[Purple Haize]

Well that's not so good.

Look who went and got all Eor on us

[logic]

Impatient. The vice of youth.

[Purple Haize]

Impatient. The vice of youth.

Yeah. Keep telling yourself that.

[jbock13]

Impatient. The vice of youth.

Not really. Your first mistake was to believe that conferences were throwing themselves at us. We can dream all these dreams (some of which I share), but it's no use if it's not reality. And right now it looks like we're stuck for now where we are. Let's embrace it and make the best of what we have.

[TH Spangler]

Sly, like the proposed Mountain West, Conference USA merger ..... would a CAA, WAC merger be a possibility?

http://www2.wataugademocrat.com/Sports/ ... -id-008231

[Purple Haize]

Impatient. The vice of youth.

Not really. Your first mistake was to believe that conferences were throwing themselves at us. We can dream all these dreams (some of which I share), but it's no use if it's not reality. And right now it looks like we're stuck for now where we are. Let's embrace it and make the best of what we have.

Or as they sy in certain branches of the military: Embrace the suck!

[BJWilliams]

I dont think you understand what that means (in your attempt to be funny)

[Purple Haize]

I dont think you understand what that means (in your attempt to be funny)

I know exactly what it means. In a much more personal way then you know

[Sly Fox]

Sly, like the proposed Mountain West, Conference USA merger ..... would a CAA, WAC merger be a possibility?

http://www2.wataugademocrat.com/Sports/ ... -id-008231

Not without the CAA going out of business and giving up the tourney money from VCU.

The CUSA-MWC merger talk was between two existing FBS leagues and it was still a mess to pull off.

That article was heavy on speculation. And when did the worst FBS team in America (Louisiana-Monroe) get into CUSA? Uh, they didn't. The biggest news was that Happy is blowing off the CAA as expected.

[RVAparks]

I wonder what the SoCon would do in response? They'd have 9 teams. Would they try to recoop all 3 teams? Maybe steal one Big South team and go to 10?

I think Kennesaw State is still a domino waiting to fall somewhere.

[Kricket]

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootbal ... f-proposal

After all this shakes out, I think we could start to see some more dominoes start to fall as far as conference realignment goes. I'm sure some of the moves are waiting for the 4 team playoff criteria to be finalized.

[Blessed1]

Idaho's Akey: Independence a real possibility

By BRIAN MURPHY

Idaho coach Robb Akey said the Vandals’ search for a football home could lead to independent status. Idaho is one of two football-playing schools left in the decimated Western Athletic Conference.

And without any obvious prospects for another Football Bowl Subdivision conference affiliation, Idaho could go without a league.

“I wouldn’t be surprised if we end up having to operate as an independent for a few years,” Akey said. “Is it the ideal answer? Absolutely not. I think it’s a necessity if we can’t get ourselves in a conference affiliation. It’s a necessity to remain at that level.”

The Vandals could return to the Big Sky Conference, a member of the Football Championship Subdivision. Akey said Idaho would be better positioned by remaining in the FBS.

“If some of the gurus are right and people are jumping around again in a couple years, you need to keep yourself in a position to be an option.”

Idaho President Duane Nellis said the school still is exploring three options, including independence and the Big Sky. Nellis said he has not given up hope of joining the Mountain West, either.

“We’ve worked hard to figure out a way to stay at the FBS level in football,” he said.

Nellis said he hopes the school can announce a decision about its athletic future before football season...

http://www.idahostatesman.com/2012/06/2 ... ility.html

[Blessed1]

WAC football is dead.

My thoughts exactly.

It's easy for us as fans to pick schools that could work for the WAC eastern division, but the bottom line is that conference presidents make the final decision concerning that matter.

If the WAC dies as a football conference, it's because the remaining football members could not convince the basketball members of the WAC east plan. But you know what? It's hard to convince people if your eyes are wandering. I believe that when the Big Sky schools said no, the WAC curled up in the fetal position.

The WAC has prided themselves to remain a western conference. I understand their logic. However, if the Big East (a soon to be non-major FBS football conference) can come up with a plan to save their conference, I have to respect them. After all, it's not like the Big East has had 50 years of experience like the WAC.

I do not know what went on behind the scenes. Maybe one of the Big 4 (Liberty, Jacksonville St, App St, Ga Southern) got cold feet. Maybe the money did not add up. Maybe Idaho and New Mexico St. could not see themselves traveling to the east coast. Maybe the WAC could not get a waiver from the NCAA. Maybe the WAC continues to operate like "a day late, a dollar short" organization. I don't know. The saddest part with the WAC is that none of the remaining WAC members will get a dime from departing members if the conference decides to fold.

[LUconn]

I don't see why the basketball schools or the football schools don't see or care about the value in what they have. An existing FBS conference with room for more teams is in demand by at the very least 4 schools. If they don't want to have any part of Eastern schools and are willing to go Indy or FCS, fine. Go ahead and do that, but vote us in first and a sack with a money sign on it might just show up at your door step. Even the basketball schools probably like money. If they let the football part of the WAC die, they're getting $0 for privileges that we (Not just LU) would probably pay a king's ransom for.

I think the idea of that may seem too sleazy or low brow to whoever is in charge. And so they'll let it die because colleges are too busy trying to keep a facade of not caring about money.

[Purple Haize]

So that's it? No other news?

Nope. Just the WAC's top secret nefarious conspiracy to take over the sporting world.

And the very real fact that we won't be receiving an invite from anybody

Maybe if I'd said 'probably' and 'this year' we would have had a better chance? (which is actually what I meant to say )
If there was an Eastern or even Midwestern conference in the same fix that the WAC was/is in our chances would be better. ( But please don't equate it to the Big East.) For instance, if the MAC had the same number of defections, adding the schools mentioned ad nauseum on here would make sense. IMO, the geography is too much of a barrier (insert Rocky Mountain joke here) for the other schools at this juncture.(GHW Bush joke here)

[phoenix]

I have a prediction to make on this. In three years, we will be reading this thread and breathing a sigh of relief that we didn't end up in a WAC-East conference. In five years, we will be reading this and laughing about how desperate we all sound to get out of the Big South. In ten years, nobody but old hags will remember Liberty playing in the Big South.

[LUinPA]

I have a prediction to make on this. In three years, we will be reading this thread and breathing a sigh of relief that we didn't end up in a WAC-East conference. In five years, we will be reading this and laughing about how desperate we all sound to get out of the Big South. In ten years, nobody but old hags will remember Liberty playing in the Big South.

Ut Oh, if your an old hag already, does that mean you are in trouble?

What should they remember today?

[drumnColby757]

Does anyone legitimately think we will receive an invite within 2 years?

[Sly Fox]

Within two years? Absolutely.

[phoenix]

I have a prediction to make on this. In three years, we will be reading this thread and breathing a sigh of relief that we didn't end up in a WAC-East conference. In five years, we will be reading this and laughing about how desperate we all sound to get out of the Big South. In ten years, nobody but old hags will remember Liberty playing in the Big South.

Ut Oh, if your an old hag already, does that mean you are in trouble?

What should they remember today?

I'm an old hag -- I'm luck I remember my password to log in here!

Oh, wait -- my laptop does that for me .....

[LUaddict]

From the Las Cruces Sun News-Dont pin your decision on Boise's State's decion regrading the WAC.

http://www.lcsun-news.com/las_cruces-sp ... stopparam=

WAC could add some FCS programs to its membership, in an attempt to remain afloat as a football league - not a terribly appealing option, but a possible option nonetheless.

[bluedevilflame]

I really don't care for the whole WAC East idea long term but just hope they will stay afloat and invite us so we can get our foot in the door in FBS

[jlread]

I would not be shocked if the WAC-E thing is much further along in its planning stage then whats being let on. It doesnt seem like these teams that are being mentioned for it would want to commit before it was 100% in the bag and condusive to them(after they finish the fall season). If they did wouldnt they endup like ODU not being allowed to go to the FCS playoffs per the CAA's restrictions for leaving?

[Blessed1]

I would not be shocked if the WAC-E thing is much further along in its planning stage then whats being let on. It doesnt seem like these teams that are being mentioned for it would want to commit before it was 100% in the bag and condusive to them(after they finish the fall season). If they did wouldnt they endup like ODU not being allowed to go to the FCS playoffs per the CAA's restrictions for leaving?

I agree. Plus, I also think there weren't enough football teams that had applied to the WAC for the 2013 season. I could be wrong. However, I've never heard of a conference extending an invite with not at least visiting a prospective school first.

By waiting for the 2014 season, the WAC can talk to TV execs/financial consultants about how much money each conference member could make under this new supposed east-west alignment. If it's not worth anyone's time, its not going to happen. If it's worth it, the WAC has a chance at convincing more eastern schools like Villanova and Youngstown St. to join. They already know they have Utah Valley, Cal State Bakersfield, UT- Pan American, and Grand Canyon in their back pocket to join for all sports except football. It's just the eastern wing that needs some tweaking. After 50 years of existence, I'm going to give the WAC the benefit of the doubt to make things happen for the 2014 season...

As for the CAA thing, its their policy that keeps departing schools from playing for a CAA championship. From what I understand, they're one of the few conferences that has a policy like that. It is also my understanding that ODU and Georgia St. can still play for an at-large bid in football, if they haven't gone over the 63 FCS scholarship limit.

[R i]

Within two years? Absolutely.

*Marking on Calendar*