[Purple Haize]

What does any of this have to do with Jerry Jr?

Are we talking about Jerry's theology? If so there is so much we could dive into there.

Since he’s not a Pastor, nor claims to be one does his theology even matter? Does he even have the credentials to be thought of as an Evangelical leader? He’s claimed he doesn’t. Most University Presidents have a PhD or EdD, sure he has a JD but does that qualify him to run an academic organization?

[thepostman]

In my opinion, his theology does matter. If he was leading almost any other organization I'd agree with you but he isn't. He can't just dismiss anything spiritual because he isn't a pastor. That statement he made last year was the tipping point for me.

[LUAlum1215]

What does any of this have to do with Jerry Jr?

Are we talking about Jerry's theology? If so there is so much we could dive into there.

Since he’s not a Pastor, nor claims to be one does his theology even matter? Does he even have the credentials to be thought of as an Evangelical leader? He’s claimed he doesn’t. Most University Presidents have a PhD or EdD, sure he has a JD but does that qualify him to run an academic organization?

I think Jr is qualified to run a University, but question if he's qualified to run a Christian university. Educational credentials are not and should not be the only metric qualifications are based on, experiences to include success and failures should be heavily if not evenly weighed. My dad was an 8th grade dropout who opened his own repair shop and over 30 years went out of business once and rebuilt into over 1 million in revenue per year in a county with less population than LU has enrolled residentially. He has grown into one of the leading businessmen in his city with the only formal education being a GED. That to say, professional accomplishments can't be undervalued. Jerry has shown the ability to build financial stability and employ quality, accomplished people to teach and lead the individual schools across campus. While the faith aspect may not be as clear I think he's qualified to operate an institution of higher education. I just hope it's not this one any longer.

[Just John]

I was researching her. That's the first article that popped up. She looks legit. Got her start by blowing the whistle on Moody Bible Institute.

Super Jon knows all

I am editing my original post here that lumped Roys in with many other "Discernment Ministries" I am certainly not fond of. Looking at her site more thoroughly, although I think she is a bit of a gadfly and busy body, she does not appear to be what I originally characterized her as.

[Just John]

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[Purple Haize]

What does any of this have to do with Jerry Jr?

Are we talking about Jerry's theology? If so there is so much we could dive into there.

Since he’s not a Pastor, nor claims to be one does his theology even matter? Does he even have the credentials to be thought of as an Evangelical leader? He’s claimed he doesn’t. Most University Presidents have a PhD or EdD, sure he has a JD but does that qualify him to run an academic organization?

I think Jr is qualified to run a University, but question if he's qualified to run a Christian university. Educational credentials are not and should not be the only metric qualifications are based on, experiences to include success and failures should be heavily if not evenly weighed. My dad was an 8th grade dropout who opened his own repair shop and over 30 years went out of business once and rebuilt into over 1 million in revenue per year in a county with less population than LU has enrolled residentially. He has grown into one of the leading businessmen in his city with the only formal education being a GED. That to say, professional accomplishments can't be undervalued. Jerry has shown the ability to build financial stability and employ quality, accomplished people to teach and lead the individual schools across campus. While the faith aspect may not be as clear I think he's qualified to operate an institution of higher education. I just hope it's not this one any longer.

Absolutely love that story of your father. It also kinda defeats your point. Your dad made a successful repair shop business I’m assuming because he was good at repairing whatever it was he was repairing. Up on the latest trends and able to provide value and quality not to mention customer service. Your dad became successful in a field Repairs that he knew about. He did not become successful in a field he did not know about

[Jonathan Carone]

Wow. Didn’t expect to spend the last couple pages reading about me and my theology. Ok then.

I’ve been on vacation this past week. As much as I like you all, I try to not post here or on social while on vacation.

The anonymous source was not me. I changed my profile on here to be my name with my face because I wanted the accountability of not being anonymous.

The information they shared is very interesting though. It actually raises more questions than it answers.

[LUAlum1215]

Since he’s not a Pastor, nor claims to be one does his theology even matter? Does he even have the credentials to be thought of as an Evangelical leader? He’s claimed he doesn’t. Most University Presidents have a PhD or EdD, sure he has a JD but does that qualify him to run an academic organization?

I think Jr is qualified to run a University, but question if he's qualified to run a Christian university. Educational credentials are not and should not be the only metric qualifications are based on, experiences to include success and failures should be heavily if not evenly weighed. My dad was an 8th grade dropout who opened his own repair shop and over 30 years went out of business once and rebuilt into over 1 million in revenue per year in a county with less population than LU has enrolled residentially. He has grown into one of the leading businessmen in his city with the only formal education being a GED. That to say, professional accomplishments can't be undervalued. Jerry has shown the ability to build financial stability and employ quality, accomplished people to teach and lead the individual schools across campus. While the faith aspect may not be as clear I think he's qualified to operate an institution of higher education. I just hope it's not this one any longer.

Absolutely love that story of your father. It also kinda defeats your point. Your dad made a successful repair shop business I’m assuming because he was good at repairing whatever it was he was repairing. Up on the latest trends and able to provide value and quality not to mention customer service. Your dad became successful in a field Repairs that he knew about. He did not become successful in a field he did not know about

I think it's safe to say that Jr has some insight on the business of education. Having grown up in the business so to speak, he nor anyone else needs a PhD in higher education management or whatever other area of study to lead a large organization regardless of what type of organization it is. The best leaders excel in what they know and surround themselves with people who excel in things they themselves do not know. Has Jr done that? From the outside looking in I'd say yes. I know for a fact the business school and government school were both staffed with incredible professors and administrators while I was a student in both schools. I'm familiar with a few names in the executive administration of the school now but I don't know enough about them and their backgrounds to give educated commentary on if their a good fit or not. To the extent Jr hired family and friends to high up jobs, that probably isn't the best sign of a great leader due to implicit bias of hiring friends/family. Those hires are typically made with hopes of molding people into their jobs, not hiring the best qualified for the job. In that aspect Jr has probably fallen short, and in the aspect of owning the furtherance of the mission he's definitely fallen flat, but from a fiscal standpoint he's done alright I'd say. So maybe he's not the most qualified to lead any university, maybe he is, but my argument that you don't need a PhD to lead a college still stands.

[flameshaw]

No problem. Was just wondering if it could be our social justice super warrior. All of a sudden he went silent.

He takes breaks every once in awhile when he gets to vested in the board. That’s admirable. Plus I’m sure he knows a lot of things he can’t share. Regardless whoever sent them that info was not out of line and doing so anonymously was absolutely justified

I agree. I kinda hope it was him. The lady seems legit. Maybe JC will listen to her on social justice theology. I also noticed she comes down hard on churches and church leaders that cave to the LGBT agenda.

https://julieroys.com/the-gender-agenda ... -near-you/

I would say someone has some good sources.

[Purple Haize]

@LUAlum1215 the business of education? I’m not too sure of that. The business of real estate, contract law etc? Absolutely. There’s a lot more to running a University than putting up buildings etc. Which he’s done a good job. The biggest feather in his cap is keeping the place afloat, his dad out of trouble and having a sizeable “endowment”. That has a lot to do with Business but not a lot to do with Education. He grew up and got his knowledge and experience in the realm of Law and Business. Not in Education. Maybe the closest parallel I can draw is the difference between Sales and Service. You don’t necessarily want your best salesman running your service department or vice versa

[Jonathan Carone]

Now, some of the images Falwell has “liked” on Instagram are raising eyebrows.

Religion News Service has verified that Falwell has liked a handful of images posted on the social media platform that show young women in swimsuits in the past month.

One is a photo of model Stefanie Gurzanski, who has appeared on the covers of Cosmopolitan Mexico and Maxim Mexico, posed across the back of a couch in a black one-piece suit and leopard-print high-heeled boots.

Another is an ambassador for conservative student movement Turning Point USA who pairs photos of herself in swimsuits with political memes and patriotic or inspirational Christian captions.

While young women posting swimsuit selfies is an innocent Instagram activity, liking them is “certainly unbecoming for the president of, as he calls it, the largest Christian college in the United States,” Fea said.

https://religionnews.com/2020/08/15/fal ... president/

[Purple Haize]

Now, some of the images Falwell has “liked” on Instagram are raising eyebrows.

Religion News Service has verified that Falwell has liked a handful of images posted on the social media platform that show young women in swimsuits in the past month.

One is a photo of model Stefanie Gurzanski, who has appeared on the covers of Cosmopolitan Mexico and Maxim Mexico, posed across the back of a couch in a black one-piece suit and leopard-print high-heeled boots.

Another is an ambassador for conservative student movement Turning Point USA who pairs photos of herself in swimsuits with political memes and patriotic or inspirational Christian captions.

While young women posting swimsuit selfies is an innocent Instagram activity, liking them is “certainly unbecoming for the president of, as he calls it, the largest Christian college in the United States,” Fea said.

https://religionnews.com/2020/08/15/fal ... president/

Seriously?

[thepostman]

This has been discussed for a while in other Liberty online communities. Again, it isn't the worst thing in the world but just another warning sign that he may not be rhe best fit to lead a Christian university.

[TH Spangler]

Now, some of the images Falwell has “liked” on Instagram are raising eyebrows.

Religion News Service has verified that Falwell has liked a handful of images posted on the social media platform that show young women in swimsuits in the past month.

One is a photo of model Stefanie Gurzanski, who has appeared on the covers of Cosmopolitan Mexico and Maxim Mexico, posed across the back of a couch in a black one-piece suit and leopard-print high-heeled boots.

Another is an ambassador for conservative student movement Turning Point USA who pairs photos of herself in swimsuits with political memes and patriotic or inspirational Christian captions.

While young women posting swimsuit selfies is an innocent Instagram activity, liking them is “certainly unbecoming for the president of, as he calls it, the largest Christian college in the United States,” Fea said.

https://religionnews.com/2020/08/15/fal ... president/

First thing I do when I read a hit piece about anyone or anything is look at the author's other articles for political bias.

Emily McFarlan Miller

5 faith facts about Biden VP contender Sen. Elizabeth Warren — a former Methodist Sunday School teacher

https://religionnews.com/2020/08/11/fai ... l-teacher/

[Jonathan Carone]

Does the author’s other stances make the facts any less true?

[thepostman]

Ahhh, so we ignore all the facts that can not even be argued because the author wrote an article about a Democrat.

Sound logic.

[TH Spangler]

Ahhh, so we ignore all the facts that can not even be argued because the author wrote an article about a Democrat.

Sound logic.

If a political hack says its fact on the internet, it got to be true.

[Jonathan Carone]

So unless someone is in agreement with everything I say, nothing they say can be true and it is all politically motivated. Got it.

[Class of 20Something]

So unless someone is in agreement with everything I say, nothing they say can be true and it is all politically motivated. Got it.

Cancel culture is stupid no matter who is cancelled.

[TH Spangler]

So unless someone is in agreement with everything I say, nothing they say can be true and it is all politically motivated. Got it.

Ballcoach told me you can't believe anything a demacrate says.

[cruzan_flame13]

Can we just all get along?

[Purple Haize]

So unless someone is in agreement with everything I say, nothing they say can be true and it is all politically motivated. Got it.

Ballcoach told me you can't believe anything a demacrate says.

The funny thing is you’re joking and he’s serious

[thepostman]

Ahhh, so we ignore all the facts that can not even be argued because the author wrote an article about a Democrat.

Sound logic.

If a political hack says its fact on the internet, it got to be true.

You must be trolling. At least I hope you are.

I'll explain it to you just in case you aren't. What someone likes/follows on social media platforms is captured for the world to see. It has been confirmed that Jerry indeed follows and likes some questionable content. It can't be argued. It has been known for a while and discussed in other places. It is also really easy to find for yourself (I am not going to post it here because the images aren't exactly PG rated) unless you desire to be willfully ignorant because you don't like democrats that much.

Hopefully you are just being troll and giggling to yourself that you just got a rise from me. That would at least make me feel better.

[LUAlum1215]

@LUAlum1215 the business of education? I’m not too sure of that. The business of real estate, contract law etc? Absolutely. There’s a lot more to running a University than putting up buildings etc. Which he’s done a good job. The biggest feather in his cap is keeping the place afloat, his dad out of trouble and having a sizeable “endowment”. That has a lot to do with Business but not a lot to do with Education. He grew up and got his knowledge and experience in the realm of Law and Business. Not in Education. Maybe the closest parallel I can draw is the difference between Sales and Service. You don’t necessarily want your best salesman running your service department or vice versa

That's valid. I guess I don't fully understand the intricacies of running a university from the education standpoint. I keep going back to being a good leader and managing the things you're good at while delegating things you're not as strong at to those who are. That goes across any industry, so I don't see why it can't work in education.

[ballah09]

From a conservative news source.

By the time the school put Falwell on indefinite leave last week, Rockey said, he, and many Liberty students along with him, felt like their support, and the hope that the embattled president would improve, was "blinded and naive."

Lusenge was determined to speak up after Falwell referred to Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam as "Governor Blackface" in a tweet mocking his mask mandate. Lusenge, an immigrant from Congo via Kenya, helped spearhead a statement calling on Falwell to apologize for connecting Northam's racism scandal to mask-wearing. But, as with the Charlottesville statement, nearly every student backed out, not wanting to ruffle too many feathers.

So, Lusenge says, she confronted Falwell about it personally. To her surprise, Falwell tried to explain his tweet and seemed to struggle to see where he had gone wrong. The conversation left Lusenge "jaded" because, she said, Falwell was "out of touch" with how people at the school felt about his actions.

"It showed me how misunderstood he is, but also how little he understands about these situations," she said.

But, Lusenge added, the experience proved ultimately encouraging, because shortly afterward, Falwell met with black leaders at the school and issued a public apology for the "hurt" he had caused within the community.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news ... leadership


Jr losing his pro jerry students. I think at this point, the only people that support him is his TUSA buddies.