[Ill flame]

I don't really get the big 10 hate. They are consistently the second best conference in football and are the best basketball conference this year. Usually going back and forth between them and the ACC.

[Liberty22]

SEC at the top + B1G not even listed = Ballcoach list

Lol didn’t even realize I left them off. They were 3rd between Big 12 and PAC 12 haha

SEC
Big 12
Big 10
PAC 12
AAC
ACC
MW
SB
IND
CUSA
MAC

https://masseyratings.com/cf/compare.htm

[thepostman]

I don't really get the big 10 hate. They are consistently the second best conference in football and are the best basketball conference this year. Usually going back and forth between them and the ACC.

Ballcoach has is biases and has a hard time looking at anything objectively. The Big 10 is consistantly the 2nd or 3rd best football conference by most metrics.

I mean I think the SEC is severely overrated but that is just my opinion and so I can't parade it around as fact. The numbers don't lie and prove that they are consistently the best football conference. Proving my bias wrong.

[ballcoach15]

I hate Big 10 for several reasons:

Over rated most seasons

They are not in the South or Southeast part of the nation

Their Commissioner and the conference holds the playoffs and bowl system hostage by insisting the Rose Bowl has to be played on a certain date and time. Every other bowl game and playoff game has to be scheduled around Rose Bowl.
Rose Bowl most years is worst bowl game of them all.

[Liberty22]

I hate Big 10 for several reasons:

Over rated most seasons

They are not in the South or Southeast part of the nation

Their Commissioner and the conference holds the playoffs and bowl system hostage by insisting the Rose Bowl has to be played on a certain date and time. Every other bowl game and playoff game has to be scheduled around Rose Bowl.
Rose Bowl most years is worst bowl game of them all.

So is this the case for other things too like people groups, businesses, resorts? Just trying to gauge what all you don’t like based on geographical location.

[olldflame]

I hate Big 10 for several reasons:

Over rated most seasons

They are not in the South or Southeast part of the nation

Their Commissioner and the conference holds the playoffs and bowl system hostage by insisting the Rose Bowl has to be played on a certain date and time. Every other bowl game and playoff game has to be scheduled around Rose Bowl.
Rose Bowl most years is worst bowl game of them all.

The Rose Bowl has been played on New Year's Day since 1902, long before the playoff system existed. That's called a tradition.

If someone or something is "overrated", is that their fault? Are they supposed to argue with the people who "overrate" them?

As far as not being Southern is concerned, all I can say is, sorry, but we had this thing called the Civil War, and the Union won, so we are all in the same country. Deal with it.

[Geraldos Mustache]

I hate Big 10 for several reasons:

Over rated most seasons

They are not in the South or Southeast part of the nation

Their Commissioner and the conference holds the playoffs and bowl system hostage by insisting the Rose Bowl has to be played on a certain date and time. Every other bowl game and playoff game has to be scheduled around Rose Bowl.
Rose Bowl most years is worst bowl game of them all.

Being new to the ASOR Board, I have wondered why "Ballcoach15" has received so much negativity by other posters.
Now I understand why...

[thepostman]

I wouldn't mind ballcoach's posts so much if he started every post with this disclaimer:

The following post is merely my opinion. I have taken zero time to research the validity of my claims. Thank you.

[Class of 20Something]

I think the the AAC is not far off. I could see an announcement to either a full membership or an football only/ND style deal to fill the bottom of our strength of schedule. We are currently neutered in October and November to who we can schedule because everyone is on conference play. Having even a 6 game tie in in that time period raises our SOS by a lot.

Softball RPI
Liberty 55
AAC has 4 schools above and 4 below us.

Baseball RPI
Liberty 40
AAC has 2 schools above and 7 below

Football FPI
Liberty 97
AAC has 10 above us and 2 below including UConn leaving.

MBasketball NET
Liberty 24
AAC has 1 above us and 11 below.

WBasketball RPI
Liberty 103
AAC has 4 above us and 8 below us.

Basketball is our best asset while Football is our worst of the major sports.

We are a better asset to them as an all sports member than football only.

[ballcoach15]

I believe we are better across the board in "all sports", than most non P5 schools. And we are better than some P5s

[thepostman]

@Class of 20Something, great data. I love the idea of joining the AAC but in the past I thought our basketball would hold us back. That is clearly not the case anymore. The AAC prefers larger markets so that'll be something to think about. But for me, the AAC would be the best case scenario.

[TH Spangler]

Heres some speculation on Boise State, conf talk.

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/ncaa-fo ... 2pgn7gqqxc

[ballcoach15]

Sounds as if Boise wants to be like Notre Dame. Receive special treatment, not given to other schools.
Does Boise play any sport other than football ?

Boise's geographical location limits their options in my opinion.
They should stay in Mountain West.

[Liberty22]

“ The Broncos have a 165-34 over the last 15 years, third-best in the FBS behind only Ohio State (171-28) and Alabama (173-32).”

I would have never guessed this!

[cruzan_flame13]

Are we in trouble in the upcoming years? The UAC? Ruh Roh...

[R i]

AAC would be the ideal destination for LU, but would we take CUSA and SunBelt Invites at this point ? I change my opinion daily.

[cruzan_flame13]

Seems a bit canny that the ASUN is doing this. I'm not going to overthink this but this is not a coincidence that they're proposing this. Looks like a little threat to us lol

[R i]

Lets overthink it. How is this a threat to us?

[cruzan_flame13]

Lets overthink it. How is this a threat to us?

I just feel like this a push for us to be all in for the ASUN. Not saying this is bad (since we have no other conference calling us) but it kinda rubbed me the wrong way when I read the article. Again, could be overthinking this lol.

[Ill flame]

I would also be interested in joining the A10 or big east too if they came calling. As much as I enjoy us dominating the asun at several sports. I think it'll be time to move on by 2023 when this will supposably happen.

[ballah09]

They are basically kicking us, UNA and Bellarmine out. At least they are being nice about it and forming a new conference where we can still compete for tournament births.


Who joins? High Point? Campbell, Gardner-Webb? I think it's obvious a few BSouth schools are going to be moving.

[R i]

I hate to go back to our "we are too good for this league" attitude like we had in the Big South. But we are too good for this league.

Baseball, Basketball, and a few others.

[Ill flame]

At this point I would prefer the Missouri valley over the asun even though we belong in that conference about as much as UCF belongs in the MAC. At least they have a good basketball culture and aren't terrible at some of the other sports

[A Sea of Red]

ASUN plans to expand to 20 teams, create new conference

https://www.aseaofred.com/asun-plans-to ... onference/

[Liberty22]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Cf ... obilebasic

Here’s a google doc with more information regarding this ASUN announcement someone posted on csnbbs. Found this interesting.

Do you anticipate other conferences will follow the ASUN lead in developing new conferences?

I don’t, for a number of reasons. One, we are the only Division I conference in our footprint that does not sponsor football. That means we are the only one that can start football. The ability to build a new football conference primarily in the southeast is a dominant factor. A second key factor is that the ASUN is well versed in conference realignment and we recognize the need to be innovative, to be bold, and to meet the real market demands of the institutions and their students. Thankfully, we are blessed with a visionary set of Presidents that are willing to have an eye focused on the future. I also think there is a strong possibility that the steps we are executing may trigger some change in the future. The NCAA is studying its championship financial model, the role of Automatic Qualification in championship field size and selection, and it would be a natural reaction after our announcement for some form of moratorium to be put in place.

EDIT* Turns out its FCS football so we will obviously not be part of this moving forward. So looks like we will have a new conference as late as 2023.