Moderators: jcmanson, Sly Fox, BuryYourDuke, Class of 20Something
ballcoach15 wrote:I think LU would beat VTDidn't you say the same about UVa?
Nate-FlamesFan wrote:Hey all, new poster here.Where is this Waffle House
I work at the newer waffle house across from campus and I get to talk to some of the players. Pulling from those conversations, it really does seem like a lot of them feel the playcalling is a major issue. And understandably, they are pretty frustrated. That might explain some of the poor effort plays we've seen.
rogers3 wrote:Remember he has High Up #sourcesballcoach15 wrote:I think LU would beat VTDidn't you say the same about UVa?
WE BEAT COASTAL rtb72 wrote:Want to offer a different perspective. One has to go back to the root cause of the problem. As much as i would like to, I don't see TG blaming this on the QB. The play was called to be an option, based on how the defense lined up, not on what Calvert thought was the best way to execute ie. pass or run. I do not believe TG is trying to throw Buckshot under the bus and blame him for passing the ball.Jonathan Carone wrote:1) Where the ball goes on a 4th down play on your own 14 yard line should be the responsibility of the highly compensated coaching staff who is paid to make those decisions.THIS! So TG left it up to the QB for a 4th down and inches on your own 14? Then, makes it clear whose call it was. This bothers me. Take some d^&% ownership of your place as a leader! Stop with the "it's so and so's fault! Winning season or not...this seems to happen to much and is not the mark of an effective leader.
2) Those same coaches have recruited and coached the quarterback and should know his game management and football intellect limits.
That terrible decision falls completely on the coaching staff no matter how much they want to throw the player under the bus.
jinxy wrote:That comment effectively throws the qb under the bus. Take the decision out of his hands. Further, what if we pick up the first down. Oh we only have 86 more yards for a td. That field position right after we finally got a stop was truly unbelievable.I remember.
Probert had no shot on the 51 yarder against the wind. That was a time we should have went for it. Typical totally backwards.
Also, remember right before season gill and wimbo said weve never had this kind of competition. We can truly go 2 and 3 deep af most spots. Now suddenly its a personnel issue and were not deep enough.
Every week hes showing another reason of why the move has to be made.
With only 7 commits and about 5 who you really care about securing i think gill is starting to feel the heat again.
If we come out of the offseason with anything less than a d coordinator change i will have no faith in leadership. Id still make the full move if it were me but anything less than a D shakeup is just a joke.
CCWMichael wrote:He thinks he had no control over the outcome.He has repeatedly said we leave the outcome up to our Lord and savior Jesus Christ.
Jonathan Carone wrote:Way to take that out of context.CCWMichael wrote:He thinks he had no control over the outcome.He has repeatedly said we leave the outcome up to our Lord and savior Jesus Christ.
flameshaw wrote: Want to offer a different perspective. One has to go back to the root cause of the problem. As much as i would like to, I don't see TG blaming this on the QB. The play was called to be an option, based on how the defense lined up, not on what Calvert thought was the best way to execute ie. pass or run. I do not believe TG is trying to throw Buckshot under the bus and blame him for passing the ball.This was well stated and I used the bold feature on one specific statement for emphasis.
HOWEVER, the root cause of the problem is that there never should have been any call made, except to punt the ball. TG made the decision not to, which as stated earlier, I believe to be the dumbest call I have ever seen in watching/playing football for more than 55 years. TG is responsible 100% for the eventual outcome.
--Fumble (1961-2009), RIPJonathan Carone wrote:1) Where the ball goes on a 4th down play on your own 14 yard line should be the responsibility of the highly compensated coaching staff who is paid to make those decisions.this 110%
2) Those same coaches have recruited and coached the quarterback and should know his game management and football intellect limits.
That terrible decision falls completely on the coaching staff no matter how much they want to throw the player under the bus.
Cider Jim wrote:I was out of town working, so I never saw the game, but I have to ask two questions:1, I recall and read that it was early in the 3rd quarter.
1. How much time was left in the game when we went for it on fourth down from our own 14 yard line?
2. What was the score when this happened?
Jonathan Carone wrote:1) Where the ball goes on a 4th down play on your own 14 yard line should be the responsibility of the highly compensated coaching staff who is paid to make those decisions.I know I only mentioned Buckshot in my post but that was relating to his choice between Peyton and AGG. What you said is more of the deep rooted problem with our staff and I totally agree with you here.
2) Those same coaches have recruited and coached the quarterback and should know his game management and football intellect limits.
That terrible decision falls completely on the coaching staff no matter how much they want to throw the player under the bus.
Jonathan Carone wrote:https://www.liberty.edu/flames/index.cf ... 7&teamID=9CCWMichael wrote:He thinks he had no control over the outcome.He has repeatedly said we leave the outcome up to our Lord and savior Jesus Christ.
WE BEAT COASTAL Pilotguy24 wrote:I was expecting us to lose. It followed the script ofWondering the same thing. I’m over 7 hours away from UVA, 445 miles away and they blacked it out at my house.
1) Terrible defense, especially the linebackers and secondary
a. Also does anyone on our team know how to tackle or mark their man??
2) Buckshot forcing throws into double coverage resulting in needless INTs
3) Absolutely ridiculous playcalling on both sides of the ball
a. Everyone in the world except Buckshot would’ve run for it on 4th and 1
I turned it off after UVA went up by 14 in the 3rd. We didn’t even give ourselves a chance. Like others on this forum have said, we have the talent to beat anyone but the coaching to lose to everyone.
Why in the world was this game blacked out on ACCN on ESPN? I watched it at a friend’s house on FOX College Sports Florida. Super frustrating initially but glad I was able to watch a little bit of the game. Hope it doesn’t happen next week.
These growing pains into the FBS are hard to live with but I have hope we will actually win these games in the future. Being potentially 6-6 has definitely exceeded my expectations for the season but knowing we could be 8-4 will make it hard to deal with wishing we could’ve gone to Orlando.
BuryYourDuke wrote:You guys have really got to learn how to use VPN.Are you cyber stalking people like Jon?
Liberty22 wrote:The game was blacked out in areas on WatchESPN in regions where the regional sports network carried the game. So if you were in an area where Fox College Sports Florida was showing the game on cable, they weren't giving up the rights to allow ESPN to show the game online in their coverage area.Pilotguy24 wrote: Why in the world was this game blacked out on ACCN on ESPN? I watched it at a friend’s house on FOX College Sports Florida. Super frustrating initially but glad I was able to watch a little bit of the game. Hope it doesn’t happen next week.Wondering the same thing. I’m over 7 hours away from UVA, 445 miles away and they blacked it out at my house.
- By jbock13
- By Sly Fox
- By TH Spangler
- By LU Armchair coach