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By ballcoach15
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I just looked at the standings of the almighty Big 10. Out of 14 teams, only 4 have a winning record.
I'm headed to Food Lion to get me a box of cupcakes.
By rogers3
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ballcoach15 wrote: December 6th, 2020, 2:23 pm
rogers3 wrote: December 5th, 2020, 10:07 pm
ballcoach15 wrote: December 5th, 2020, 8:46 pm We should move up 3 or 4 spots.
You are the only person I can immediately identify by your wacko posts.
I'm not a mathematician, but moving UP from 25th to 21st, is 4 spots.
:football
Well your reading comprehension would be remiss if you didn't acknowledge that I attributed your wacko comments to you"body of work.". I am pleasantly surprised, and you are still a little wacko.
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By TH Spangler
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rogers3 wrote: December 6th, 2020, 10:40 pm
ballcoach15 wrote: December 6th, 2020, 2:23 pm
rogers3 wrote: December 5th, 2020, 10:07 pm

You are the only person I can immediately identify by your wacko posts.
I'm not a mathematician, but moving UP from 25th to 21st, is 4 spots.
:football
Well your reading comprehension would be remiss if you didn't acknowledge that I attributed your wacko comments to your "body of work.". I am pleasantly surprised, and you are still a little wacko.
FIFY. Please watch your grammar and spelling. :lol:
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By Logic
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hey...NC State beat us and we’re ranked ahead in both polls. We don’t play and move up...under normal circumstances this would be a head scratcher - maybe it still is - but I am not complaining!
By ballcoach15
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LU did not make Top 25 in today's CFP rankings.
The selection committee is crooked, not because LU isn't ranked, but because of all the 3 loss teams they have ranked, and keeping the Ohio team at #4.
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By Ill flame
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I understand why they didnt rank liberty. We look average at best according to metrics like FPI but that's some serious disrespect from the committee to rank a 5-3 Mizzou over us.
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By BlueBlood
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I don't understand the CFP's love-fest with two and three loss Big 12 teams.

In out-of-conference play, the Big 12...
- went 0-3 against the Sun Belt
- out of 10 games, only picked up two FBS wins (both against G5s)
- beat a couple FCS schools

Two-loss Iowa St. has naked pictures of somebody on the CFP committee. They are sitting at number 7 in the CFP. They seem to have suffered no penalty at all for either loss. If ISU was undefeated (instead of two losses), they'd probably be in the same exact spot (behind three undefeated teams, two one-loss SEC teams, and one-loss Clemson).

I'm really not sure how the CFP seems so willing to ignore how convincingly Louisiana beat Iowa St. at Iowa St.

Also, at this point I'm pretty convinced that the CFP is keeping 3-loss Texas and 3-loss OK St. ranked just to bolster ISU's resume.
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By VarsityLu
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ballcoach15 wrote: December 8th, 2020, 8:24 pm LU did not make Top 25 in today's CFP rankings.
The selection committee is crooked, not because LU isn't ranked, but because of all the 3 loss teams they have ranked, and keeping the Ohio team at #4.
The truth is Ohio State is ranked too low if anything. The top 4 teams are head and shoulders above the rest and it's not even close.
By ballcoach15
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Ohio State's resume is not as good as every SEC or ACC team, that is ranked. Ohio State has played 1 team that is ranked, if my memory is correct.
Ohio's opponents have a 14-19 record, with Indiana having 6 of the 14 wins. Liberty has more wins than Ohio's other 4 opponents COMBINED.
By JK37
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Resume matters less than eye test. That’s why the CFP is utilized - human eye balls are better.

C’mon, BC, I’d you are a real coach you know talent when you see it. I don’t like the B1G, and maybe they shouldn’t be in due to playing too few games, but on talent alone Ohio State is Top 4. Doesn’t mater who they’ve played. Surely YOU don’t need to be “coached up” to see that.
By ballcoach15
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No one really knows if Ohio State is any good. Their schedule is too weak to make an honest determination. Texas A&M and Florida have played a far tougher schedule.
There are 2 sets of rules. 1 for OSU & Notre Dame, and 1 for rest of NCAA.
Playing half and season should not get anyone in playoffs.
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By VarsityLu
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ballcoach15 wrote: December 9th, 2020, 2:16 pm No one really knows if Ohio State is any good. Their schedule is too weak to make an honest determination. Texas A&M and Florida have played a far tougher schedule.
There are 2 sets of rules. 1 for OSU & Notre Dame, and 1 for rest of NCAA.
Playing half and season should not get anyone in playoffs.
Get out of your endless nonsense loop, bro. You do realize that the Big 10 is now going into week 8 of games right? Almost half of the SEC has only played 8 games. What make the SEC's 8 games special and rank worthy but the Big 10's 8 games not? Do you just keep repeating your nonsense in hopes that someone will believe you? It's not Ohio State's fault 2 of their games got cancelled just like it's not LUs fault the Coastal Game got cancelled. It's also not Ohio State's fault their season started later than others. Yes, they are having a football season.

Every single ranking system (polls, power, rpi, etc. you name it) has Ohio State in the top 4, some as high as 2nd. You seem to be the only person on the face of the planet who disagrees. My guess is you have never even watched them play.
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By chris leedlelee
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JK37 wrote: December 9th, 2020, 1:44 pm Resume matters less than eye test. That’s why the CFP is utilized - human eye balls are better.
See this is where I diverge from the methodology of the CFP. If "looks" are all that matters, why don't we just play Clemson vs. Alabama for the championship every year. What is the point of the season? Wins and losses need to matter. Yes, a 12-0 "lesser" program should get into the CFP over a 11-1 Clemson or Alabama. Why even play the games if the only test that matters is the eyeball test?
By Dalegarz1
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I've seen Ohio State and Coastal Carolina. IMHO, the Buckeyes would win by 30+. The 3 best teams are Bama, Clemson and Ohio State. I think Dabo's boys will thump the Irish on the 19th.
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By Purple Haize
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Dalegarz1 wrote: December 9th, 2020, 6:32 pm I've seen Ohio State and Coastal Carolina. IMHO, the Buckeyes would win by 30+. The 3 best teams are Bama, Clemson and Ohio State. I think Dabo's boys will thump the Irish on the 19th.
Yeah ND beat a glorified HS team when they played Clemson the first time. And it still took multiple OT’s.
Love to see A and M get in the mix just to get someone new
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By ballcoach15
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As expected, the crooked B10 changed their rules to let Ohio State play in championship game vs Northwestern. That may be the most unethical decision ever made in college football. I hope Northwestern beat their sorry ________s.
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By flameshaw
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ballcoach15 wrote: December 9th, 2020, 6:59 pm As expected, the crooked B10 changed their rules to let Ohio State play in championship game vs Northwestern. That may be the most unethical decision ever made in college football. I hope Northwestern beat their sorry ________s.
You failed to mention that if OSU were to lose to Michigan, they still would have gone to the Championship game due to them beating Indiana head to head.
Also you give the BIG a lot of credit, by thinking they were organized enough to conspire to help OSU. Especially since all of the BIG AD's had a vote on the subject.
By ballcoach15
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It's like someone said on Paul Finebaum show yesterday, only reason B10 changed their initial decision not to play, was to get Ohio State into playoffs. I hope someday, the other 13 schools in conference wake up, and stop letting Ohio State run the conference. Changing the rules to aid 1 team, is very unethical.

Also, on the Finebaum show yesterday, someone gave Liberty some good PR.
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By VarsityLu
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ballcoach15 wrote: December 9th, 2020, 8:57 pm It's like someone said on Paul Finebaum show yesterday, only reason B10 changed their initial decision not to play, was to get Ohio State into playoffs. I hope someday, the other 13 schools in conference wake up, and stop letting Ohio State run the conference. Changing the rules to aid 1 team, is very unethical.
Man, your logic is so messed up. I hope you realize the Ohio State making the playoffs is beneficial to every other Big 10 team. Playing the Big 10 championship game with Northwestern vs IU does nothing for the conference. Absolutely nothing. The other 13 teams ought to be thanking their lucky stars that OSU is so good. This is definitely a down year for the conference and having one national contender is keeping them afloat. By your logic, the other 13 in the SEC should wake up and put their foot down with Alabama. Truth is, except for last year, without Bama, the SEC may not have a team in the playoffs. Do you think kicking them to the curb is a good idea? Of course not. Stop your biased drivel and think.

And as far as ethics goes, the Big 10 is autonomous. They don't answer to you. They make their own rules. This isn't about ethics. You are just mad that OSU will make the playoffs over two SEC teams. Just admit it.
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