[TH Spangler]

Grudem summed it up. I'm praying for the Trump "administrations" 2nd term.

https://www.christianpost.com/voices/a- ... trump.html

Americans are perfectly free to say, “Trump’s boastfulness offends me and I don’t want to act that way myself.” But if laws are passed (and upheld by the courts) that enforce the LGBT agenda, no creative professional like a cake decorator (or photographer or florist) will be free to say, “I believe same-sex marriage is morally wrong, and I won’t use my artistic talent to decorate a cake celebrating same-sex marriage.” No high school girl will be free to say, “I won’t undress and change clothes for my gym class because there are boys in the locker room who claim to be girls.” No Christian adoption agency will be free to say, “We will not place children with same-sex couples.”

Trump has done a good job defending a churches right to only perform biblical marriages between a man and women. And for Christians to not have to partacatape in marriages outside of biblical marriage if it's against their religious belief. At the same time he stands behind an individuals civil right by law to enter into a same sex civil union. Hes appointing judges that are capable of doing the same thing.

[stokesjokes]

Sure, but these are things that aren’t in danger. These are tools that have been used to motivate Christians out of fear.

[stokesjokes]

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/am ... democrats/

I thought this was interesting as it's been discussed here: both Democrats and Republicans are polling as enthusiastic about voting this year, but Democrats are polling at 9 points higher in enthusiasm than Republicans. Conversely, only 48% of Democrats are actually enthusiastic about Biden, while 77% of Republicans are enthusiastic about Trump.

So this tells me 2 things: Trump's base is more fired up than Biden's, hence the big disparity in their rallys. However, the enthusiasm about voting against Trump seems to be more of a motivator than has been given credit for.

[Jonathan Carone]

So this tells me 2 things: Trump's base is more fired up than Biden's, hence the big disparity in their rallys. However, the enthusiasm about voting against Trump seems to be more of a motivator than has been given credit for.

This is the sole reason I've thought Biden would win.

[TH Spangler]

So this tells me 2 things: Trump's base is more fired up than Biden's, hence the big disparity in their rallys. However, the enthusiasm about voting against Trump seems to be more of a motivator than has been given credit for.

This is the sole reason I've thought Biden would win.

We'll see. I'm seeing NC numbers indicating Trump is going to do better than his 6 point win last year.

Win or lose this is Trumps party now and it's not your Dad's rep party. He has reinvented it. It's a conservative, populist party. It will only get stronger as minorities join with evangelicals and the white working class. Old establishment is on the outside looking in now.

[stokesjokes]

Where are you seeing those numbers? fivethirtyeight keeps a pretty comprehensive list of polls, I don’t see anything close to what you’re saying.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/po ... -carolina/

[stokesjokes]

And if Trump does lose, you have to expect a pretty extensive look at the direction of the party. It may currently be “Trump’s party”, but that could change quickly.

[jbock13]

Populist doesn’t always mean conservative.

[TH Spangler]

Trump was the wrecking ball to the old rep party. Post Trump will be someone with the same goals for our nation, but will be able articulate it in a softer tone .... now that the old guard rep establishment is out of the way. That person will need Trumps endorsement. Ted Cruz, Mike Pence, Tim Scott?

[paradox]

I'm not so sure that Nate Silver carries the weight that he once did. If I remember correctly, he had Trump with a 30% chance to win late in the campaign back in 2016. As a result, Silver took tremendous heat from the left. He caved under the pressure and moved the number into the low single digits. I believe that it was the Huff Post that was most infuriated as they pushed something like a 1-2% chance at best. Kinda hard to take him seriously after that.

[stokesjokes]

I’m not sure what you’re talking about with Nate Silver. On election night, he gave Trump a 28% chance of winning. If anything, he’s had to change his formula to more heavily weigh the republican side to make up for the 2016 error.

Edit: here’s the 2016 stats: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/20 ... -forecast/

Curious where you got the idea that he “moved it into the single digits”

[thepostman]

Also 28% chance to win means there is still a chance. That is how probabilities work.

[stokesjokes]

Yeah, Silver gave Trump more of a chance than most.

[rtb72]

He doesn't need to shake anyone down for money under the table when he can force US and foreign government agencies and officials stay at or do business at his hotels and golf courses at the expense of the taxpayers.

Is this happening? First I heard of this.

Yes, it’s only been reported all over the internet and news for four years now.

Yeah....cause everything on the internet is true. Government contracts and direct bill generally dictate where US officials stay, at least LEOs. Not sure where you info is from, but if all you're reading and depending on is the net...you might want to find a more credible source.

[rtb72]

And if Trump does lose, you have to expect a pretty extensive look at the direction of the party. It may currently be “Trump’s party”, but that could change quickly.

I think if Trump loses...you might expect a pretty extensive look at the direction of the country.

[TH Spangler]

Yea, Trump needs to go. Give me Biden.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/st ... i-BB1aA4jF

[paradox]

It's crazy to think that Biden could win the youth vote, while his proposals only weaken their prospects, now and in the future. Can't imagine going through my college days with these irrational restrictions--and then, actually voting for it.

[TH Spangler]

Sounds like cities are preparing for the demacrates to turn lose the violent left if their canadate loses. Sad

[lynchburgwildcats]

Wow. With all the stuff coming out on the Bidens, if he's elected this country deserves to fail.

On the laptop from hell, prof of millions of dollars passing under the table for influence ... leading to the transfure of our technologies and manufacturing. Basically Biden was a king pin in the pay to play, offshoring the past 30 years.

Not to mention rumors of child porn and pedophilia on it. This was just reported on Bartiromo Fox Business program. If it's there it will come out. Multiple copies of the harddrive are out there. China having copies of the child stuff also discussed on Bartiromo show this morning.

God help us?

Where do you get your news from, Facebook and memes? There’s a reason even Fox News didn’t run with it and the NY Post or whatever tabloid rag that ran with it had difficulty getting people to put their name on the byline

[lynchburgwildcats]

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/am ... democrats/

I thought this was interesting as it's been discussed here: both Democrats and Republicans are polling as enthusiastic about voting this year, but Democrats are polling at 9 points higher in enthusiasm than Republicans. Conversely, only 48% of Democrats are actually enthusiastic about Biden, while 77% of Republicans are enthusiastic about Trump.

So this tells me 2 things: Trump's base is more fired up than Biden's, hence the big disparity in their rallys. However, the enthusiasm about voting against Trump seems to be more of a motivator than has been given credit for.

I said weeks ago it was a factor only to get ridiculously dismissed for it. The hate for Hillary was one of the big reasons that propelled Trump to victory four years ago.

[lynchburgwildcats]

So this tells me 2 things: Trump's base is more fired up than Biden's, hence the big disparity in their rallys. However, the enthusiasm about voting against Trump seems to be more of a motivator than has been given credit for.

This is the sole reason I've thought Biden would win.

We'll see. I'm seeing NC numbers indicating Trump is going to do better than his 6 point win last year.

Win or lose this is Trumps party now and it's not your Dad's rep party. He has reinvented it. It's a conservative, populist party. It will only get stronger as minorities join with evangelicals and the white working class. Old establishment is on the outside looking in now.

It’s a far right fascist party, actually

[olldflame]

This is the sole reason I've thought Biden would win.

We'll see. I'm seeing NC numbers indicating Trump is going to do better than his 6 point win last year.

Win or lose this is Trumps party now and it's not your Dad's rep party. He has reinvented it. It's a conservative, populist party. It will only get stronger as minorities join with evangelicals and the white working class. Old establishment is on the outside looking in now.

It’s a far right fascist party, actually

It's pretty apparent you have no idea what fascism is.

[TH Spangler]

Wildcats you need to turn off MSNBC for a while

[stokesjokes]

The Republicans are about as fascist as the Democrats are Marxist, which is to say, neither of those things are true.

[stokesjokes]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... publicans/

Although this is not unlike fascism