[Purple Haize]

Brady, don't mind Haize. He's our resident pessimistic troll under the bridge who yearns for regional rivalries with the likes of James Madison and App State, or what the dreamers like me consider glorified FCS football.

Keep in mind the words of our Chancellor - "Liberty is a national school and we don't mind playing in a national, not regional conference" or something similar.

Yeah. Regional rivalries worked so poorly for the Big East ACC PAC 10.......

[R i]

If there is a WAC-E with several east coast teams, WAC-E > CAA

[Purple Haize]

If there is a WAC-E with several east coast teams, WAC-E > CAA

Agreed. But I'm just a regional rivalry neophyte. What do I know....

[Blessed1]

Any guesses on who the mystery 8 schools are? I would have guessed Delaware would be one, but the coach of Delaware seems to think otherwise.

“I know Delaware wants to be part of this conference in the worst way,” Keeler said at CAA Media Day at M&T Bank Stadium. “I also know Delaware’s not going to run out of this conference because there’s a chance it might not exist. ... We know we’ll land somewhere. We want to land here. Delaware wants to be one of the [stabilizing] forces in this conference.”

http://www.delawareonline.com/article/2 ... 1?gcheck=1

[ballah09]

i think Jones might've gotten JMU mixed up with another school because weren't they rumored to deny cusa? anyway from what i got out of todays wac media is that there are a bunch of fcs football only schools wanting to get in. I think the long rumored four; Liberty, Appy, Jax State, and Lamar are the ones ready to go in 2013. For all sports? i don't know, i think so. I think we will be hearing the first wave of invites soon. hence the couple of weeks. with the four and a couple of schools for olympic sports. obvious they are going to focus this year on olympic sports but in 2014-15 i think the next wave of football schools; ga southern, ndsu, jmu, etc. come along. (the confidential schools, whoever they are)

[jlread]

i think Jones might've gotten JMU mixed up with another school because weren't they rumored to deny cusa? anyway from what i got out of todays wac media is that there are a bunch of fcs football only schools wanting to get in. I think the long rumored four; Liberty, Appy, Jax State, and Lamar are the ones ready to go in 2013. For all sports? i don't know, i think so. I think we will be hearing the first wave of invites soon. hence the couple of weeks. with the four and a couple of schools for olympic sports. obvious they are going to focus this year on olympic sports but in 2014-15 i think the next wave of football schools; ga southern, ndsu, jmu, etc. come along. (the confidential schools, whoever they are)

So what your saying is we will be FBS independent football 2013 as we get realigned for 2014 and Olympic sports will be WAC until the other schools join in your opinion??

"That would be super expensive and silly; for the other sports that would only have 3 eastern/texas schools for olympic sports and then all others a million miles away! "Stay in Big south for Olympic sports next year, join WAC thing as Independent football in 2013 with full membership as the WAC_E when All other Eastern Teams join in 2014"

[ballah09]

no just accept the invite. ODU and Charlotte are not playing FBS football until 2015 i believe. ODU is playing CAA football this year. Accepting doesn't mean right away.

[jlread]

ODY plays FBS next year. I actually caught a really good CAA interveiw program on espn radio yesterday and they went through an interviewed all the VA schools coaches as well as team capt's (ODU capt the phenom sophomore gonna have a BIG year) . ODU's coach said that their team motto is one team, one year, and one shot at the FCS Championship. He also complained about the CAA not having an answer why Rhode Island had no Exit fee but they did?

[jlread]

I think MAJOR history could be made for one of these potential WAC-E schools over the next decade or 2 . Has their ever been a FCS school that won a Championship and a BCS championship?

[Sly Fox]

I think MAJOR history could be made for one of these potential WAC-E schools over the next decade or 2 . Has their ever been a FCS school that won a Championship and a BCS championship?

No. Of course, Boise State gave it a run the past few years.

Teams typically are classified as independent during their transition years. But perhaps the NCAA might grant a waiver to help the WAC stay alive yet again.

I sincerely doubt Delaware is involved in this WAC-East concept. As crazy as it sounds, I wouldn't be shocked to see them in the Big East in the next couple of years.

As for URI, they still haven't actually left the CAA yet. And there are strong indications the exit may not happen after all based on CAA northern expansion in the coming weeks. So the URI comment holds no water. Oh yeah, I believe the CAA exit fee was enacted after URI has announced their intentions to depart.

[NotAJerry]

San Antonio
Austin-San Antonio midpoint on I-35
Miami
Boca Raton (Ft. Lauderdale suburbs/40 miles from Miami)
Navy plays anyone, anywhere and the other is neutral site.
Boston

Those things are all extremely different from Lynchburg, VA. 5 large markets and one team who is playing a military school and a neutral site game. None of that points to a team playing Liberty in Lynchburg just because of an FBS move (unless conference schedules require it). Boise St still had to travel to every major game they had to play until they got into a better conference and Boise is 2.5x bigger than Lynchburg.

Teams are willing to travel to recent FBS upstarts/lower conference teams to get their name/brand seen in a large market without paying for the advertising. Lynchburg doesn't offer that.

Liberty would get some better opponents to come in as I'm sure a Sun Belt or MAC type of school would come to play while we're in the WAC-E. We could also likely get some of those CAA/SoCon teams, but the major schools aren't coming to Lynchburg unless there's much more of a reason than just FBS status. The biggest benefit of moving up is going to be the expanded opportunity to play OOC road games against major programs and continue building the football program's reputation.

Why would any BCS team play @ Wyoming, or @ Idaho? Yet they do

Who does? Wyoming is a Mountain West team. Their conference has put teams in BCS bowls. That's a road win to help boost conference strength of schedule for the teams that went there. Idaho, in the WAC where we would be, has never hosted a BCS team.

[LUaddict]

Tony Jones is teasing some more on his supposed insider info on the four schools that may be picked for 2014 Football WAC-E.

Michael Scott ‏@usfmike

@Brian_Ewart @TonyAggieville Liberty, Appl State, Ga Southern and Lamar would be my guess

44m Tony Jones Tony Jones ‏@TonyAggieville

@usfmike @brian_ewart bravo...three of those schools are dead on.

He is saying that Liberty, App State, GSU, and Lamar are rumored to be part of those new additons to the WAC-E. Who would be the fourth team? Are we even included? (Devil's Advocate).

Go WAC-E!

[bradyfan]

San Antonio
Austin-San Antonio midpoint on I-35
Miami
Boca Raton (Ft. Lauderdale suburbs/40 miles from Miami)
Navy plays anyone, anywhere and the other is neutral site.
Boston

Those things are all extremely different from Lynchburg, VA. 5 large markets and one team who is playing a military school and a neutral site game. None of that points to a team playing Liberty in Lynchburg just because of an FBS move (unless conference schedules require it). Boise St still had to travel to every major game they had to play until they got into a better conference and Boise is 2.5x bigger than Lynchburg.

Teams are willing to travel to recent FBS upstarts/lower conference teams to get their name/brand seen in a large market without paying for the advertising. Lynchburg doesn't offer that.

Liberty would get some better opponents to come in as I'm sure a Sun Belt or MAC type of school would come to play while we're in the WAC-E. We could also likely get some of those CAA/SoCon teams, but the major schools aren't coming to Lynchburg unless there's much more of a reason than just FBS status. The biggest benefit of moving up is going to be the expanded opportunity to play OOC road games against major programs and continue building the football program's reputation.

Why would any BCS team play @ Wyoming, or @ Idaho? Yet they do

Who does? Wyoming is a Mountain West team. Their conference has put teams in BCS bowls. That's a road win to help boost conference strength of schedule for the teams that went there. Idaho, in the WAC where we would be, has never hosted a BCS team.

I'm not even going to take the time to point out how being in an FBS conference will help us host a BCS conference team because if an FBS conference offers us a spot, we're accepting regardless of why you think we're better off being FCS. We didn't build a 20,000 seat stadium, announce we're expanding it to 30, and a multi-milllion dollar set of boxes to sit in the Big South.

[Cider Jim]

@Brian_Ewart @TonyAggieville Liberty, Appl State, Ga Southern and Lamar would be my guess

And I love how Liberty is listed FIRST!

[NotAJerry]

I'm not even going to take the time to point out how being in an FBS conference will help us host a BCS conference team because if an FBS conference offers us a spot, we're accepting regardless of why you think we're better off being FCS. We didn't build a 20,000 seat stadium, announce we're expanding it to 30, and a multi-milllion dollar set of boxes to sit in the Big South.

The size of the stadium has nothing to do with the validity of being able to try and host a BCS team while being in a tiny market and being in what will likely be the bottom conference at the FBS level. Why would UVA or VT come to play at Williams instead of hosting us in their stadiums that will both still be at least twice the size of Williams Stadium? They won't because both teams would make more money out of the deal if the game is at VT or UVA, there's no recruiting benefit for the bigger schools since the top kids in the Lynchburg area will still be considering them, the Lynchburg market is too small to matter as far as exposure, and we likely won't be bringing in major TV ratings for a while. There's literally no benefit for a BCS team to play at our place while we're in the WAC-E.

The benefit we get with BCS schools, on the initial move up, is that we would then count as an FBS opponent and can go play 1 or 2 big name opponents which will pump even more money into the program.

As far as the first part of things, maybe you should read the post where I said we absolutely must move up to FBS at the first opportunity no matter what. That has no bearing on living in reality about the chances of hosting a BCS team with a 24k or 30k stadium and not much else (yet).

[Purple Haize]

You know what they say about guys who say size doesn't matter.....

[rogers3]

Did anyone think to sit for a second and think "Who the hell is Scott Bilo?"

Come on... don't you know that Bilo is Borat's brother? There are a couple of Youtube videos where Borat talks about him, but you'll have to find them for yourself, as I might get banned if I post them.

[Blessed1]

Tony Jones is teasing some more on his supposed insider info on the four schools that may be picked for 2014 Football WAC-E.

Michael Scott ‏@usfmike

@Brian_Ewart @TonyAggieville Liberty, Appl State, Ga Southern and Lamar would be my guess

44m Tony Jones Tony Jones ‏@TonyAggieville

@usfmike @brian_ewart bravo...three of those schools are dead on.

He is saying that Liberty, App State, GSU, and Lamar are rumored to be part of those new additons to the WAC-E. Who would be the fourth team? Are we even included? (Devil's Advocate).

Go WAC-E!

The fourth team must be Jacksonville St. This is the core 4 that Benson mentioned last month.

Georgia Southern's inclusion puzzled me at first because their AD was quoted saying that they weren't moving anywhere, especially if the WAC gave them an invitation... Then it hit me. Realignment is all smoke and mirrors. Everyone is lying through their teeth right now.

[bradyfan]

I'm not even going to take the time to point out how being in an FBS conference will help us host a BCS conference team because if an FBS conference offers us a spot, we're accepting regardless of why you think we're better off being FCS. We didn't build a 20,000 seat stadium, announce we're expanding it to 30, and a multi-milllion dollar set of boxes to sit in the Big South.

The size of the stadium has nothing to do with the validity of being able to try and host a BCS team while being in a tiny market and being in what will likely be the bottom conference at the FBS level. Why would UVA or VT come to play at Williams instead of hosting us in their stadiums that will both still be at least twice the size of Williams Stadium? They won't because both teams would make more money out of the deal if the game is at VT or UVA, there's no recruiting benefit for the bigger schools since the top kids in the Lynchburg area will still be considering them, the Lynchburg market is too small to matter as far as exposure, and we likely won't be bringing in major TV ratings for a while. There's literally no benefit for a BCS team to play at our place while we're in the WAC-E.

The benefit we get with BCS schools, on the initial move up, is that we would then count as an FBS opponent and can go play 1 or 2 big name opponents which will pump even more money into the program.

As far as the first part of things, maybe you should read the post where I said we absolutely must move up to FBS at the first opportunity no matter what. That has no bearing on living in reality about the chances of hosting a BCS team with a 24k or 30k stadium and not much else (yet).

You completely missed my argument dude. I'm not talking about size being the reason why we'll accept, I'm talking about the investment we're putting into athletics...specifically football. We are investing loads of money into the program, and we will accept an offer from any FBS conference. I can guarantee you that.

[Purple Haize]

Don't let your bosses know you are guaranteeing that. You know what happened last time you claimed insider knowledge, or anytime you claimed insider knowledge. Trump 2012!

[TH Spangler]

http://www.appstatenation.com/2012/07/2 ... onference/

No WAC Football (as a conference) in 2013

WAC Football in 2014 of 2015? Maybe.

@ 24:30 ..... I think that was CAA?

Right now still need three more to make it work?

[Blessed1]

http://www.appstatenation.com/2012/07/2 ... onference/

No WAC Football (as a conference) in 2013

WAC Football in 2014 of 2015? Maybe.

@ 24:30 ..... I think that was CAA?

Right now still need three more to make it work?

You know what? I think the conference that asked to move up together was the MVFC. Hear's what I think went down... Hurd called the MVFC commish about NDSU and probably YSU. Their commish talked to all of his schools and they came up with a solution to take everyone. Hurd probably thought that if the entire MVFC moved up together, they would ditch the WAC before they could get some more western teams.

[jlread]

I can't understand if their waiver last through 2013 for FBS football why they wouldn't grab these 4 FCS teams and work with a patched up schedule to help Idaho an NnMSU. Unless its a tactic to hurry other teams to make a fast decision to jump on or maybe they just don't want to commit to anything public yet. I'm sure LU would go to NMSU an Idaho to play on 2013 if they repaid the favor in '14. Hurd didn't really rule anything out 100% I guess we just have to sit back and chomp on the bit a few more weeks. I figured the CAA were the ones that called about the full football move only.

[LU-Hoo]

I figured the CAA were the ones that called about the full football move only.

I can't imagine it was the CAA. I can't really think of a good reason why... Most schools not ready for a move up... Seems way too far out of the box thinking for CAA comish... Better options for other FCS invites to solidify conference as a FCS power at lower travel costs... Heavy B-Ball influence... Just can't see it.

[Blessed1]

Georgia Southern's AD Sam Baker resigned today. According to those on their message board, he was totally anti-FBS. Someone on GSU's board went as far as saying that he was resigning because their current president possibly favors FBS and the WAC-E idea. It will be interesting to see who GSU selects.

http://savannahnow.com/latest-news/2012 ... BMNN2E7WAg