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Coach sounds like a bitter bitter man. How about saying...
..."We just didn't get the job done, but we are pleased that the program is in better shape than when we took over." Is that too much to ask?
Dunton out as LU men's basketball coach
Falwell pushes national search for new coach

By Chris Lang
clang@newsadvance.com
February 28, 2007


When Randy Dunton took over a disaster of a Liberty basketball program before the 2002-03 season, he said he thought it would take five years to bring it back to respectability.

Then he realized what kind of hole he was working from. Former coach Mel Hankinson had left the program in shambles. The recruiting pipeline was dry. Relationships with high school coaches were non-existent.

Make that a 10-year project, one Dunton will never get to see through.

Liberty athletics director Jeff Barber elected to go a different direction with the program Wednesday, dismissing Dunton and his staff a day after the Flames lost 79-78 at home to VMI in the quarterfinals of the Big South Conference tournament to conclude a 14-17 season.

"If you want to ask me, when did I feel (this was the right move), then a couple of weeks ago, I had the information I needed to make this move," Barber said. "(Tuesday) night had nothing to do with it."

Instead, it was the lack of progress on the national scene that doomed Dunton. Liberty has the largest basketball budget in the Big South and only had one overall winning record in Dunton's five seasons. He also was Liberty's interim coach in 1997-98, taking a team with seven scholarship players to an 11-17 mark and a fourth-place Big South finish.

Liberty only cracked the top 200 in the RPI once in Dunton's tenure, finishing at No. 165 in 2003-04 when the Flames won the Big South tournament title and made their only NCAA appearance under Dunton.

The loss to VMI dropped the Flames to No. 282. Liberty was No. 316 last year.

"I just didn't feel like the program was in the shape it should have been after five years," Barber said. "I didn't believe he was the right person to lead us for the next five years either. I feel like Randy has taken us as far as he can take us."

Dunton pointed to Liberty's Big South finishes during his tenure. Liberty only finished worse than third once in the last five years. After finishing eighth during an injury-wracked 2005-06 season, LU rebounded to finish third in the Big South this year.

The Flames have lost in quarterfinals of the last three Big South tournaments.

"It's a disappointing day, obviously," Dunton said. "We still had a big-time vision and a big-time plan for where we were headed.

"If people could have stepped back and really looked at what was accomplished, I think it merits the direction we were headed in. It doesn't merit termination.

"Everything was in place, and I think people know that."

Dunton said he didn't feel Barber had a true appreciation for how difficult turning around Liberty's program was.

In Hankinson's last year, Liberty ranked dead last out of 324 Division I teams in the RPI.

"It takes time to re-establish recruiting," Dunton said. "I've said this inside to administration: We finally got to the place where that stuff was really connected again, where we could walk into a venue and we've got some serious recruiting connections that are going to unlock doors to real talent.

"This was the worst program in America, and we resurrected it. ? We were not given a fair shake to move this program forward at this time. For him to tell me first, second, second, third is not success, then they don't know where we were before."

Dunton addressed the team in its Vines Center team room at 3 p.m., five hours after he initially met with Barber.

"It was pretty surprising that the call was being made after the game we just lost," Liberty guard Dwight Brewington said.

"Of course, it is a sad moment, for him and all of us. It's a sad thing for him and his family."

Added forward Alex McLean: "I don't think anybody saw it coming. I'm surprised, but it's a business. The whole team is probably a little broken down right now. We're just trying to pick everybody up this week and stay together."

Brewington, who transferred from Providence, said he won't make up his mind on coming back to Liberty until he has more information about the new coaching staff.

"If the time is good to leave, then it's good to leave," said Brewington, who averaged 14.7 points per game. "If the time is bad to leave, then I'll stay."

Barber said a national search for a successor would begin immediately and added he has no specific candidates in mind yet. He said the move was made so quickly after the season to get a jump on other schools who may have coaching openings.

Barber said he wants a coach with major Division I experience, either as an assistant or head coach.

He hopes to make the hire within a month.

"We want to move quickly, but we won't rush this," Barber said.

Liberty's outgoing assistant coaches - Alexis Sherard, Zack Jones and Dominic Okon - are unlikely to be considered for the head coach opening. They can apply for a job under the new head coach once he is appointed.

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By TDDance234
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"If the time is good to leave, then it's good to leave," said Brewington, who averaged 14.7 points per game. "If the time is bad to leave, then I'll stay."
That would be a major loss. If Alex follows him out the door.. ugh.
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By jcmanson
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Alot to digest in that article.

The key for the next 2-3 years, is to make sure we can keep as many of the guys we currently have on the team for next year. There are always some kids that will leave, but we need to keep as many as possible if we are to have any success next year.
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By Purple Haize
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I think we have two different people looking at things in two different ways. To say the least. JB looks like he handled this with great professionalism and class which is a good sign.
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By El Scorcho
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TDDance234 wrote:
"If the time is good to leave, then it's good to leave," said Brewington, who averaged 14.7 points per game. "If the time is bad to leave, then I'll stay."
That would be a major loss. If Alex follows him out the door.. ugh.
It would be, but if he's not dedicated to the program, then it's better if he goes. If that's the sacrifice we have to make to get the program on the right track, then so be it. It'd be awfully nice if he stayed though.
By jmdickens
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yeah, JB is only looking out for the University. Ace wont leave, nor will TJ, Baker, and hopefully Brew. I would be most concerned about Jenkins leaving
By Hold My Own
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We will prob lose the 7 footer as well
By LUconn
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^ that was my biggest fear. Did he sign a LOI? I know in these cases a school will gladly let them out of that but at least it's not as flimsy as a verbal.
By Hold My Own
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From what I'm gathering he's ink'd but no longer willing to come...I'm hoping this is just a brief spell he's going through
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By Fumblerooskies
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Hold My Own wrote:From what I'm gathering he's ink'd but no longer willing to come...I'm hoping this is just a brief spell he's going through
This is a situation where I hope JB can get a quick hire...
...or at least by the end of March.
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By bigsmooth
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i would like to think the new coach would consider okon simply because ofd the nigerian pipeline.
By Hold My Own
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I would like to think a new coach would consider Zack and Okon...and I dont care how hard you find you wont get anybody with more experience in Jason's position...and to think that was filled by Casey, Jason was a huge upgrade...boy I hope he sticks
By mrich
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Glad to see that RD tells the admin that basically they have no idea what they are talking about. I did feel a little bit of sympathy for him yesterday, but not after this. He was never willing to own up. I for one can't wait to get somone who is a proven leader.
By paradox
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The best way to keep this group intact would be to hire Sherard as head coach.

How can Barber afford to not consider Sherard after he managed to convince Brewington and Bannister to transfer here?
By Chris Lang
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I talked to Alexis yesterday and he didn't seem all that enthused about applying for the head coaching position.
By paradox
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mrich wrote:Glad to see that RD tells the admin that basically they have no idea what they are talking about. I did feel a little bit of sympathy for him yesterday, but not after this. He was never willing to own up. I for one can't wait to get somone who is a proven leader.
That's your problem.

Dunton has the right to his own perspective and he doesn't need our sympathy either.

And Jeff Barber will be evaluated based on whether or not he can deliver on a big-time coach who will take the program to new heights. :)
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By bigsmooth
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cmon mrich. dunton is entitled to his opinion. you obviously do not like him, but leave that stuff from this board.
By paradox
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Chris Lang wrote:I talked to Alexis yesterday and he didn't seem all that enthused about applying for the head coaching position.
Yea, well, Barber made it pretty clear that he was looking beyonf the current staff. He may have already identified his guy.

Is Alexis packing his bags or is he willing to negotiate with the new coach?
By TruthSlayer11
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paradox wrote:The best way to keep this group intact would be to hire Sherard as head coach.

How can Barber afford to not consider Sherard after he managed to convince Brewington and Bannister to transfer here?

That wouldnt be a good idea...it would be the same as bringing in Gillien....I'm leaving it at that
By LUconn
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I don't understand what the problem is with Dunton's comments. He thought the program was on track. I think if he thought differently, he would have taken the resignation option that was given to him. The guy is gone. You can stop looking for reasons to dislike him.
By Hold My Own
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I agree...I mean you cant disagree with that...Wins and losses it's better than when he received it...he has a title to show...we're fearing that some players might leave unlike when he got here and we were praying they would leave....is it where JB wants it to be...no...is it where RD wants it to be, no...but it is better
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By WWJFD
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Chris Lang wrote:I talked to Alexis yesterday and he didn't seem all that enthused about applying for the head coaching position.

Hey Chris, how would you feel if you just found out you lost your job? Did you honesty expect Sherard to jump up and down in excitement and proclaim to you he wanted to be the next coach? Even if Sherard wants the job or not, he just found out he was "losing" his job. Plus I would expect Sherard would not disrespect RD and tell you if he was interested in the job 2 hours after the announcement (interested or not). I bet Sherard has more class than that.

I cannot imagine what was going through all the staff's minds at that time. For all the assistants, then arrived in Lynchburg with their families 2 years ago or less. I am sure that was more on their mind than to talk to you about their next move.

Have a little sympathy here. Maybe you should report on fact rather than speculation!
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By Sly Fox
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Anyone who has a problem with Coach D's statements have never been through the experience of losing a job you loved before. Its an extremely painful experience and considering the circumstances I have zero problem with anything he said. He believed he had the program on the right track and that his accomplishments weren't being recognized in the decision-making process. Those are fair complaints for anyone in his shoes.

That said, let's try to avoid kicking someone when they are down. I wish Coach D nothing but success with everything he pursues the rest of his career ... except when he's facing the Flames.

As for the assistants, things will shake out for them. Each of them have strong reasons why a new head coach would consider keeping them on staff. All three really impressed me in their time on the mountain.
By Hold My Own
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Has Radford hired anyone yet? :twisted:
By SuperJon
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jmdickens wrote:I would be most concerned about Jenkins leaving
Why would BJ leave?
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