[Purple Haize]

sinners

Yes we all are!

[SuperJon]

sinners

Jesus drank grape juice.

[lynchburgwildcats]

Additionally, incarceration has caused more crime than it has prevented http://qz.com/458675/in-america-mass-in ... prevented/

And an article on the prescription drug abuse epidemic https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/wi ... reet-drugs

Like alcohol prohibition during the 1920s and early 1930s, drug prohibition is a losing battle that creates criminals and hundreds of millions in annual expenses. Problem is our government has been too dang slow to figure it out this time around. The government is missing out on a gold mine of an opportunity for new revenue by legalizing drugs in some capacity. Legalizing drugs in some capacity will more than like

*Create more government revenue in sales and/or taxes
*Create more jobs along the entire supply chain of the drug industry
*Reduce the amount of state funds and time spent on drug law enforcement
*Therefore increasing the amount of funds and time that can be spent on legitimate criminal activity
*Pretty much guarantees a decrease in drug criminal activity, which will lead to a drastic decrease in incarcerations in a country where prison overpopulation is common enough for it to be a problem
*Safer drugs
*Could very well lead to a decrease in the rate of prescription drug abuse - which could likely lead to a decrease in robberies at drug stores and a decrease in doctors overprescribing drugs that helps fuel the prescription drug abuse crime syndicate

[ATrain]

Additionally, incarceration has caused more crime than it has prevented http://qz.com/458675/in-america-mass-in ... prevented/

And an article on the prescription drug abuse epidemic https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/wi ... reet-drugs

Like alcohol prohibition during the 1920s and early 1930s, drug prohibition is a losing battle that creates criminals and hundreds of millions in annual revenues for private prisons. Problem is our government has been too dang slow to figure it out this time around. The government is missing out on a gold mine of an opportunity for new revenue by legalizing drugs in some capacity. Legalizing drugs in some capacity will more than like

*Create more government revenue in sales and/or taxes
*Create more jobs along the entire supply chain of the drug industry
*Reduce the amount of state funds and time spent on drug law enforcement
*Therefore increasing the amount of funds and time that can be spent on legitimate criminal activity
*Pretty much guarantees a decrease in drug criminal activity, which will lead to a drastic decrease in incarcerations in a country where prison overpopulation is common enough for it to be a problem
*Safer drugs
*Could very well lead to a decrease in the rate of prescription drug abuse

FTFY

[thepostman]

sinners

Jesus drank grape juice.

Are you sure it wasn't actually sweet tea?

[flamesfilmguy]

of course

is there any other?

Atlanta has some pretty awesome lagers down this way. you should come down to the GSU game and I'll introduce you to them

[Purple Haize]

sinners

Jesus drank grape juice.

I prefer Apple Juice in the form of JK Scrumpies Cider

[ALUmnus]

I'm still confused about where this whole thing came from. Who is Kiwon mad at?

And it's long baffled me how many people hang on to the high school mentality that alcohol is SO COOL and that bragging about drinking makes you EVEN COOLER! Grown adults getting all giddy about what they had to drink last night, or trying to show off how much they know about booze. Man, just have your drink of choice and be an adult about it.

And pro-drug legalization people, you can find sources that back up whatever you want, and then find other sources that say the exact opposite.

[PAmedic]

And it's long baffled me how many people hang on to the high school mentality that alcohol is SO COOL and that bragging about drinking makes you EVEN COOLER! Grown adults getting all giddy about what they had to drink last night, or trying to show off how much they know about booze. Man, just have your drink of choice and be an adult about it.

wow took 18 hrs for ya to arrive

I was betting on a LOT sooner than that

all good - you did not disappoint

[ATrain]

And it's long baffled me how many people hang on to the high school mentality that alcohol is SO COOL and that bragging about drinking makes you EVEN COOLER! Grown adults getting all giddy about what they had to drink last night, or trying to show off how much they know about booze. Man, just have your drink of choice and be an adult about it.

wow took 18 hrs for ya to arrive

I was betting on a LOT sooner than that

all good - you did not disappoint

I'm still trying to figure out who, exactly, was bragging? Plus there wasn't really a lot of knowledge about booze posted. Kiwon put a lot of posters on the defensive, so we came out en masse to say that we consumed alcohol and did not have a problem with it. No one on here even said it was cool, just simply we liked it and it was ok to have a drink or two with dinner.

[olldflame]

While I think Kiwon´s post was a typical-for-him way over the top overraction, I can see where it came from. There are quite a few Liberty alums on this board who really seem to like flaunting the fact that they consume alcohol. If it´s not a big deal, why bother mentioning it? If soda or fruit juice were your beverages of choice, would you start a thread asking where you could go to get craft soft drinks or freshly made cider? OK, at least one of you might, and we KNOW if he is enjoying the occasional adult beverage he isn´t going to talk about it here.

[adam42381]

While I think Kiwon´s post was a typical-for-him way over the top overraction, I can see where it came from. There are quite a few Liberty alums on this board who really seem to like flaunting the fact that they consume alcohol. If it´s not a big deal, why bother mentioning it? If soda or fruit juice were your beverages of choice, would you start a thread asking where you could go to get craft soft drinks or freshly made cider? OK, at least one of you might, and we KNOW if he is enjoying the occasional adult beverage he isn´t going to talk about it here.

I started a thread because I figured I could receive some good recommendations, which I did. I'd rather trust local opinions than search the Internet for a place that could be hit or miss. Visiting local craft breweries is a hobby of ours. We're all adults here.

[thepostman]

Wait, there are local craft soft drink makers in the area?

That sounds awesome to me.

[Purple Haize]

While I think Kiwon´s post was a typical-for-him way over the top overraction, I can see where it came from. There are quite a few Liberty alums on this board who really seem to like flaunting the fact that they consume alcohol. If it´s not a big deal, why bother mentioning it? If soda or fruit juice were your beverages of choice, would you start a thread asking where you could go to get craft soft drinks or freshly made cider? OK, at least one of you might, and we KNOW if he is enjoying the occasional adult beverage he isn´t going to talk about it here.

Well no one has started a thread on Soda or Cider (The drink not the poster). Start one of those and I'm sure you will get a response. I'm not sure anyone was flaunting anything. I was critical of the Mamossa crowd and do agree that Bloody Mary's are gross

[ALUmnus]

And it's long baffled me how many people hang on to the high school mentality that alcohol is SO COOL and that bragging about drinking makes you EVEN COOLER! Grown adults getting all giddy about what they had to drink last night, or trying to show off how much they know about booze. Man, just have your drink of choice and be an adult about it.

wow took 18 hrs for ya to arrive

I was betting on a LOT sooner than that

all good - you did not disappoint

I'm still trying to figure out who, exactly, was bragging? Plus there wasn't really a lot of knowledge about booze posted. Kiwon put a lot of posters on the defensive, so we came out en masse to say that we consumed alcohol and did not have a problem with it. No one on here even said it was cool, just simply we liked it and it was ok to have a drink or two with dinner.

Like I said, it's a mentality/attitude I've observed for years, not necessarily specific to this board. It's like some people never leave high school. Then there are others, who just like to be in-your-face to those who think drinking is wrong or foolish, even mocking at times.
And Medic, not sure what you were waiting for. Am I supposed to be anti-alcohol? Because I'm not, I just don't feel the need to talk about it. I have my likes (though it's severely limited by our government-run distribution here), while at the same time there are much better places for me to spend my money.

[PAmedic]

read and acknowledged

[lynchburgwildcats]

And pro-drug legalization people, you can find sources that back up whatever you want, and then find other sources that say the exact opposite.

Well that's the case for just about anything so what's your point?

[RubberMallet]

drinking christians in their 20's and 30's really do love to let it known that they drink. We have about 40 couples in the young marrieds class we lead/facilitate and its always funny to see them start discussing alcohol like they are children. Same thing with like music. There are other "non christian" things (music for example) that i'm sure i've been guilty of making sure EVERYONE around me knows i do. meanwhile there are MANY of people at our church who are around my fathers age who drink but you would have no idea because it never comes up in conversations or is even a topic. my godfather and my dad's best friend have beers when we go on our fishing trip. the first time I saw I was kind of taken back. had no idea. My dad if he wasn't a minister said he would probably occasionally enjoy some bailey's in his coffee.

im pretty much indifferent. I don't drink anymore due to some issues when I was younger and its just so freaking expensive if you don’t' want to drink swill.

I'm also cautiously pro legalization.

[Kiwon]

One hit of Ecstasy and then on Life Support for one month.



http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scott ... ma-6414123

[Purple Haize]

X is bad?

[#10]

Well said Kiwon.
I'm tired and saddened by the general attitude of these Gen Y'rs towards alcohol and drugs. Sadly many christians my age feel the same way about alcohol.. I don't care what age you are or what your lifestyle is...if you drink you are drinking to get buzzed....period. Make all the excuses you want you are only lying to yourself. NOTHING GOOD comes from drinking. This isn't even a Christian issue. So much I could say but will add only this... it's impossible to drink without involving others. Innocent others.....

[Purple Haize]

Well said Kiwon.
I'm tired and saddened by the general attitude of these Gen Y'rs towards alcohol and drugs. Sadly many christians my age feel the same way about alcohol.. I don't care what age you are or what your lifestyle is...if you drink you are drinking to get buzzed....period. Make all the excuses you want you are only lying to yourself. NOTHING GOOD comes from drinking. This isn't even a Christian issue. So much I could say but will add only this... it's impossible to drink without involving others. Innocent others.....

Strong statements devoid of facts. In fact, in the face of contrary facts.
I guess you look unkindly on Christians who own Vineyards.
Jesus obviously whiffed on his first recorded miracle
You dispute scientific research showing the medicinal benefits of Red Wine? Whiskey in small amounts?
I will not deny they possibility and reality of abuse. But to say it's Universal is a tad bit on the ignorant side

[SuperJon]

I don't care what age you are or what your lifestyle is...if you drink you are drinking to get buzzed....period.

This is so incredibly stupid. You're telling me the guy who has one beer with a burger is drinking that beer to get a buzz? That's dumb.

It's impossible to drink without involving others. Innocent others.....

If a man has a drink at night by himself while sitting in his home, how is he involving others? That makes absolutely no sense.

You can think nothing good comes from drinking, but don't make up things that aren't true.

[adam42381]

Well said Kiwon.
I'm tired and saddened by the general attitude of these Gen Y'rs towards alcohol and drugs. Sadly many christians my age feel the same way about alcohol.. I don't care what age you are or what your lifestyle is...if you drink you are drinking to get buzzed....period. Make all the excuses you want you are only lying to yourself. NOTHING GOOD comes from drinking. This isn't even a Christian issue. So much I could say but will add only this... it's impossible to drink without involving others. Innocent others.....

You have no idea what you're talking about. There's a reason why low ABV beer styles are soaring in popularity (gose, Berliner Weisse, session IPA, etc.): craft beer drinkers aren't all out there trying to get hammered. It's about nuanced flavors. You are clearly ignorant on this subject.

[Purple Haize]

I don't care what age you are or what your lifestyle is...if you drink you are drinking to get buzzed....period.

This is so incredibly stupid. You're telling me the guy who has one beer with a burger is drinking that beer to get a buzz? That's dumb.

ummm. Someone had to sell it to him. Let alone brew, package, ship and stock it!

It's impossible to drink without involving others. Innocent others.....

If a man has a drink at night by himself while sitting in his home, how is he involving others? That makes absolutely no sense.

You can think nothing good comes from drinking, but don't make up things that aren't true.