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By bluejacket
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JakeP50 wrote:Just announced Mike RIley is going to Nebraska
#Huskers, help us welcome Coach Mike Riley to the Big Red family!

#GBR
Mike Riley is a very good coach and he would do well at most places, but I'm not sure if he is a good match with Nebraska.
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By bluejacket
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VAGolf wrote:Wasn't he kind of on the hot seat at Oregon State? That's an interesting hire.
Boosters/administrators in Corvallis weren't happy that Oregon is in the national spotlight while they were maxing out at 10-4 under Riley.
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By Dr. Sheh
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Is Mike Riley really an upgrade over Pelini? I realize that Bo could never get the huskers over the hump despite several solid seasons....but it's not like Riley was consistently great w/ the Beavers either. He had a decent run for a while but struggled recently. I understand Oregon State doesn't have a ton of great history, but still.

Does Riley have any prior connections to Nebraska? I really would have guessed they'd make a hire w/ someone close to the program.
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By VAGolf
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bluejacket wrote:
VAGolf wrote:Wasn't he kind of on the hot seat at Oregon State? That's an interesting hire.
Boosters/administrators in Corvallis weren't happy that Oregon is in the national spotlight while they were maxing out at 10-4 under Riley.

Yeah, honestly though, the state of Oregon produces about ten D1 players in a good year. The fact that both of those schools have been as competitive as they have been is pretty amazing. That hire may work out pretty well.
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By Liberty22
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Dr. Sheh wrote: Does Riley have any prior connections to Nebraska? I really would have guessed they'd make a hire w/ someone close to the program.
I'm just glad that they didn't sit on it longer and make us sweat out a potential HCTG flirtation.
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By bluejacket
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VAGolf wrote:Yeah, honestly though, the state of Oregon produces about ten D1 players in a good year. The fact that both of those schools have been as competitive as they have been is pretty amazing. That hire may work out pretty well.
Oregon touches California. Nebraska touches....

On top of that, Mike Riley was not known as a great recruiter. His strengths are in football knowledge, tactics, and strategy (in addition to being a nice guy :) ) He can get many programs to 9 wins and knock off a top 10 team every once in while. But those are the baseline expectations in Nebraska. They just fired a coach that can do that.
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By Dr. Sheh
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Liberty22 wrote:
Dr. Sheh wrote: Does Riley have any prior connections to Nebraska? I really would have guessed they'd make a hire w/ someone close to the program.
I'm just glad that they didn't sit on it longer and make us sweat out a potential HCTG flirtation.
Agreed.
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By VAGolf
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bluejacket wrote:
VAGolf wrote:Yeah, honestly though, the state of Oregon produces about ten D1 players in a good year. The fact that both of those schools have been as competitive as they have been is pretty amazing. That hire may work out pretty well.
Oregon touches California. Nebraska touches....

On top of that, Mike Riley was not known as a great recruiter. His strengths are in football knowledge, tactics, and strategy (in addition to being a nice guy :) ) He can get many programs to 9 wins and knock off a top 10 team every once in while. But those are the baseline expectations in Nebraska. They just fired a coach that can do that.

That's mostly what I was getting at. He's done a good job of developing QB's too. He's probably the best option that Nebraska had, and it's probably not a bad hire either.
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By bluejacket
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VAGolf wrote:That's mostly what I was getting at. He's done a good job of developing QB's too. He's probably the best option that Nebraska had, and it's probably not a bad hire either.
My point is that you can win PAC-12 championships at Oregon State or win 9 games every year with an average recruiter/great coach combination because you touch California. Erickson won a Fiesta Bowl at Oregon State because he could recruit players from California. Riley did the same thing, even though he was not nearly as strong of a recruiter. Even if you are not a great recruiter, the second and third tier players in California can be coached them into a very competitive PAC-12 program.

There is no regional recruiting base close to Nebraska, let alone touching it, so you have to have a great recruiter to offset those deficiencies. When Nebraska was a national power, the best players came from all over the country. I think that there is a unfortunate intersection coming together in Nebraska. Mike Riley could succeed in a lot of places, but I don't think that Lincoln, Nebraska is one of them.
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By Liberty22
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flamesfilmguy wrote:If Tressel goes to Youngstown State again I would not be surprised.
I'm trying to gauge your words to see sarcasm or facetiousness but it's too difficult lol

Tressel is currently at Youngstown State as the school president. Would he step down and coach, maybe but I doubt it. He may never coach again, then again, he stills has an agent so it's possible he could land somewhere.
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By VAGolf
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bluejacket wrote:
VAGolf wrote:That's mostly what I was getting at. He's done a good job of developing QB's too. He's probably the best option that Nebraska had, and it's probably not a bad hire either.
My point is that you can win PAC-12 championships at Oregon State or win 9 games every year with an average recruiter/great coach combination because you touch California. Erickson won a Fiesta Bowl at Oregon State because he could recruit players from California. Riley did the same thing, even though he was not nearly as strong of a recruiter. Even if you are not a great recruiter, the second and third tier players in California can be coached them into a very competitive PAC-12 program.

There is no regional recruiting base close to Nebraska, let alone touching it, so you have to have a great recruiter to offset those deficiencies. When Nebraska was a national power, the best players came from all over the country. I think that there is a unfortunate intersection coming together in Nebraska. Mike Riley could succeed in a lot of places, but I don't think that Lincoln, Nebraska is one of them.
1. He's recruited Texas almost as much as California.

2. California is also recruited by UCLA, USC, Stanford, Arizona State, Arizona, Texas, Oregon, Cal, Washington, Washington State, Fresno State, and San Diego State. Duke has also recruited a lot in California for the past three seasons.

There aren't that many recruits in Nebraska or surrounding states, but who are they competing with? Iowa, Kansas State....and______

Riley isn't Kiffin or Saban when it comes to recruiting, but recruiting at Oregon State isn't easy either.
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By bluejacket
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VAGolf wrote:1. He's recruited Texas almost as much as California.

2. California is also recruited by UCLA, USC, Stanford, Arizona State, Arizona, Texas, Oregon, Cal, Washington, Washington State, Fresno State, and San Diego State. Duke has also recruited a lot in California for the past three seasons.

There aren't that many recruits in Nebraska or surrounding states, but who are they competing with? Iowa, Kansas State....and______

Riley isn't Kiffin or Saban when it comes to recruiting, but recruiting at Oregon State isn't easy either.
1. Riley wasn't recruiting Texas as much as California. On this season's OSU roster, there are 9 Texans compared to 41 players from California. OSU has 20 players from Oregon on their roster.

2. That is where the midlevel and low D-I talent in California comes into play for Oregon State (and the rest of the PAC-12/Mountain West). There are tons of out of state schools in California, but they can only do so much and there is even more talent in California. There are only 7 FBS and 4 FCS schools in California. PAC-12/Mountain West D-I coaches know that they can get solid players in California if they are consistently recruiting the state. At Nebraska, where can you do that? Nebraska has 1.8 million in the state (The City of Los Angeles has 3.7 million people). If Nebraska is going to be a national power again, the coach at Nebraska cannot depend on regional recruiting like Riley did at OSU. It has nothing to do with recruiting competition, there simply aren't enough D-I level recruits in the immediate vicinity to sustain a national power.
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By VAGolf
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bluejacket wrote:
VAGolf wrote:1. He's recruited Texas almost as much as California.

2. California is also recruited by UCLA, USC, Stanford, Arizona State, Arizona, Texas, Oregon, Cal, Washington, Washington State, Fresno State, and San Diego State. Duke has also recruited a lot in California for the past three seasons.

There aren't that many recruits in Nebraska or surrounding states, but who are they competing with? Iowa, Kansas State....and______

Riley isn't Kiffin or Saban when it comes to recruiting, but recruiting at Oregon State isn't easy either.
1. Riley wasn't recruiting Texas as much as California. On this season's OSU roster, there are 9 Texans compared to 41 players from California. OSU has 20 players from Oregon on their roster.

2. That is where the midlevel and low D-I talent in California comes into play for Oregon State (and the rest of the PAC-12/Mountain West). There are tons of out of state schools in California, but they can only do so much and there is even more talent in California. There are only 7 FBS and 4 FCS schools in California. PAC-12/Mountain West D-I coaches know that they can get solid players in California if they are consistently recruiting the state. At Nebraska, where can you do that? Nebraska has 1.8 million in the state (The City of Los Angeles has 3.7 million people). If Nebraska is going to be a national power again, the coach at Nebraska cannot depend on regional recruiting like Riley did at OSU. It has nothing to do with recruiting competition, there simply aren't enough D-I level recruits in the immediate vicinity to sustain a national power.
You can't look at a team's roster to determine where they're getting players from. I believe the last time I looked, Liberty had over a hundred players listed on their roster. Yet, we only have 63 scholarships. So, if you're going to determine how one recruits, you have to look at how their recruiting...Riley spent a ton of time in Texas.

Yes, many of his kids did come from California and that state does have great high school football. But the best schools are in Southern California. The distance between Oregon State and a large majority of the CA football talent, is the same as Roanoke to Orlando.

And Nebraska doesn't have fertile recruiting grounds, but Missouri, Oklahoma and Texas all have great recruiting areas.

Nebraska certainly isn't what it used to be, and no-one knows if this hire will work out. But arguing that Riley had an easy time recruiting at Oregon State is stupid.
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By bluejacket
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VAGolf wrote:You can't look at a team's roster to determine where they're getting players from. I believe the last time I looked, Liberty had over a hundred players listed on their roster. Yet, we only have 63 scholarships. So, if you're going to determine how one recruits, you have to look at how their recruiting...Riley spent a ton of time in Texas.

Yes, many of his kids did come from California and that state does have great high school football. But the best schools are in Southern California. The distance between Oregon State and a large majority of the CA football talent, is the same as Roanoke to Orlando.

And Nebraska doesn't have fertile recruiting grounds, but Missouri, Oklahoma and Texas all have great recruiting areas.

Nebraska certainly isn't what it used to be, and no-one knows if this hire will work out. But arguing that Riley had an easy time recruiting at Oregon State is stupid.
Rosters accurately reflect where the emphasis is. Turner Gill is branching further out every year, but Liberty's recruiting focus is still in VA, NC, and SC. The roster reflects that. Riley spent time in Texas. I won't dispute that. But adding an average of two players from Texas to the roster each season doesn't make him a recruiting guru in that state. If anything it shows how mediocre he is when it comes to Texas recruiting. Signing two players from Texas to Liberty each year is impressive (which is happening); getting two players to Oregon State is not.

OSU's Southern California recruits and their parents can easily see an Oregon State game every year (and many seasons twice). At Nebraska, recruits and their parents from Missouri, Oklahoma or Texas are driving to Lincoln to see a game. The Cornhuskers aren't playing any games in any of those states for the foreseeable future. Missouri and Oklahoma are above average from a recruiting standpoint, but are dominated by their respective state schools. Texas is excellent, but now that Nebraska is in the Big Ten and TCU and Baylor are better, that state is getting even more difficult to recruit than it historically already was for the Huskers. It is far, far easier to get talented players from California to Oregon State than it is from Texas to Nebraska.
By ALUmnus
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Names being thrown around for UM are Steve Addazio, Kyle Whittingham, Greg Schiano, the Harbaugh, Gary Pinkel....Butch Jones apparently said no thanks.

In my opinion, they needed to have a permanent AD in place before this whole process started. To have an interim guy doing all this creates too much uncertainty and indecisiveness.
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