[olldflame]

I'm sure the list we don't know is better than the list we do know. Stand by......

Quite possible. Fortunately we are hiring a coach, not a list, so all it takes is one, whether we know about him now or not.

[BJWilliams]

Agreed...and when the announcement is made, I will be tuning in from here in the 757 wearing my red.

[Cider Jim]

Your man crush is going through the roof.

Olldflame, I've got the same crush!

[flameshaw]

Not on the Moton bandwagon at all. Like the young assistant from Michigan though.

[Cider Jim]

Like the young assistant from Michigan though.

Meyer's not that young anymore.

[flameshaw]

Like the young assistant from Michigan though.

Meyer's not that young anymore. :I chortle audibly.:

Not talking about Meyer.

[olldflame]

Not on the Moton bandwagon at all. Like the young assistant from Michigan though.

Based on what? He has never been a HC anywhere. His career to this point has been spent making recommendations. Do you really want to put the job of resurrecting our program in the hands of someone who has never had to actually make a meaningful decision as a coach in his life? Not me. I think at least one successful stint as a HC at some level is a bare minimum requirement, and based on what he has said I believe JB feels the same.

[Bigsouthking]

Not on the Moton bandwagon at all. Like the young assistant from Michigan though.

Based on what? He has never been a HC anywhere. His career to this point has been spent making recommendations. Do you really want to put the job of resurrecting our program in the hands of someone who has never had to actually make a meaningful decision as a coach in his life? Not me. I think at least one successful stint as a HC at some level is a bare minimum requirement, and based on what he has said I believe JB feels the same.

OldFlame -

How much experience did Meyer have in 83 or whenever he arrived, How bout the baseball coach Toman? Brad Stevens? Bob McKillop at Davidson? Kevin Keatts UNCW? Kelsey at Winthrop? Cherry at HP? Radebaugh had 1 year of D2 experience.
Layer had a bunch of experience and failed miserably!!!
Maybe Liberty needs an AD with "ONIONS" instead of deep pockets.

[jinxy]

Layer had experience. So did mckay. Pass on moton. I agree i hope the real list is better than most of these guys.

[olldflame]

Not on the Moton bandwagon at all. Like the young assistant from Michigan though.

Based on what? He has never been a HC anywhere. His career to this point has been spent making recommendations. Do you really want to put the job of resurrecting our program in the hands of someone who has never had to actually make a meaningful decision as a coach in his life? Not me. I think at least one successful stint as a HC at some level is a bare minimum requirement, and based on what he has said I believe JB feels the same.

OldFlame -

How much experience did Meyer have in 83 or whenever he arrived, How bout the baseball coach Toman? Brad Stevens? Bob McKillop at Davidson? Kevin Keatts UNCW? Kelsey at Winthrop? Cherry at HP? Radebaugh had 1 year of D2 experience.
Layer had a bunch of experience and failed miserably!!!
Maybe Liberty needs an AD with "ONIONS" instead of deep pockets.

When Meyer came to LU we were playing in the NCCAA. Our HC job was an "entry level" position. As a D1 program, it no longer is. Despite his recruiting prowess, Jim Toman's lack of HC experience was very evident in his first few years at LU and still rears it's head from time to time. Bob McKillop was a highly successful HS Head Coach in New York for 15 years before taking the Davidson Job. Kevin Keatts had a record of 262-17 in 2 stints as HC at Hargrave before hooking up with the Pitinos.

Are you actually using Kelsey, Cherry and Radabaugh as examples of great hires? lol

It is true that Brad Stevens had no HC experience when Butler promoted him to head their program. Can we acknowledge that he is exceptional? Butler knew they had something special and made the right move.

I'm not saying there aren't assistants out there who could do a good job for us, but as important as this hire is, I can understand why JB would want someone who has proven he can win as the guy making the calls.

[flameshaw]

Let's see........................ NCCU head coach or an assistant with Big Blue? I would take the Big Blue job 100 times out of 100. Sounds like we are getting plenty of interest and will get a good coach. I trust JB to make the correct hire.

[BJWilliams]

When Meyer came to LU we were playing in the NCCAA. Our HC job was an "entry level" position. As a D1 program, it no longer is. Despite his recruiting prowess, Jim Toman's lack of HC experience was very evident in his first few years at LU and still rears it's head from time to time. Bob McKillop was a highly successful HS Head Coach in New York for 15 years before taking the Davidson Job. Kevin Keatts had a record of 262-17 in 2 stints as HC at Hargrave before hooking up with the Pitinos.

Are you actually using Kelsey, Cherry and Radabaugh as examples of great hires? I chortle audibly.

It is true that Brad Stevens had no HC experience when Butler promoted him to head their program. Can we acknowledge that he is exceptional? Butler knew they had something special and made the right move.

I'm not saying there aren't assistants out there who could do a good job for us, but as important as this hire is, I can understand why JB would want someone who has proven he can win as the guy making the calls.

And that's why he's the one making the hires and signing the checks, and we are the ones talking about it on a message board.

[Hold My Own]

I'm about to drop some inside information on someone else to add to that list......


PM's below (bold is PM's only):

Subject: possible candidates for men's BB

I heard BJ was available. Hmo, time to draw a contract!

If we get sent home early from work today I'm in. There's no way I can update BJ's resume with all of his life experience since the last attempt AND get the troops back together for staffing needs all during my lunch break.

Ahhh forget it. I quit. I'm all in BJ let's roll!

I need to look back and find out who we named the Official Athletic Supporter and make sure we have a good grasp on everything.

Gotta remember the Xs and Os bud

You can come up with that over night. We need to get the team together first. I'm willing to do whatever you'd like though. Just let me know!

Make it happen. if nothing else getting to interview with a Division I athletic director will give me some much needed practice

[SuperJon]

In the words of a former coach: wooooooooow.

[Hold My Own]

It just wouldn't feel right to not give the loyal members of FF the scoop first, rather than find out by reading something in print by Lang. It's important to never forget where you came from.

[givemethemic]

I think Moton is heck a of a coach, just ask Gottfried and Roy Williams what they think of him.
He has done a lot with very little at NCCU. Heck they couldn't even afford to the pay the NCAA for the cost to broadcast the game on the radio last year when they went to the NCAA tourney.
I don't think he would leave there to come here. Moton would put Liberty back on the map and take it to a place it hasn't been before. His story of what he has done here in the triangle is awesome.

I don't think Barber will make a great hire, he could prove me wrong but I don't see it happening. Had he kept Randy Dunton and given him an open check in the first place we wouldn't be at the bottom of D-1 men's basketball like we are now. Barber is just as responsible for this mess as Layer is. He didn't see the writing on the wall 2 years ago when everyone else did which is his fault. But win or lose we will pray with the opponent Which is all that has seemed to matter for the last 3 years.

[Purple Haize]

It just wouldn't feel right to not give the loyal members of FF the scoop first, rather than find out by reading something in print by Lang. It's important to never forget where you came from.

That's just cruel and wrong.

BJ I'm going to hit you with a difficult truth. You have absolutely 0 chance of getting the job. You also have Zero chance of getting an interview. I don't mean to be cruel, but getting your hopes up when there is no shot would be more cruel.

[VAGolf]

Comparing Moton to McKay and Layer is ridiculous.

Moton has not been anywhere outside of small, inner-city, NCCU. Layer had very little success at Colorado State before coming here. McKay coached at Colorado State, Oregon State and New Mexico before coming here. And by the way, McKay is a good coach...he just left.

I don't want an assistant. Liberty isn't a small job. It's a big private school job in a small conference. In other words, it's a lot to manage. Head coaches are the only ones with that sort of management experience. And don't give me Stevens as your example. Stevens is the exception, not the rule.

Moton is perfect because he is a very successful head coach at a small school. These big name coaches are unmotivated after being here for 2 to 3 years. That may change pending a conference move, but for now, it is what it is. Moton would be a fantastic hire.

[jmmiii]

2 teams in Lang's top 25 ballot have coaches who are interested in the HC position at Liberty. Just simple algebra now.

[jimflamesfan]

I'd take Moton ove an asst from a big school. MEAC and Big South are similar. Also, I don't mind his recruiting out of the country (remember Birmingham Southern), or transfers (Tomam seems to like them).

[bluejacket]

I'm not crazy about the Tang suggestion based on my exposure to him over the years here in Houston and hearing plenty of whispers. But he does have a small LU connection. He was the HS coach of Elijah Miller. Hey, I said it was small.

Completely agree. In my opinion, Tang would be extremely high risk/reward.

[bluejacket]

Based on what? He has never been a HC anywhere. His career to this point has been spent making recommendations. Do you really want to put the job of resurrecting our program in the hands of someone who has never had to actually make a meaningful decision as a coach in his life? Not me. I think at least one successful stint as a HC at some level is a bare minimum requirement, and based on what he has said I believe JB feels the same.

OldFlame -

How much experience did Meyer have in 83 or whenever he arrived, How bout the baseball coach Toman? Brad Stevens? Bob McKillop at Davidson? Kevin Keatts UNCW? Kelsey at Winthrop? Cherry at HP? Radebaugh had 1 year of D2 experience.
Layer had a bunch of experience and failed miserably!!!
Maybe Liberty needs an AD with "ONIONS" instead of deep pockets.

When Meyer came to LU we were playing in the NCCAA. Our HC job was an "entry level" position. As a D1 program, it no longer is. Despite his recruiting prowess, Jim Toman's lack of HC experience was very evident in his first few years at LU and still rears it's head from time to time. Bob McKillop was a highly successful HS Head Coach in New York for 15 years before taking the Davidson Job. Kevin Keatts had a record of 262-17 in 2 stints as HC at Hargrave before hooking up with the Pitinos.

Are you actually using Kelsey, Cherry and Radabaugh as examples of great hires? I chortle audibly.

It is true that Brad Stevens had no HC experience when Butler promoted him to head their program. Can we acknowledge that he is exceptional? Butler knew they had something special and made the right move.

I'm not saying there aren't assistants out there who could do a good job for us, but as important as this hire is, I can understand why JB would want someone who has proven he can win as the guy making the calls.

Are you talking about LaVall Jordan? He would be an outstanding hire. Jordan and Brandon Miller were the two finalists to replace Brad Stevens at Butler. I'm not at all sure why there is any trepidation about him potentially interviewing and becoming our head coach.

[adam42381]

It just wouldn't feel right to not give the loyal members of FF the scoop first, rather than find out by reading something in print by Lang. It's important to never forget where you came from.

That's just cruel and wrong.

BJ I'm going to hit you with a difficult truth. You have absolutely 0 chance of getting the job. You also have Zero chance of getting an interview. I don't mean to be cruel, but getting your hopes up when there is no shot would be more cruel.

True, but it's still kind of funny.

[olldflame]

Yes. I was referring to Jordan bluejacket. He is a highly respected assistant and could turn out to be a great HC, but the fact remains that to this point in his coaching career he has never made a meaningful decision.

[BJWilliams]

It just wouldn't feel right to not give the loyal members of FF the scoop first, rather than find out by reading something in print by Lang. It's important to never forget where you came from.

That's just cruel and wrong.

BJ I'm going to hit you with a difficult truth. You have absolutely 0 chance of getting the job. You also have Zero chance of getting an interview. I don't mean to be cruel, but getting your hopes up when there is no shot would be more cruel.

Oh im aware I have zero shot. I just figured since HMO wanted to run with that after the whole thing some years back with the PC job (and the situation with the house we rented after him) that I'd throw him a bone and roll with it. JB is a friend of mine so if nothing else I get a talking to on my next visit to Lynchburg and he file 13s whatever was sent (if anything).