Jonathan Carone wrote:Smaller arena - great.That sums up so much.
Arena away from students - terrible.
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Jonathan Carone wrote:Smaller arena - great.That sums up so much.
Arena away from students - terrible.
Purple Haize wrote:I suspect they did not have a viable option to locate it closer to the dorms, but I'm sure there are plans to address the issue. A well run shuttle service would actually result in less effort for the students to get to games.Jonathan Carone wrote:Smaller arena - great.That sums up so much.
Arena away from students - terrible.
olldflame wrote:What is our record attendance in the past 10 years?Purple Haize wrote:I suspect they did not have a viable option to locate it closer to the dorms, but I'm sure there are plans to address the issue. A well run shuttle service would actually result in less effort for the students to get to games.Jonathan Carone wrote:Smaller arena - great.That sums up so much.
Arena away from students - terrible.
As far as the size is concerned, I hope they can hold off a bit to see how much interest the rapidly improving men's team can generate before committing to going too small. I've heard numbers as low as 3500, and that seems too small to me.
What is our record attendance in the past 10 years?We've been pretty terrible the last 10 years. The question is how many of the students who turn out for football could be persuaded to turn out for a good environment and solid top 100 team? I say a nicely thought out 5000 to 6000 seats would be optimal.
ALAFlamesFan wrote:So we just finished a state of the art practice facility and are going to up and move everything away from the heart of everything to the boondocks?We have spent a small fortune already on studies and plans to renovate the Vines, and nobody could come up with anything feasible and worth doing. The place is a dinosaur.
I agree a new arena will be nice but with enrollment going up how about moving convo to something new and renovating vines?
ALAFlamesFan wrote:So we just finished a state of the art practice facility and are going to up and move everything away from the heart of everything to the boondocks?
I agree a new arena will be nice but with enrollment going up how about moving convo to something new and renovating vines?
ballah09 wrote:I agree, the Flames club is not cutting it for students. Since these students are tech savy, we need folks who can connect with them in a way to get their interest. Not that this is wrong, but I see more people wearing other schools apparel than ours. I want the students here to get excited about their school first and then have some interest in whatever they supported at home.ALAFlamesFan wrote:So we just finished a state of the art practice facility and are going to up and move everything away from the heart of everything to the boondocks?
I agree a new arena will be nice but with enrollment going up how about moving convo to something new and renovating vines?
They're still going to use the practice facility. We are in need of a new modern facility and 3500-4000 seats sounds about right. bigger games can get moved to the Vines.
As for student turnout. We need to establish a student club we have nothing on campus right now. The jokers are just a group of students. At least club you can organize. Next they need to put an awards system in place for students to entice them to come. Seriously someone needs to call GCU up and see how they do it.
olldflame wrote:I always heard size doesn’t matter....Purple Haize wrote:I suspect they did not have a viable option to locate it closer to the dorms, but I'm sure there are plans to address the issue. A well run shuttle service would actually result in less effort for the students to get to games.Jonathan Carone wrote:Smaller arena - great.That sums up so much.
Arena away from students - terrible.
As far as the size is concerned, I hope they can hold off a bit to see how much interest the rapidly improving men's team can generate before committing to going too small. I've heard numbers as low as 3500, and that seems too small to me.
ballah09 wrote:I’m loathe to criticize LU Sport Marketing but I feel they are missing an opportunity here. I’ll use ASU and WVU as examples. Take a look at their games. Students are decked out in all sorts of school gear with great catch phrases. ‘Fear The Fork’ ‘Best Virginia’ ‘House of Heat’ ‘Press Virginia’ just to name a few. Kids will buy $15-25 shirts. LU can even afford to give them away to students sitting in a specific section. Help to build pride in the Program. Proof of concept? How many freaking Beat Coastal shirts do you still see around?ALAFlamesFan wrote:So we just finished a state of the art practice facility and are going to up and move everything away from the heart of everything to the boondocks?
I agree a new arena will be nice but with enrollment going up how about moving convo to something new and renovating vines?
They're still going to use the practice facility. We are in need of a new modern facility and 3500-4000 seats sounds about right. bigger games can get moved to the Vines.
As for student turnout. We need to establish a student club we have nothing on campus right now. The jokers are just a group of students. At least club you can organize. Next they need to put an awards system in place for students to entice them to come. Seriously someone needs to call GCU up and see how they do it.
ballah09 wrote:We are trending up but will they schedule quality opponents regularly? I don't think the MEACs and the Central Penn's can attract 4000+. I think 3500 arena with the Vines for the bigger games is perfect.The give always work if there is pride in the Institution. If there is ownership of the event. I know Jon poo poo’s the trumped up Coastal rivalry but it was effective. Maybe not on their end but certainly on LU’s end. You block off a specific section for a hundred or so students and give them a t shirt....they will stay. It will be an event. It’s the little things that make pride in a program not palatial facilities
And Haize, I'm right there with you. I hope they figure out that their give aways don't work. Since they can get into games for free..enter and leave.
ballah09 wrote:We are trending up but will they schedule quality opponents regularly? I don't think the MEACs and the Central Penn's can attract 4000+. I think 3500 arena with the Vines for the bigger games is perfect.So we build a beautiful new arena, and then every time we have a "big game" we go back to the tired old Vines? There is something bass-akwards in that if you ask me. I say come up with a number we can live with for the new place, (I'm thinking 5-6000), reconfigure the Vines permanently and no turning back.
And Haize, I'm right there with you. I hope they figure out that their give aways don't work. Since they can get into games for free..enter and leave.
Purple Haize wrote:. I know Jon poo poo’s the trumped up Coastal rivalry but it was effective. Maybe not on their end but certainly on LU’s end.Oh it was absolutely effective. There’s no denying that.
Class of 20Something wrote:I'd bet more than 3500 and that is with a crappy product for the most part.
What is our record attendance in the past 10 years?
BJWilliams wrote:That sounds like a good seating number Jon. Would an arena that size be able to accommodate a box for Jerry Jr and for IM like they have basically shoehorned into the setup of the Vines Center?If you built it the right way, sure.