- November 27th, 2020, 11:51 am
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You said 1970s Russia would be proud. Nothing about how our media delivers news would make them proud.
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thepostman wrote: ↑November 27th, 2020, 11:51 am You said 1970s Russia would be proud. Nothing about how our media delivers news would make them proud.You stated that much of the media has an agenda. So did 70’s Soviet Russian media. While ours isn’t controlled by the Government it definitely something the Tass editors would envy.
thepostman wrote: ↑November 27th, 2020, 12:02 pm That is a pretty key difference and was my point.straw man fallacy
thepostman wrote: ↑November 27th, 2020, 11:33 am I don't think there is a media blackout but each media company clearly has some kind of narrative they are trying to communicate. I'm not a fan but comparing it with 1970s Russia is just such a huge jump in my opinion.Former KGB Yuri Bezmenov warned about media and schools of the U.S. being transformed into a Soviet type society in the 1980's. This isn't something theoretical because it is quite evident. So it's either one do not want to know or refuse to believe because it'll effect what they want to believe. That's literally cognitive dissidence. I realize people get a bit or extremely defensive if they're told that they're being lied to or that they may not know what's going on, but isn't that a individual issue with self? Anyways the media/schools and education has also been infected along with politics. Just to point out how far we've become left as society,for instance, there were about 30 companies that had control of t.v. channels including news channels. Now only 6 "companies" control TV studios, which are Warmer, CBS (both made deals with the C.I.A. in the 40's), NewsCorp, Disney, Viacom and GE. So yes there are only narrative s that they want people to believe than other opinion/options; this includes the internet when using Google, social media and the fact checkers like Wikipedia, etc. If that's not dystopian , then I don't know what is Orwell would say I told ya so and Huxley would say that no one listened to him and his open interviews about engineering of consent(although that term is more favored towards Edward Bernay).
cruzan_flame13 wrote:Yahoo news haha. I'm not looking for information from news websites. I'm actually looking at people who actually had dead relative or their pets vote. I'm not even mentioning in this one behalf of Trump or Biden. The point is that they're fraud and these news publications and outlets gave severely down play the situation. They've been heavy fraud on both main in and electronic votes. It really doesn't matter who gets in because they'll be more bills that take away Americans liberties plus more funding in U.S. foreign intervention. The U.S. debt continue to increase along with individually debt that Americans do not know or care about (https://usdebtclock.org).How about a local news article about the PA republican voter that faces 10 years in prison. https://www.citizensvoice.com/news/crim ... 990de.html
puttincomputers wrote: ↑November 28th, 2020, 9:55 pmLocal news just regurgitate from each other. They make a heart movie 'They Live' look like an allegory(though it really is if people were honest with themselves):cruzan_flame13 wrote:Yahoo news haha. I'm not looking for information from news websites. I'm actually looking at people who actually had dead relative or their pets vote. I'm not even mentioning in this one behalf of Trump or Biden. The point is that they're fraud and these news publications and outlets gave severely down play the situation. They've been heavy fraud on both main in and electronic votes. It really doesn't matter who gets in because they'll be more bills that take away Americans liberties plus more funding in U.S. foreign intervention. The U.S. debt continue to increase along with individually debt that Americans do not know or care about (https://usdebtclock.org).How about a local news article about the PA republican voter that faces 10 years in prison. https://www.citizensvoice.com/news/crim ... 990de.html
Here's another local article. https://www.wnep.com/article/news/local ... 5ff176ab2c
Btw, conservatism takes away liberties of Americans. The Mayflower compact was created because it turned out the Pilgrims weren't able to set up a theocracy after non-religious sailors decided to become fishermen instead staying onboard ship. I actually agree about foreign intervention and debt.
cruzan_flame13 wrote:puttincomputers wrote: ↑November 28th, 2020, 9:55 pmAlso, you're fine with foreign intervention in national we don't have any business being involved in and debt amongst citizens? Wow, that says a lot.cruzan_flame13 wrote:It really doesn't matter who gets in because they'll be more bills that take away Americans liberties plus more funding in U.S. foreign intervention. The U.S. debt continue to increase along with individually debt that Americans do not know or care about (https://usdebtclock.org).I actually agree about foreign intervention and debt.
puttincomputers wrote: ↑November 28th, 2020, 10:58 pmYou might want to add 'you' if you agreed because that could've been taken the other way . I don't care about the truth? I will spin any statements? A bit over exaggerated don't you think? Maybe not based on that statement. Did you minor in theatrics by any chance? ; I'm just kidding.cruzan_flame13 wrote:puttincomputers wrote: ↑November 28th, 2020, 9:55 pmAlso, you're fine with foreign intervention in national we don't have any business being involved in and debt amongst citizens? Wow, that says a lot.
I actually agree about foreign intervention and debt.
Woah! It is beginning to be painfully obvious that you don't care about the truth and will spin any statement to suit your biased worldview! I literally agreed with you about foreign intervention and debt, and you claimed I said the opposite.
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stokesjokes wrote:What’s telling to me is that these aren’t liberals pushing the “nothing to see here” narrative. These are conservatives, people who voted for Trump, even.it will be interesting to see what its like as we go farther down the road. remember Pelosi and her ilk were not on board with all that craziness until we were a few years in. The difference here though to me is that he won't be in office. He may set up his own "oval office" somewhere in florida but technically powerless.
These are Trump appointed judges throwing out his cases with prejudice. It’s Brian Kemp and the GA sec of state who said his entire family voted for Trump. It’s Bill freaking Barr.
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