson???
About 45 minutes and about halfway between Springfield and Branson is Lamberts Cafe which I would highly recommend to anyone visiting the area. It's like cracker barrel with better food, bigger serving sizes and they walk around and throw big delicious rolls at people.
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By Sly Fox
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The state of their football program is less than optimal. But the rest of their programs are well-funded and competitive in general. Hopefully this is the last addition we see to CUSA while we are

MSU Official Announcement

Just to clarify, Kennesaw State joins starting this fall. Delaware & Missouri State join in the Fall of 2025. Twelve seems a nice place for Judy to conclude her expansion efforts.
By ballcoach15
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Missouri State is an excellent addition to CUSA. (much better than Kennesaw State and Delaware was, in my opinion.) It gives the conference a footprint in that part of America.
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By LUOrange
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Sly Fox wrote: May 10th, 2024, 11:27 am The state of their football program is less than optimal. But the rest of their programs are well-funded and competitive in general. Hopefully this is the last addition we see to CUSA while we are

MSU Official Announcement

Just to clarify, Kennesaw State joins starting this fall. Delaware & Missouri State join in the Fall of 2025. Twelve seems a nice place for Judy to conclude her expansion efforts.
IMO, outside of the Dakotas and Montanas, there are no other FCS schools that are worth adding at this point in the realignment era. 12 makes scheduling easier and secures the conference from future departures. I'd hold fast at least until after the next round of movement.
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By TH Spangler
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Sly Fox wrote: May 10th, 2024, 11:27 am The state of their football program is less than optimal. But the rest of their programs are well-funded and competitive in general. Hopefully this is the last addition we see to CUSA while we are

MSU Official Announcement

Just to clarify, Kennesaw State joins starting this fall. Delaware & Missouri State join in the Fall of 2025. Twelve seems a nice place for Judy to conclude her expansion efforts.
Will we see east, west divisions? Like Sunbelt.
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By LUOrange
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ballcoach15 wrote: May 10th, 2024, 12:49 pm Dakotas and Montana are too far away for CUSA.
The push for a G5 playoff may be bigger than we realize. Which appears to be what the Dakotas and Montanas are waiting for.

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By Ill flame
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With this addition CUSA is starting to make more sense geographically. You've got a core group of 7 schools that are relatively close to each other and then two more pairs of schools that have travel partners (UTEP/NMSU, LU/UDEL). The only true outlier is FIU but people generally don't mind traveling to South Florida. I'm curious how long it lasts.
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By TH Spangler
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LUOrange wrote: May 10th, 2024, 1:25 pm
ballcoach15 wrote: May 10th, 2024, 12:49 pm Dakotas and Montana are too far away for CUSA.
The push for a G5 playoff may be bigger than we realize. Which appears to be what the Dakotas and Montanas are waiting for.

He said the upper level must share $20 to$30M with their athletes. My question, will all current power schools be able to do that? If not, how many could? Could we commit to something like that?
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By cruzan_flame13
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TH Spangler wrote: May 10th, 2024, 3:21 pm
LUOrange wrote: May 10th, 2024, 1:25 pm
ballcoach15 wrote: May 10th, 2024, 12:49 pm Dakotas and Montana are too far away for CUSA.
The push for a G5 playoff may be bigger than we realize. Which appears to be what the Dakotas and Montanas are waiting for.

He said the upper level must share $20 to$30M with their athletes. My question, will all current power schools be able to do that? If not, how many could? Could we commit to something like that?
The question is would LU commit if the opportunity was open to do so? LU is in a situation where many power schools do not have. Many of those school depend on that tv money annually just to get by. LU better place their mind on being approved for a R2 classification, so that spending that kind of money will be 100% worth it.
By tyndal23
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cruzan_flame13 wrote: May 10th, 2024, 4:06 pm
TH Spangler wrote: May 10th, 2024, 3:21 pm
LUOrange wrote: May 10th, 2024, 1:25 pm

The push for a G5 playoff may be bigger than we realize. Which appears to be what the Dakotas and Montanas are waiting for.

He said the upper level must share $20 to$30M with their athletes. My question, will all current power schools be able to do that? If not, how many could? Could we commit to something like that?
The question is would LU commit if the opportunity was open to do so? LU is in a situation where many power schools do not have. Many of those school depend on that tv money annually just to get by. LU better place their mind on being approved for a R2 classification, so that spending that kind of money will be 100% worth it.
Only shot for LU in my mind is IF there is a defined breakaway - some sort of antitrust suit against exclusion or barrier to entry that LU is financially qualified to handle but not allowed to participate. Can’t compel a Conference to take in current format, but if they can expel schools that don’t have financial qualifications, they would have to include those who do.
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By cruzan_flame13
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TH Spangler wrote: May 10th, 2024, 4:25 pm ACC schools get 30-38M TV money. If 20-30M has to go to athletes, schools like Wake are in over their heads for sure.


The growing division continues to grow. What can schools like Wake or Syracuse do, but just stand by as the ship is slowly sinking.
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By ballcoach15
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ACC dug their own grave with poor leadership. At one time ACC was just behind SEC as being the best conference in NCAA. But they started adding "non-ACC" schools that no one in ACC country cares about, and conference went down from there. I wonder how many championships Notre Dame has caused real ACC schools to lose, since the golden doomers were added to ACC ?
I recall when Syracuse played at LU 4 or 5 years ago. There were very few Syracuse fans in the stands. I have said for years, ACC should have added Liberty and East Carolina, instead of those northern schools and mid western schools.
By ATrain
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Doesn't affect us at all, but our former Big South rival Birmingham-Southern College is closing down at the end of May. Their baseball team is in superregionals, and may be playing for a college that no longer exists.
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By LUOrange
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ATrain wrote: May 22nd, 2024, 11:44 am Doesn't affect us at all, but our former Big South rival Birmingham-Southern College is closing down at the end of May. Their baseball team is in superregionals, and may be playing for a college that no longer exists.
Liberty's Birmingham campus?
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By cruzan_flame13
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LUOrange wrote: May 23rd, 2024, 10:08 am
ATrain wrote: May 22nd, 2024, 11:44 am Doesn't affect us at all, but our former Big South rival Birmingham-Southern College is closing down at the end of May. Their baseball team is in superregionals, and may be playing for a college that no longer exists.
Liberty's Birmingham campus?
The extended campus needs to be in the west. Great location would be in Utah :lol:.
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