[SuperJon]

I am not a fan of the mindset that you can not possibly rally around a team if you are being critical. I will be cheering my butt off come Saturday and my wife will give me plenty of weird looks along the way. I love this school and want nothing but the best. I am very critical and do think this team is much of the same but I hope I am dead wrong.

Now beat the living crap out of coastal!

Couldn't have said it better.

[R i]

Be Critical, its fine. Its bad timing in my opinion because everything is still at stake and our goals are still obtainable. We knew all along, we would have to beat Coastal.

And calling the coach a liar because of the way he handled Woodrum's situation is a stretch. Thats a step beyond critical.

[Schfourteenteen]

Be Critical, its fine. Its bad timing in my opinion because everything is still at stake and our goals are still obtainable. We knew all along, we would have to beat Coastal.

And calling the coach a liar because of the way he handled the Woodrum's situation is a stretch. Thats a step beyond critical.

Let's clear this up:

SuperJon is a terrible person.

Alright, we're good to move forward. Stop whining.

[SuperJon]

I'm a horrible person.

And, for the record, I said he lied about a situation, not that he was a liar. You can do something once without that action defining the type of person you are.

[R i]

Youve added a good ammount to the conversation, thank you.

[R i]

I respect SJs opinion on the board, and I respect him as a person, but Im sharing my opinion.

He and his "fire Gill" , "Gills not the guy", " Gills a Liar" , Thats all his entitled opinion, no problems. Its my opinion that is terrible timing to be calling for the head coach's job.

[SuperJon]

That's why I respond to you more than most. You have your opinion and I have mine. I respect yours and vice versa. We just happen to disagree.

[bluejacket]

He and his "fire Gill" , "Gills not the guy", " Gills a Liar" , Thats all his entitled opinion, no problems. Its my opinion that is terrible timing to be calling for the head coach's job.

No one has said "fire Gill" or called him a liar. A couple of people (including SJ) have been saying that Gill isn't the guy for months.

What happens this weekend will play a huge role in shaping that discussion going forward.

[R i]

If Liberty beats the number 1 team in the country on the road, (we had them down by 19 twice last year), and we make it to the playoffs, Will your opinions of Gill change ?

I know if we lose, mine will waiver a bit. Im just saving my judgments or praises until after the game Saturday.

[R i]

No one has said "fire Gill" or called him a liar. A couple of people (including SJ) have been saying that Gill isn't the guy for months.

Gills not the guy going forward = Fire Gill
Gill Lied about Josh's situation = Gill is a Liar

Lets not play semantics, call it how it is.

[SuperJon]

I don't know that it would change mine too much. I would celebrate it and celebrate him getting us over the hump, but I don't know that one game will completely negate an opinion based on 34 others.

[SuperJon]

No one has said "fire Gill" or called him a liar. A couple of people (including SJ) have been saying that Gill isn't the guy for months.

Gills not the guy going forward = Fire Gill
Gill Lied about Josh's situation = Gill is a Liar

Lets not play semantics, call it how it is.

I don't think he's a liar. I think he feels pressure and made a mistake and lied in a moment.

Also, I haven't decided if I think he should be fired this year or given next to prove himself. That will be determined Saturday.

[bluejacket]

Gills not the guy going forward = Fire Gill
Gill Lied about Josh's situation = Gill is a Liar

Lets not play semantics, call it how it is.

It is not playing semantics.

Saying Gill is not the guy does not equal "Fire him right now." Saying that Gill lied about Josh's injury and timing does not mean that a person said, "Gill is a liar."

[Kolzilla41]

I'm a horrible person.

And, for the record, I said he lied about a situation, not that he was a liar. You can do something once without that action defining the type of person you are.

Not to start another debate but I am not sure I agree with this.

[From the class of 09]

Gills not the guy going forward = Fire Gill
Gill Lied about Josh's situation = Gill is a Liar

Lets not play semantics, call it how it is.

It is not playing semantics.

Saying Gill is not the guy does not equal "Fire him right now." Saying that Gill lied about Josh's injury and timing does not mean that a person said, "Gill is a liar."

BeeJay someone's poaching your man

[bluejacket]

If Liberty beats the number 1 team in the country on the road, (we had them down by 19 twice last year), and we make it to the playoffs, Will your opinions of Gill change ?

Lots of things would have to happen for me to change my opinion of Turner Gill and they can still happen this season. Saturday's game can be the start of that change, but it will take more than that. My fundamental opinions will not change based on Saturday's outcome (barring our complete collapse and a massive beatdown).

That said, I very much doubt that it will.

[R i]

BJ, is in a dilema. His kool aid tastes so good, but his ManCrush is dumping the kool aid down the drain. What to do.

Id say you sit this one out Beej. Blue Jacket is handling the mop up duty for SJ just fine.

Sorry Super. Fun at your expense.

[BJWilliams]

BJ, is in a dilema. His kool aid tastes so good, but his ManCrush is dumping the kool aid down the drain. What to do.

Id say you sit this one out Beej. Blue Jacket is handling the mop up duty for SJ just fine.

Sorry Super. Fun at your expense.

Eh...not really a dilemma R i. I have a healthy respect for him, but I also know that the only perfect person in the history of the universe isn't him (and Im pretty sure left this earth about 1800 or so years before football was invented). That said, if y'all wanna e-fight, knock yourselves out.

[jcmanson]

Game preview & prediction
http://www.libertyflamesnation.com/coas ... rediction/

[Rooster Cogburn]

If it's that low scoring, I will be shocked........

Traitor

[flamesfilmguy]

Game preview & prediction
http://www.libertyflamesnation.com/coas ... rediction/

So wait... JC's not gonna get flack for that prediction but I'm a buzz kill and not a true fan for speaking my mind about a similar opinion on the outcome?

[From the class of 09]

Game preview & prediction
http://www.libertyflamesnation.com/coas ... rediction/

Boo

[thepostman]

Does Duke still think we win this game??

I thought the company line was we win this game, no questions asked.

[ballcoach15]

watch for fake punt.

[Purple Haize]

Does Duke still think we win this game??

I thought the company line was we win this game, no questions asked.

In defense of BYD he doesn't always carry the LU water. It's got to be a difficult line to walk. The Admin can be sorta ultra defensive and paranoid and then we lose access.