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By BJWilliams
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campus perspective mostly...we have North Campus/Green Hall, then Dorm 26-33 is considered South Campus, which makes the dorms off 460 East Campus...you follow me Shirley?
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By Purple Haize
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BJWilliams wrote:campus perspective mostly...we have North Campus/Green Hall, then Dorm 26-33 is considered South Campus, which makes the dorms off 460 East Campus...you follow me Shirley?
It still is geodirectionally challenged. And don't cal me Shirley! :)
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By flamesfan30
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... but so is a road that can simultaneously be marked as west(460) south(29) and east(501) at the same time. :shock:
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By Purple Haize
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flamesfan30 wrote:... but so is a road that can simultaneously be marked as west(460) south(29) and east(501) at the same time. :shock:
Which is why I always give directions using landmarks!
By rogers3
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BJWilliams wrote:campus perspective mostly...we have North Campus/Green Hall, then Dorm 26-33 is considered South Campus, which makes the dorms off 460 East Campus...you follow me Shirley?
...and maybe, the fact that it is the eastern-most portion of campus might play a part.
460 E/W is also 29 N/S.
By Echomalleus
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JLFJR wrote:
Wilberforce91 wrote:One idea that I think would work well for Liberty, especially when the Circle dorms are replaced, is having a parking garage (two or three levels) underneath a high-rise dorm. That's the way one of the new towers at UNC-Greensboro is set up and makes sense as it gives residential students closer access to their vehicles while opening up surface spots for faculty/commuters. Here are some pics: http://hrl.uncg.edu/living_on_campus/ha ... d/spgd.php Just a thought! Side Note: First post ever! Been surfing for a while but finally broke down and registered.
This might actually be the only type of parking garage that would work on main campus because, if dorm students only are using it, it won't generate traffic during peak hours that campus roads cannot handle. I knew some good ideas would come from this forum. Thank you!
As far as good ideas, I have to commend you chancellor on the free gym membership for staff from 5am-8am. Great way to give an incentive for healthy living not just from a monetary perspective, but from a parking one as well. Maybe you didn't have anything to do with it, but I'm so excited about this!! Being free, regardless of the early hours is great for those of us that work at LUO all day sitting in a cube, and (more relevant to this particular thread) a great incentive to get the best parking spots on that side of campus.
By logic
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bigsmooth wrote:do you realize the cost of what you are are dreaming of? its a wonderful idea, but its not needed. our campus is looking better every day and using JMU as an example was correct. the highway landscape does look better there on I-81 than 460. also LU is not a big time school...yet. JMU is a fine school so get off your high horse. Their football team is dang sure better than ours,and quite frankly academically they are better so we should compare ourselves to them to get better, which in time we will. you are the only one here crying about an "eyesore".

Because when I think of "big-time university" I always think of JMU. I would rather we emulate the athletic departments of SEC schools and the academics of the ACC/Big Ten/Pac-12. When I think of big-time schools I think of those conferences plus the best of the Big12 mixed in. From what I've gathered of the Vision it is this...Alabama football, an overall Stanford athletics department, the academics of a Southern Cal, and the small bible college atmosphere of the school we've always been! JMU doesn't factor into any of those dreams.

As Haize would say, where is your vision?
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By Cider Jim
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logic wrote:From what I've gathered of the Vision it is this...Alabama football, an overall Stanford athletics department, the academics of a Southern Cal, and the small bible college atmosphere of the school we've always been!
Logic, you better get that copyrighted before someone steals it. :wink:
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By bigsmooth
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logic wrote:
bigsmooth wrote:do you realize the cost of what you are are dreaming of? its a wonderful idea, but its not needed. our campus is looking better every day and using JMU as an example was correct. the highway landscape does look better there on I-81 than 460. also LU is not a big time school...yet. JMU is a fine school so get off your high horse. Their football team is dang sure better than ours,and quite frankly academically they are better so we should compare ourselves to them to get better, which in time we will. you are the only one here crying about an "eyesore".

Because when I think of "big-time university" I always think of JMU. I would rather we emulate the athletic departments of SEC schools and the academics of the ACC/Big Ten/Pac-12. When I think of big-time schools I think of those conferences plus the best of the Big12 mixed in. From what I've gathered of the Vision it is this...Alabama football, an overall Stanford athletics department, the academics of a Southern Cal, and the small bible college atmosphere of the school we've always been! JMU doesn't factor into any of those dreams.

As Haize would say, where is your vision?
what are you smoking?? you conveniently took a conversation about our campus being an eyesore because of a highway running through it and because everyone disagreed with you, to talking about that JMU not a big time university, and your "vision". you have to crawl before you can walk and right now we need to be better than JMU not Bama, Stanford, or USC. we are not yet a big time university. we are not academically better than JMU, we are not better in football and hoops either. so get better than JMU in those aspects first. trust me i despise JMU, but facts are facts. nothing wrong with a vision or a BHAG, but you are part of the "i want it now crowd" and it simply takes time. so go back to your orginal point of the "big dig south" and improving our eyesore of a campus.
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By jbock13
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logic wrote:

Because when I think of "big-time university" I always think of JMU.
huh? wuhhhhhh?
By flamehunter
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Purple Haize wrote:I think we should provide hover craft for all incoming Freshmen
They will be around by 2015. I saw it on Back to the Future!
By logic
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jbock13 wrote:
logic wrote:

Because when I think of "big-time university" I always think of JMU.
huh? wuhhhhhh?

Read again our debate.

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By logic
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bigsmooth wrote:
logic wrote:
bigsmooth wrote:do you realize the cost of what you are are dreaming of? its a wonderful idea, but its not needed. our campus is looking better every day and using JMU as an example was correct. the highway landscape does look better there on I-81 than 460. also LU is not a big time school...yet. JMU is a fine school so get off your high horse. Their football team is dang sure better than ours,and quite frankly academically they are better so we should compare ourselves to them to get better, which in time we will. you are the only one here crying about an "eyesore".

Because when I think of "big-time university" I always think of JMU. I would rather we emulate the athletic departments of SEC schools and the academics of the ACC/Big Ten/Pac-12. When I think of big-time schools I think of those conferences plus the best of the Big12 mixed in. From what I've gathered of the Vision it is this...Alabama football, an overall Stanford athletics department, the academics of a Southern Cal, and the small bible college atmosphere of the school we've always been! JMU doesn't factor into any of those dreams.

As Haize would say, where is your vision?
what are you smoking?? you conveniently took a conversation about our campus being an eyesore because of a highway running through it and because everyone disagreed with you, to talking about that JMU not a big time university, and your "vision". you have to crawl before you can walk and right now we need to be better than JMU not Bama, Stanford, or USC. we are not yet a big time university. we are not academically better than JMU, we are not better in football and hoops either. so get better than JMU in those aspects first. trust me i despise JMU, but facts are facts. nothing wrong with a vision or a BHAG, but you are part of the "i want it now crowd" and it simply takes time. so go back to your orginal point of the "big dig south" and improving our eyesore of a campus.

1. You justified 460 running through campus by saying "but JMU has 81 going through campus and they're doing ok" or something similar.

2. I said "wait a minute, let us not start comparing ourselves to James Madison of all places, let us strive to dream much bigger and better." I stand by that. We need to model ourselves after bigger and better universities than James Madison. We've caught them in 40 years and they had a 70 year head start. JMU is amedium sized state regional state school that will always be a second class destination for the kids that couldn't play football at Tech or get into UVA.

Liberty on the other hand will be THE destination for Christian young people everywhere in the cworld who want the big-time Division I athletic environment of an SEC school, the academics of an ACC school, and the campus feel of a small bible college.

Tell me about the vision of James Madison University?


3. I am of the "I want it now crowd"....not sure where that salvo came from. Seeing a vision and then wanting people here to look bigger and better than JAMES MADISON of all places...how is that wanting it all now?

You say - we need to be like James Madison, a fine role model for where we are going.
I say - Let us look much bigger than James Madison, for where we are going is far grander.


In layman's terms - if you want to be the best, model the best, don't look to a regional school and FCS program when trying to build Alabama/USC.

Even more general layman's terms -

Do you think Jeff Barber came in here from SOUTH CAROLINA and the SEC and said "ok we're going to model James Madison's program" ??? No!!! He came in and used his experience in the SEC to build our athletic department. No doubt HE is looking much bigger than JMU when looking at models of where we want to go!
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By Purple Haize
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SMOOTH- you have only yourself to blame :)
Although I thought it was the Academics of USC not the ACC? Maybe I didn't read it right.
logic- you went off on a tangent. Having 460 'run thru campus' is not that big a deal. It has nothing to do with vision or a Stanford level athletic department. The only comparison being made is the fact that another University in the state and showing growth happens to have a MAJOR US Interstate 'running thru it'. It has not detered their growth. All we have is a highway. It was here when we started and can't really see it being moved or covered for our sake.
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By jbock13
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Logic, I must say I fully apologize for my small-minded myopic universe I've been living in. I wanted to be just like BJU, but heck, we can be even better than Alabama! And the best part, we even have God on our side!

I get your points, but you take them far to their extremes, constantly.

p.s: I kind of like 460 being nearby, it makes that 43 mile trip go by much faster.
By Hold My Own
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Having 460 is a huge positive. The only other option is have campus placed in the middle of Wards Road and having those awful streets as the main arteries.
By chisox1
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I thought nothing of 460 running through the campus when I first saw it last year when we took our daughter to "Friendly Friday". Liberty has a beautiful campus with awesome improvements coming. It takes time for these things to happen. We visited many campuses in my daughters search for a university home the likes of: TCU, Texas, Baylor, Florida, Illinois, South Florida and a few others; and they all had beautiful campuses that took decades to get where they are today. And that being said they were not perfect. Like I said in another post on a thread that must have been deleted. Rome was not built in one day. You guys are still new kids on the block being only 41 years old; and yet you are already surpassing many schools three times your age. :!:

I live in the suburbs of Chicago (and yes my daughter is a freshman at Liberty) and around here the universities build buildings were ever they can squeeze them in. UIC (Illinois-Chicago) in downtown Chicago is a good example. I could not tell where the campus ended and the city began. The same goes for Marquette in Milwaukee. Liberty should be thankful for 460 because it is a vital link for the university to the rest of the world. Lynchburg would have benefited greatly from a interstate coming to it or a spur off of 81 in Roanoke coming your way. That being said 460 has a interstate quality to it at times; especially near Lynchburg.

During our college search we went to the University of Texas; and there interstate 35 runs on the east side of the campus with some of the campus bleeding over to the other side. That is where the baseball stadium is located and yet no one I talked to thought anything of it. I kind of see the same thing going on with 460 splitting main campus from east campus at Liberty...

Kind of a non issue. :)
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By Sly Fox
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Resisting ... the ... temptation ... to ... talk ... about ... the ... Longhorns ...

Seriously, I agree completely with chisox1.
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By Purple Haize
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chisox1 wrote:I thought nothing of 460 running through the campus when I first saw it last year when we took our daughter to "Friendly Friday". Liberty has a beautiful campus with awesome improvements coming. It takes time for these things to happen. We visited many campuses in my daughters search for a university home the likes of: TCU, Texas, Baylor, Florida, Illinois, South Florida and a few others; and they all had beautiful campuses that took decades to get where they are today. And that being said they were not perfect. Like I said in another post on a thread that must have been deleted. Rome was not built in one day. You guys are still new kids on the block being only 41 years old; and yet you are already surpassing many schools three times your age. :!:

I live in the suburbs of Chicago (and yes my daughter is a freshman at Liberty) and around here the universities build buildings were ever they can squeeze them in. UIC (Illinois-Chicago) in downtown Chicago is a good example. I could not tell where the campus ended and the city began. The same goes for Marquette in Milwaukee. Liberty should be thankful for 460 because it is a vital link for the university to the rest of the world. Lynchburg would have benefited greatly from a interstate coming to it or a spur off of 81 in Roanoke coming your way. That being said 460 has a interstate quality to it at times; especially near Lynchburg.

During our college search we went to the University of Texas; and there interstate 35 runs on the east side of the campus with some of the campus bleeding over to the other side. That is where the baseball stadium is located and yet no one I talked to thought anything of it. I kind of see the same thing going on with 460 splitting main campus from east campus at Liberty...

Kind of a non issue. :)
Welcome to the board but as a Cubs fan and someone who attended college and seminary outside of Chicago I find your screen name highly offensive!
Nice UIC reference, you must have a Flames fetish. It also reminded me thay Illinois Tech also has the 'highway problem'. I'm sure there are more but your point is valid.
Don't be a stranger, but I'm sure it's hard to post dodging gunfire, crack Ho's and dealers on your way to US Cellular Field!
By logic
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I am partial to a "college town" feel with a campus that is separate from the town but right next to it.

Think Blacksburg, where VT is on one side of the street and "downtown" Blacksburg on the other. Kids living off campus can walk to class by simply crossing a small college town street. UVA is similar. Athens/UGA much the same. I've been to UT's campus and wasn't a fan of the facilities on the other side of I-35. Likewise I am not a huge fan of the train tracks and four lane road running right through A&M's campus.

How can you honestly look at this picture and say it is aesthetically pleasing?

http://p.twimg.com/AZd3Mn8CEAEBn7w.jpg:large

Hindsight is 20/20, but I'll argue our campus would look better with more dorms / academic buildings there and not a highway.
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By Sly Fox
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I don't believe we had much to do with the decision to have 460 placed where it was. But i could be wrong. I believe the right of way had been purchased before we even bought the mountain. But count me as among those who loves having the access from the highway at the core of our campus and all of the traffic coming by to witness what God has given us.
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