If roundball is your blood, this is the place to discuss the Flames as they move into the Ritchie McKay era for the 2nd time.

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#404026
olldflame wrote:I thought you were moving on TBGBG. Apparently not. If you want to spend the time, you can find youtube clips of every premiere shot-blocker on the planet getting it in their face from lesser dunkers than John Williams. FYI, he is now doing it for a living for the Trotters. Sommy averaged a shot block every 10 minutes he was on the court his Freshman year, and was doing better than that at the end of the season.
Cmon now OldFlame... You should know better :wink:

I only come back to stir the pot, Im sure ill be MIA again in no time.
#404028
Bigsouthking wrote:
T or C -- I agree with recruiter part. Not being a tremendous coach part... Point being, in 5 years as HC who did RD beat that he SHOULD NOT have beaten? Did he over achieve ever?
Exactly, he recruited good enough to be a top the BSC.
Its easy to "over achieve" when all you do is talk about how good everyone else is and how you should be lucky to finish 8th. RD believed Liberty would win every game. Its not about over achieving, its about ACHIEVING!

Rant over.
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TylerBakersGonnaBGreat wrote:
Bigsouthking wrote:
T or C -- I agree with recruiter part. Not being a tremendous coach part... Point being, in 5 years as HC who did RD beat that he SHOULD NOT have beaten? Did he over achieve ever?
Exactly, he recruited good enough to be a top the BSC.
Its easy to "over achieve" when all you do is talk about how good everyone else is and how you should be lucky to finish 8th. RD believed Liberty would win every game. Its not about over achieving, its about ACHIEVING!

Rant over.
again RD went 2-1-2-3 in 5 years from taking over a disaster....was not allowed to coach his best team. No one did it before him or since...and if I remember Greg Marshall had some good Winthrop teams. Let him coach the guys he recruited in BJ, Ant, TJ, Brew, and ALex
By olldflame
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Cider Jim wrote:While there have been multiple references to RD, RM, and SC, no one has mentioned JR Coronado. Isn't he supposed to be the second coming of Aluma and Julius? Has anyone seen him play or practice this fall?

https://www.flamefans.com/forums/viewto ... =3&t=18043
The OP of this thread saw JR play in a couple of pickup games, and apparently was impressed, referring to him as a "straight man", which of course, this being FF, led to several Atrain references.
By Bigsouthking
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truthorconsequences wrote:
TylerBakersGonnaBGreat wrote:
Bigsouthking wrote:
T or C -- I agree with recruiter part. Not being a tremendous coach part... Point being, in 5 years as HC who did RD beat that he SHOULD NOT have beaten? Did he over achieve ever?
Exactly, he recruited good enough to be a top the BSC.
Its easy to "over achieve" when all you do is talk about how good everyone else is and how you should be lucky to finish 8th. RD believed Liberty would win every game. Its not about over achieving, its about ACHIEVING!

Rant over.
again RD went 2-1-2-3 in 5 years from taking over a disaster....was not allowed to coach his best team. No one did it before him or since...and if I remember Greg Marshall had some good Winthrop teams. Let him coach the guys he recruited in BJ, Ant, TJ, Brew, and ALex
Disagree -- he still would have only finished 3rd at best behind UNCA and Winthrop that year. -- but no one has answered my question yet... who did RD beat that he SHOULD NOT have beaten??? proves my point he's a better recruiter than coach!

Now granted I'm not sure much else has been accomplished since the RD fireing...
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By El Scorcho
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Wow. We can't even talk about the 2012-2013 team without getting into that old mess? It's been FIVE YEARS. We may have to institute an RD-related rule in order to prevent every basketball post from being poisoned. This is ridiculous.
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By bballfan84
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truthorconsequences wrote:
TylerBakersGonnaBGreat wrote:
Bigsouthking wrote:
T or C -- I agree with recruiter part. Not being a tremendous coach part... Point being, in 5 years as HC who did RD beat that he SHOULD NOT have beaten? Did he over achieve ever?
Exactly, he recruited good enough to be a top the BSC.
Its easy to "over achieve" when all you do is talk about how good everyone else is and how you should be lucky to finish 8th. RD believed Liberty would win every game. Its not about over achieving, its about ACHIEVING!

Rant over.
again RD went 2-1-2-3 in 5 years from taking over a disaster....was not allowed to coach his best team. No one did it before him or since...and if I remember Greg Marshall had some good Winthrop teams. Let him coach the guys he recruited in BJ, Ant, TJ, Brew, and ALex
This is so overplayed and exhausting let it go RD and Mckay who cares...no one is going to sway anyone else's opinion. I played for RD for two years and to be honest I think hes garbage as a coach and quite frankly dont think to highly of him as a person...however JUST LET IT GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Bigsouthking wrote:
Disagree -- he still would have only finished 3rd at best behind UNCA and Winthrop that year. -- but no one has answered my question yet... who did RD beat that he SHOULD NOT have beaten??? proves my point he's a better recruiter than coach!

Now granted I'm not sure much else has been accomplished since the RD fireing...
Just 1?

Ok.

http://www.libertyflames.com/index.cfm? ... 2&TeamID=6

Should you argue this... You are obviously out of your mind and dont deserve a response. (Not Pointed at BigSouthKing, just saying in general.)
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By jcmanson
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TylerBakersGonnaBGreat wrote:
Bigsouthking wrote:
Disagree -- he still would have only finished 3rd at best behind UNCA and Winthrop that year. -- but no one has answered my question yet... who did RD beat that he SHOULD NOT have beaten??? proves my point he's a better recruiter than coach!

Now granted I'm not sure much else has been accomplished since the RD fireing...
Just 1?

Ok.

http://www.libertyflames.com/index.cfm? ... 2&TeamID=6

Should you argue this... You are obviously out of your mind and dont deserve a response. (Not Pointed at BigSouthKing, just saying in general.)
Yes, what a great season you just reminded me of, thanks!!

And I know you brought that up because you wanted to be reminded of LB's greatness :D
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By flameshaw
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truthorconsequences wrote:
TylerBakersGonnaBGreat wrote:
Bigsouthking wrote:
T or C -- I agree with recruiter part. Not being a tremendous coach part... Point being, in 5 years as HC who did RD beat that he SHOULD NOT have beaten? Did he over achieve ever?
Exactly, he recruited good enough to be a top the BSC.
Its easy to "over achieve" when all you do is talk about how good everyone else is and how you should be lucky to finish 8th. RD believed Liberty would win every game. Its not about over achieving, its about ACHIEVING!

Rant over.
again RD went 2-1-2-3 in 5 years from taking over a disaster....was not allowed to coach his best team. No one did it before him or since...and if I remember Greg Marshall had some good Winthrop teams. Let him coach the guys he recruited in BJ, Ant, TJ, Brew, and ALex
Based on all the HC or Asst. D1 job offers he has received, maybe you have him over rated just a tad. :lol:
By Bigsouthking
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#404243
TylerBakersGonnaBGreat wrote:
Bigsouthking wrote:
Disagree -- he still would have only finished 3rd at best behind UNCA and Winthrop that year. -- but no one has answered my question yet... who did RD beat that he SHOULD NOT have beaten??? proves my point he's a better recruiter than coach!

Now granted I'm not sure much else has been accomplished since the RD fireing...
Just 1?

Ok.

http://www.libertyflames.com/index.cfm? ... 2&TeamID=6

Should you argue this... You are obviously out of your mind and dont deserve a response. (Not
Pointed at BigSouthKing, just saying in general.)
For real?? Beating a conference foe is a nice win? LU should beat the eagles on a regualr basis! Geez. I know some years are stronger than others but....c'mon MAN!
By IMBach
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Bigsouthking wrote:
TylerBakersGonnaBGreat wrote:
Bigsouthking wrote:
Disagree -- he still would have only finished 3rd at best behind UNCA and Winthrop that year. -- but no one has answered my question yet... who did RD beat that he SHOULD NOT have beaten??? proves my point he's a better recruiter than coach!

Now granted I'm not sure much else has been accomplished since the RD fireing...
Just 1?

Ok.

http://www.libertyflames.com/index.cfm? ... 2&TeamID=6

Should you argue this... You are obviously out of your mind and dont deserve a response. (Not
Pointed at BigSouthKing, just saying in general.)
For real?? Beating a conference foe is a nice win? LU should beat the eagles on a regualr basis! Geez. I know some years are stronger than others but....c'mon MAN!
wasn't Winthrop very good during RD years.
#404353
Bigsouthking wrote:
TylerBakersGonnaBGreat wrote:
Bigsouthking wrote:
Disagree -- he still would have only finished 3rd at best behind UNCA and Winthrop that year. -- but no one has answered my question yet... who did RD beat that he SHOULD NOT have beaten??? proves my point he's a better recruiter than coach!

Now granted I'm not sure much else has been accomplished since the RD fireing...
Just 1?

Ok.

http://www.libertyflames.com/index.cfm? ... 2&TeamID=6

Should you argue this... You are obviously out of your mind and dont deserve a response. (Not
Pointed at BigSouthKing, just saying in general.)
For real?? Beating a conference foe is a nice win? LU should beat the eagles on a regualr basis! Geez. I know some years are stronger than others but....c'mon MAN!
You asked for a game that he should not have won. I gave you one. That WU team was LOADED, but I guess that isnt good enough. Ill try to find a time where we beat the Lakers next time. :roll:

That was the season we won less than 8 games and cut 3-4 starters before the season started for different reasons. I dont know what you're looking for here man.
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