[Liberty22]

Whether anyone calls to shut down the thread or not does not change the fact it is a stupid thread.

I agree it's stupid but saying it needs to be shutdown is uncalled for. Let's not act like liberal cry babies.

[Blessed1]

Whether anyone calls to shut down the thread or not does not change the fact it is a stupid thread.

You're welcomed to your opinion. However, you have not stated why this thread is "stupid". Try again...Just like the FSU student council still trying to determine whether or not Winston actually broke student conduct rules. I'm sure they will come up with a decision after the BCS playoffs and before Winston declares for the NFL (or MLB) draft. That'll probably be around the time you will finally come up with reasons why this thread is "stupid". Don't worry, I've got time. I'll wait...

[Blessed1]

Whether anyone calls to shut down the thread or not does not change the fact it is a stupid thread.

I agree it's stupid but saying it needs to be shutdown is uncalled for. Let's not act like liberal cry babies.

Thanks for your support, bro... No wonder you're the life of the party on the Sun Belt boards.

[Blessed1]

I'm not sure why I'm getting this type of response from a hypothetical question. If I started a thread on why the Big 12 should invite Liberty, then I could understand. However, I guess my approach was wrong. Maybe I should keep it plain and simple.

That fact that some of you all see Liberty as, in some ways, inferior to do something involving FBS while not being in FBS is disappointing. Liberty has their own land. The school is practically the backbone of the city of Lynchburg, at least economically. Also the fact that Liberty is expanding more and more while preparing for future residential students and faculty. I posed the question on whether it could work since the stadium will be expanding in the fear future.

If your responses would have consisted of "That wouldn't be a great idea because..x, y, z" That's fine. However to get this type of feedback is really sad.

[jbock13]

I'm not sure why I'm getting this type of response from a hypothetical question. If I started a thread on why the Big 12 should invite Liberty, then I could understand.

That's pretty much the same level of what you asked.

[VAGolf]

That fact that some of you all see Liberty as, in some ways, inferior to do something involving FBS while not being in FBS is disappointing. Liberty has their own land. The school is practically the backbone of the city of Lynchburg, at least economically. Also the fact that Liberty is expanding more and more while preparing for future residential students and faculty. I posed the question on whether it could work since the stadium will be expanding in the fear future.

If your responses would have consisted of "That wouldn't be a great idea because..x, y, z" That's fine. However to get this type of feedback is really sad.

You almost answered your own question. Even if stadium expansion was the only factor that determined whether or not one could/would host a bowl, Liberty has ZERO intentions of expanding the stadium until we receive an FBS offer. So, even according to your own criteria, Liberty cannot host a bowl as an FCS program.

It's fine if you want to pose a question but no one here is going to hold to your hand; and they shouldn't. Getting upset because someone called this thread dumb isn't a good idea either.

And for the record, the reason why one would determine this thread "dumb," is because this thread could very well be confused for trolling.

And to those who are opposed to this thread being shut down: the reason you shut down a thread like this, is to prevent it from getting to this point.

[Blessed1]

I'm not sure why I'm getting this type of response from a hypothetical question. If I started a thread on why the Big 12 should invite Liberty, then I could understand.

That's pretty much the same level of what you asked.

Asking an honest question with some reasoning behind it vs. posting a wild, pipe-dream with no logic whatsoever is totally different.

I'm not totally familiar with the city as some of you. And that's fine. With that said, helping me to understand why my "assumptions", if you will, of what Liberty can do or cannot do would have been more appreciated.

[Purple Haize]

If you can't have alcohol its a non starter
Do we even have the rom capacity?
Why would anyone want to come to Lynchburg? It's needs to offer more than just A Bowl.

[Blessed1]

That fact that some of you all see Liberty as, in some ways, inferior to do something involving FBS while not being in FBS is disappointing. Liberty has their own land. The school is practically the backbone of the city of Lynchburg, at least economically. Also the fact that Liberty is expanding more and more while preparing for future residential students and faculty. I posed the question on whether it could work since the stadium will be expanding in the fear future.

If your responses would have consisted of "That wouldn't be a great idea because..x, y, z" That's fine. However to get this type of feedback is really sad.

You almost answered your own question. Even if stadium expansion was the only factor that determined whether or not one could/would host a bowl, Liberty has ZERO intentions of expanding the stadium until we receive an FBS offer. So, even according to your own criteria, Liberty cannot host a bowl as an FCS program.

It's fine if you want to pose a question but no one here is going to hold to your hand; and they shouldn't. Getting upset because someone called this thread dumb isn't a good idea either.

And for the record, the reason why one would determine this thread "dumb," is because this thread could very well be confused for trolling.

And to those who are opposed to this thread being shut down: the reason you shut down a thread like this, is to prevent it from getting to this point.

VA, I didn't want anyone to hold my hand. I guess because I do not have thousands of posts on here that people assumed I was trolling for whatever reason. In actuality I was what you might call a "lurker" for many years before I decided to register and start posting on here. I registered once I officially became a student of Liberty.

My major when I was a student at Liberty was in Business. Given the landscape of P5 and the FBS playoffs, the G5 schools are getting shafted. I saw that there could be a two-fold possibility for Liberty 1) to make some financial gain since there was an opportunity for it with hosting and 2) have the G5 conferences to look at Liberty in a different, positive way. Trust me, my heart was in the right place.

If anyone is getting upset it would be because of what I thought we had some sort of poster code of conducts on here. On other boards, they would ban people for being hateful or disrespectful. With that said, if the mods are allowing it and I'm getting things thrown my way, please do not get upset if things come back your way.

[Yacht Rock]

Asking an honest question with some reasoning behind it vs. posting a wild, pipe-dream with no logic whatsoever is totally different.

Im fairly certain that both would be considered wild pipe dreams based on little to no logic or coherent justification.

...helping me to understand why my "assumptions", if you will, of what Liberty can do or cannot do would have been more appreciated.

I've personally never hosted a bowl game but it doesn't take much to realize that there is much more needed than "what Liberty can do or cannot do" that goes into it.

The city itself would need to change for that to happen. There are many logistical hurdles. Lodging, food, transportation, etc. The city would need to offer more for guests than just a football game.

Can those be overcome? Someday, perhaps. It's not impossible. But that will be many many years down the line and likely after the school has even more influence on the area once we eventually go FBS, since we won't even grow the stadium until that happens.

[Blessed1]

If you can't have alcohol its a non starter
Do we even have the rom capacity?
Why would anyone want to come to Lynchburg? It's needs to offer more than just A Bowl.

Alcohol

Given the dynamics of Liberty's belief system, I seriously doubt if they would ever prohibit alcohol in the stadium. I used my old church as an example where fans could tailgate but in certain areas. My old church had watchdogs (security) to watch over the property, but not totally interfere with fans. If Liberty can tolerate tailgating, they could work around it.

Room capacity

I was reminded that 'phase 3' of the expansion of Williams stadium will not be completed until we get invited to an FBS conference. I believe after phase 3 gets completed, Williams stadium will hold 30,000 fans. That may be enough space on surface, but other issues to consider is space in the press boxes, luxury suit boxes, etc. I'm not sure of the dynamics phase 3 would cover in that regard.

Why Lynchburg?

I mentioned earlier that Lynchburg is a not a preferred destination like say San Antonio, Tampa, New York City, etc. However, there are bowls in the mid-Atlantic during the month of December. I believe that Liberty has done a great job of adding activities for students. Will those activities entertain everyone? Probably not since not every fan is going to be in the 18-35 year old range. This is where I would have appreciated incite about the city itself from some of the posters on here. Are there enough hotels, restaurants, shopping malls in the area to pull this off? Hopefully, someone could answer the questions respectfully. If Liberty could expand in those areas, that could greatly increase its chances of hosting such an event, if they ever choose to.

[Blessed1]

Asking an honest question with some reasoning behind it vs. posting a wild, pipe-dream with no logic whatsoever is totally different.

Im fairly certain that both would be considered wild pipe dreams based on little to no logic or coherent justification.

...helping me to understand why my "assumptions", if you will, of what Liberty can do or cannot do would have been more appreciated.

I've personally never hosted a bowl game but it doesn't take much to realize that there is much more needed than "what Liberty can do or cannot do" that goes into it.

The city itself would need to change for that to happen. There are many logistical hurdles. Lodging, food, transportation, etc. The city would need to offer more for guests than just a football game.

Can those be overcome? Someday, perhaps. It's not impossible. But that will be many many years down the line and likely after the school has even more influence on the area once we eventually go FBS, since we won't even grow the stadium until that happens.

Thank you for your input on the topic... I decided to post this due to the number of schools from G5 conferences that were eligible to play in the bowls games, but did not have a place to go. Georgia Southern actually won the Sun Belt this year. However, they were denied along with App State due to them transitioning to FBS. I truly believed that Lafayette sent the NCAA a "reminder" email to eliminate Georgia Southern so that they (U-LL) could go to the New Orleans bowl again. That's just my belief though.

But there were multiple schools that missed out. Enough where Liberty COULD entertain the idea. Hopefully, that justified my post, but in actuality, you're talking about a game that could host the 4th place Sun Belt team against the 5th place team from C-USA or the MAC. Not really primetime, must see TV. However, it could help Liberty much like the Independence bowl helps La Tech or the Liberty bowl helps Memphis to be more attractive.

Logistically, it sounds like Lynchburg is not ready right now, but it could be in the future. I guess once the FBS invite comes, then Liberty would be more compelled to further beatify the city for bigger things, not entirely for a bowl game, but for other reasons.

[VAGolf]

That fact that some of you all see Liberty as, in some ways, inferior to do something involving FBS while not being in FBS is disappointing. Liberty has their own land. The school is practically the backbone of the city of Lynchburg, at least economically. Also the fact that Liberty is expanding more and more while preparing for future residential students and faculty. I posed the question on whether it could work since the stadium will be expanding in the fear future.

If your responses would have consisted of "That wouldn't be a great idea because..x, y, z" That's fine. However to get this type of feedback is really sad.

You almost answered your own question. Even if stadium expansion was the only factor that determined whether or not one could/would host a bowl, Liberty has ZERO intentions of expanding the stadium until we receive an FBS offer. So, even according to your own criteria, Liberty cannot host a bowl as an FCS program.

It's fine if you want to pose a question but no one here is going to hold to your hand; and they shouldn't. Getting upset because someone called this thread dumb isn't a good idea either.

And for the record, the reason why one would determine this thread "dumb," is because this thread could very well be confused for trolling.

And to those who are opposed to this thread being shut down: the reason you shut down a thread like this, is to prevent it from getting to this point.

VA, I didn't want anyone to hold my hand. I guess because I do not have thousands of posts on here that people assumed I was trolling for whatever reason. In actuality I was what you might call a "lurker" for many years before I decided to register and start posting on here. I registered once I officially became a student of Liberty.

My major when I was a student at Liberty was in Business. Given the landscape of P5 and the FBS playoffs, the G5 schools are getting shafted. I saw that there could be a two-fold possibility for Liberty 1) to make some financial gain since there was an opportunity for it with hosting and 2) have the G5 conferences to look at Liberty in a different, positive way. Trust me, my heart was in the right place.

If anyone is getting upset it would be because of what I thought we had some sort of poster code of conducts on here. On other boards, they would ban people for being hateful or disrespectful. With that said, if the mods are allowing it and I'm getting things thrown my way, please do not get upset if things come back your way.

You and I have nearly the same amount of posts. I also majored in business, and being a business major or having a higher post count has little relevance to this conversation, or anything for that matter.

On other boards, you probably would have been mocked worse. This is very, very mild.

It's a message board. Stop whining that someone didn't sugarcoat a response for you.

[Purple Haize]

If you can't have alcohol its a non starter
Do we even have the rom capacity?
Why would anyone want to come to Lynchburg? It's needs to offer more than just A Bowl.

Alcohol

Given the dynamics of Liberty's belief system, I seriously doubt if they would ever prohibit alcohol in the stadium. I used my old church as an example where fans could tailgate but in certain areas. My old church had watchdogs (security) to watch over the property, but not totally interfere with fans. If Liberty can tolerate tailgating, they could work around it.

Room capacity

I was reminded that 'phase 3' of the expansion of Williams stadium will not be completed until we get invited to an FBS conference. I believe after phase 3 gets completed, Williams stadium will hold 30,000 fans. That may be enough space on surface, but other issues to consider is space in the press boxes, luxury suit boxes, etc. I'm not sure of the dynamics phase 3 would cover in that regard.

Why Lynchburg?

I mentioned earlier that Lynchburg is a not a preferred destination like say San Antonio, Tampa, New York City, etc. However, there are bowls in the mid-Atlantic during the month of December. I believe that Liberty has done a great job of adding activities for students. Will those activities entertain everyone? Probably not since not every fan is going to be in the 18-35 year old range. This is where I would have appreciated incite about the city itself from some of the posters on here. Are there enough hotels, restaurants, shopping malls in the area to pull this off? Hopefully, someone could answer the questions respectfully. If Liberty could expand in those areas, that could greatly increase its chances of hosting such an event, if they ever choose to.

Room space meant hotel rooms.
There is a 'booze patrol' at LU games in the Tail Gate section.
Lynchburg truly does not offer much for visitors to do
It clear you have an extremely limited understanding of what goes into hosting a Bowl game or very large event

[NotAJerry]

There is no way I'm going to believe anyone could potentially think that Lynchburg could host a bowl game at any point in the next 50 years.

[Blessed1]

You and I have nearly the same amount of posts. I also majored in business, and being a business major or having a higher post count has little relevance to this conversation, or anything for that matter.

On other boards, you probably would have been mocked worse. This is very, very mild.

It's a message board. Stop whining that someone didn't sugarcoat a response for you.

No one is or was whining. I did not expect anyone to sugarcoat anything, especially on a message board. Comments were made and I responded to some back. That's it.

In terms of post count and posting frequency it does mean something in how responses are given back. People tend to be more cautious with words if someone is considered an old-head on here. That's my personal opinion. Like I mentioned earlier I don't post like some of you all due to me being a lurker for so long, but it's all good anyhow. I'll keep convos plain and simple.

[Blessed1]

Room space meant hotel rooms.
There is a 'booze patrol' at LU games in the Tail Gate section.
Lynchburg truly does not offer much for visitors to do
It clear you have an extremely limited understanding of what goes into hosting a Bowl game or very large event

You're right, Haize. I do not have the understanding into hosting a bowl game. What I posted was a hypothetical idea. I expected the folks that live in the city to share their thoughts. I asked was it possible, it seems to be an astounding 'no'.

Some folks shared their reasons why respectfully, others did not. Yours was respectful all the way until the last sentence... So now I understand that if anything pertaining to hosting a bowl or large event, I should contact you directly. Thanks for the heads up.

[SuperJon]

You could just ask any sport management major who paid attention to Intro To Sport Management their sophomore year. They would know as well.

[Blessed1]

There is no way I'm going to believe anyone could potentially think that Lynchburg could host a bowl game at any point in the next 50 years.

Yeah, darn my forward-thinking and big ideas! It's hard to say what'll happen in the next 50 years, but if something did happen, it'll be worth the wait.

[Yacht Rock]

In terms of post count and posting frequency it does mean something in how responses are given back. People tend to be more cautious with words if someone is considered an old-head on here.

You may have never seen how folks respond to BJ's posts. Lol

[Yacht Rock]

There is no way I'm going to believe anyone could potentially think that Lynchburg could host a bowl game at any point in the next 50 years.

+1

[alabama24]

Given the dynamics of Liberty's belief system, I seriously doubt if they would ever prohibit alcohol in the stadium.

I am trying to figure out if you don't understand the word "prohibit", or if you don't understand Liberty. Liberty DOES prohibit (not allow) alcohol on campus, including at tailgates.

Why Lynchburg?

I mentioned earlier that Lynchburg is a not a preferred destination like say San Antonio, Tampa, New York City, etc. However, there are bowls in the mid-Atlantic during the month of December.

OK. I will bite. Give us some names of places that hold a bowl game where Lynchburg would hold the advantage.

EDIT: But I still insist that the idea of adding a new bowl game in ANY city is "dumb." We should get rid of the number of bowl games, not add to them. Teams should have to win 8 games to be "bowl eligible."

[Sly Fox]

Detroit. Any city that is not Detroit would have an advantage.

[Purple Haize]

You could just ask any sport management major who paid attention to Intro To Sport Management their sophomore year. They would know as well.

You didn't take it till your Sophomore year?

BLESSED how was that last sentence not respectful? I pointed out you did not understand what it took to put on a Bowl or major event. You agreed with that.
And it is always a good idea to check with me

[alabama24]

Detroit. Any city that is not Detroit would have an advantage.

Yeah.

William's Stadium > Ford Field.
Lynchburg Regional Airport > Detroit Metropolitan
Carter Glass Mansion > Meadow Brook Hall

Of places I would choose to LIVE, Lynchburg wins hands down. Of places I would want to see a bowl game...