[Class of 20Something]

How about this. I will absolutely never tailgate a kickoff prior to 3 pm. I just cannot get 4 families organized and in place to get everything up, eat, and tore down and be in the stadium before the band enters. Not to mention the campus needs to turn into football mode on game day. The radio show needs to be on every speaker on campus before and after the game. And I have to miss some of GameDay if I tailgate an early game.

A perfect Saturday is watching all of GameDay, getting a tailgate together by about 1:30, playing a few rounds of corn hole, throwing a football around, arguing about the team with my brother, taking the VSP officer at the light some water and a burger, realizing we have enough food for three tailgates. Clean up, leave a bag of trash next to our car, and waddle up to the stadium about an hour to kickoff, and watching the Flames win another one. Go home and put a finally exhausted toddler in bed.

[Liberty22]

How about this. I will absolutely never tailgate a kickoff prior to 3 pm. I just cannot get 4 families organized and in place to get everything up, eat, and tore down and be in the stadium before the band enters. Not to mention the campus needs to turn into football mode on game day. The radio show needs to be on every speaker on campus before and after the game. And I have to miss some of GameDay if I tailgate an early game.

A perfect Saturday is watching all of GameDay, getting a tailgate together by about 1:30, playing a few rounds of corn hole, throwing a football around, arguing about the team with my brother, taking the VSP officer at the light some water and a burger, realizing we have enough food for three tailgates. Clean up, leave a bag of trash next to our car, and waddle up to the stadium about an hour to kickoff, and watching the Flames win another one. Go home and put a finally exhausted toddler in bed.

For every story like yours is one like mine. I love 7pm games if I lived in the area but since I don’t and have to drive home after the games I need that 2pm start. The 7 pm games mean I don’t get home until 3am and have to be at work at 8:30. That ODU Sunday was rough.

[Cider Jim]

Okay, time for a concessions review: I paid $4 for their onion rings, and they were AMAZING. LU's onion rings are FBS ready in both taste and the huge amount you get. Almost too many for one person to eat. It looked like a group appetizer size.

[Liberty22]

Okay, time for a concessions review: I paid $4 for their onion rings, and they were AMAZING. LU's onion rings are FBS ready in both taste and the huge amount you get. Almost too many for one person to eat. It looked like a group appetizer size.

Truth. And the free refills all season long on the $10 cup is a sweet deal!

[tyndal23]

Love hearing Liberty about 6 times during 1st half of Troy/ S Bama game. Troy supposedly had the hardest week of practice in history following loss to LU.

[FlamesHighontheTide]

Virginia Tech is struggling MIGHTILY with the triple option against Georgia Tech and Virginia Tech is known for being elite at stopping the run. Even though I want VA Tech to win, I love seeing someone else other than LU get obliterated by that particular offense. It makes me for the moment feel better about our performance against Army.

[LUDad]

Talk about exceeding expections..

Computer poll showing LU ranked 80 in BCS. Started at 124 preseason (Yes, I realize they have bama at 4...but still...)

http://www.compughterratings.com/FBS/rankings

[Class of 20Something]

Talk about exceeding expections..

Computer poll showing LU ranked 80 in BCS. Started at 124 preseason (Yes, I realize they have bama at 4...but still...)

http://www.compughterratings.com/FBS/rankings

Well Bama doesn't play anyone so computers don't care if you win by 38.

[cruzan_flame13]

App State lost to Georgia Southern. College football season is getting really interesting.

[Class of 20Something]

Talk about exceeding expections..

Computer poll showing LU ranked 80 in BCS. Started at 124 preseason (Yes, I realize they have bama at 4...but still...)

http://www.compughterratings.com/FBS/rankings

Well Bama doesn't play anyone so computers don't care if you win by 38.

Yeah...totally overrated. Have you watched them play this year? They basically stop trying to score at halftime almost every game. Their QB literally hasn’t taken a snap in the 4th quarter of a game this season. Without exaggeration, they easily could have scored 100 several times this season if they wanted. We may not totally agree on the strength of the SEC (I happen to think it’s up quite a bit from the past 2 years), but the way they are beating them down like they are FCS programs is unprecedented.

As far as those old BCS computer rankings, I highly recommend Dan Wetzel’s “Death to the BCS”, particularly the chapter that deals with the absurdity of the computer polls.

More what I was Implying is that Alabamas best win is A&M. They haven't played Kentucky, Florida, LSU, Georgia inside the SEC.

Look at Notre Dame. They've played against three ranked opponents and 4 of their last five are against winning teams.

Once Bama handles LSU, I'll start cutting them some slack, but I feel that most of their praise is preseason carry over because they generally have a cupcake schedule.

I'm not knocking Saban or the talent they have, I understand the disparity between them and everyone else, but I understand why a computer ranking system would be down on them based on their strength of schedule.

[ballcoach15]

All SEC schools play toughest schedule in the country. SEC West, is tougher in itself than any other conference.

[Class of 20Something]

SEC bias is real. Go look at Michigan, Penn State, Ohio State, Washington, Stanford, West Virginia, Oklahoma, all of them will play 3+ ranked opponents this year.

I'm not saying Alabama isn't good. They're obviously the best team in college football. But their schedule is weak.

Edit.

Schedule Rankings.

Sagarin - 51 (Liberty Sched Rank 103)
Real Time RPI - 83 (Liberty Sched Rank 115)

[Yacht Rock]

I will have to say when I was at the ODU game I was pleasantly surprised with how engaged and knowledgeable the fan base on the baptist side was. I always had this idea in my head about how those guys were when I was a student and it was really not accurate.

I think LU's fan base is just like any other fan base. You have die hard fans who get it and then you have others you clearly don't.

Just my 2 cents...

but I'm just a hater so my opinion is void

Yeah, I've only been around the last five years, but the cross-section of people I've sat near at games and my observations from attending 15 games or so in the last five years is that the fans are pretty average compared to fans of other places. If anything, the thing that hurts Liberty is that it's still young and still developing fans that are unique to Liberty and not fans of Liberty as long as they aren't playing Tech or UVA, etc.

Now, are there non-football fans who go to games? Yeah, absolutely. My wife is one of them. And Liberty might bring in more entire families than other places because of the campus ban on alcohol can reduce some of the nonsense that can occur otherwise.

[LUGrad2000]

I've been to games at UVA, Wake, VA Tech, UNC, Clemson, UGA, FSU, Miami, GA Tech, Sugar and Peach bowls, Presbyterian, and USC. Liberty is as much or more fun than any of the above. Yes, they have bigger stadiums, more trading, better teams, more at stake than we currently do. That will change. You can bring your family without fear of what they may see or hear. Once we learn how to be a successful FBS fan base, we will have one of the best stadiums around. We already have a big enough student section. They just need to be taught how to yell consistently. That student section will be very tough for an opponent to deal with when they get going. We will not need to expand the stadium. If we ever fill it up, it will be just as much as a home field advantage as anyone.

[cruzan_flame13]

I've been to games at UVA, Wake, VA Tech, UNC, Clemson, UGA, FSU, Miami, GA Tech, Sugar and Peach bowls, Presbyterian, and USC. Liberty is as much or more fun than any of the above. Yes, they have bigger stadiums, more trading, better teams, more at stake than we currently do. That will change. You can bring your family without fear of what they may see or hear. Once we learn how to be a successful FBS fan base, we will have one of the best stadiums around. We already have a big enough student section. They just need to be taught how to yell consistently. That student section will be very tough for an opponent to deal with when they get going. We will not need to expand the stadium. If we ever fill it up, it will be just as much as a home field advantage as anyone.

There's already discussions (mostly just excited ideas) to expand the stadium if it fills after the expansion of the FOC and West side. I recall looking at a video during the expansion of the east side and one of the directors of construction mentioned that. I guess they just love building lol

[Class of 20Something]

I've been to games at UVA, Wake, VA Tech, UNC, Clemson, UGA, FSU, Miami, GA Tech, Sugar and Peach bowls, Presbyterian, and USC. Liberty is as much or more fun than any of the above. Yes, they have bigger stadiums, more trading, better teams, more at stake than we currently do. That will change. You can bring your family without fear of what they may see or hear. Once we learn how to be a successful FBS fan base, we will have one of the best stadiums around. We already have a big enough student section. They just need to be taught how to yell consistently. That student section will be very tough for an opponent to deal with when they get going. We will not need to expand the stadium. If we ever fill it up, it will be just as much as a home field advantage as anyone.

There's already discussions (mostly just excited ideas) to expand the stadium if it fills after the expansion of the FOC and West side. I recall looking at a video during the expansion of the east side and one of the directors of construction mentioned that. I guess they just love building lol

I don't think we "fill the bowl" until we average above 23k for three consecutive seasons. At that point, I believe the student section would be physically limited to the first 15 rows in their existing sections and wrapping around the bowl.

[A Sea of Red]

Bye week report card

http://www.aseaofred.com/bye-week-repor ... -football/

[tyndal23]

I've been to games at UVA, Wake, VA Tech, UNC, Clemson, UGA, FSU, Miami, GA Tech, Sugar and Peach bowls, Presbyterian, and USC. Liberty is as much or more fun than any of the above. Yes, they have bigger stadiums, more trading, better teams, more at stake than we currently do. That will change. You can bring your family without fear of what they may see or hear. Once we learn how to be a successful FBS fan base, we will have one of the best stadiums around. We already have a big enough student section. They just need to be taught how to yell consistently. That student section will be very tough for an opponent to deal with when they get going. We will not need to expand the stadium. If we ever fill it up, it will be just as much as a home field advantage as anyone.

Watched GA Southern last night - same size stadium and it came across as very loud on TV - ( had the roar effect of a big stadium ).

[LUDad]

Watching Houston vs. #21 S. Flordia. Houston has new 40,000 seat stadium and in 3rd qtr. its a 2 point game and it looks like the stadium is at least one third empty. I think LU's attendance, especially at this point in time, is just fine.

[Sly Fox]

I was at that stadium a couple of weeks ago and it was empty by the end of the half. Commuter schools are tough comparisons to a more residential environment like ours.

[Liberty22]

I didn’t know where else to post this but I know we’ve discussed attendance a couple times. I’m watching Ark state vs Louisiana right now and it’s a one point game and they just showed the crowd, maybe 6,000 people in the stands. Maybe. I too get frustrated at times at our attendance but we are light years ahead of many schools.

[Jonathan Carone]

I don’t think we should be comparing ourselves to other schools when it comes to attendance. We should be comparing ourselves to our past.

[tyndal23]

I didn’t know where else to post this but I know we’ve discussed attendance a couple times. I’m watching Ark state vs Louisiana right now and it’s a one point game and they just showed the crowd, maybe 6,000 people in the stands. Maybe. I too get frustrated at times at our attendance but we are light years ahead of many schools.

We are light years ahead of most G5 - it is a dying group that no one cares about which we should avoid at all costs and focus on getting to P5 and take all steps now that gets us there the quickest before the club doors are locked after next major change. I would be all for buying out 2021 on - G5 / FCS already on our schedules and reworking to all P5 games possible - make the leap - rip the bandaid - hire and recruit accordingly.

[JK37]

I don’t think we should be comparing ourselves to other schools when it comes to attendance. We should be comparing ourselves to our past.

Can’t we do both?

[Jonathan Carone]

Once we get through the transition, I think so. But right now, given all the changes, I think focusing mostly on our own growth is a better measurement than random G5 schools with totally different contexts.