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By Purple Haize
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Bigsouthking wrote:First of all sweaty pits---
....his attitude is selfish.
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

And yes he was selfish as a Frosh but it looks like he has bought into the 'Duke Way.' unlike say Austin Rivers
By bradyfan
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Bigsouthking wrote:First of all sweaty pits--- Curry isn't the only Big South player that could play in ACC... Blair, Reggie Williams, Primm, Dickey, Alonzo Coleman, DJ Covington. Those guys would be recruited by ACC schools if they decided to leave.

#1 - his brother success made it possible for him to leave
#2 - his last name/ daddy day care being friends with Jay Bilas is also why is at Dook..

Seth scoring 20 a game at LU was inflated stats anyway RMK let when shoot anytime and everyone was more worried about pre season POY Anthony Smith....his attitude is selfish.

Pfft. Blair? Williams? Primm? Dickey? hahahaha. Dude, you're on crack. Sure, they could have made those teams but none of them would have started much less averaged more than 10 points per game. Also, Blair averaged less assist than Curry in his freshman year at Liberty, so who's selfish?

Dude, these kids were well known before Stephen showed the SoCon up. Dell was a huge force at VaTech (btw, Greenburg should be fired for missing both of these kids) and both Curry's were ranked high in the state, coming out of high school. Additionally, many NBA scouts think Seth will be better than Stephen. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2793 ... phen-curry

Bleacherreport is a very legit source. So, don't give me any crap about how Seth is a product of his brother. Coach K wouldn't be starting him if he weren't a great all around player. He isn't just a shooter, he always gets assist when we need them and he's great at forcing turnovers. You only dislike him because he left Liberty. For whatever reason, many LU fans are under the delusion that just because you commit to Liberty, you're sentenced here.

I've never seen so many fans of a small school, get so mad at their own students for cheering for other teams. GET OVER IT. We are in the Big South, it's like being in a Division 2 conference with an auto bid to the D1 tournament. Not to mention, we have almost no history being successful in the Big South. 2 NCAA tournament trips in almost 20 years. What NBA caliber player would want to spend 4 years here?
By bradyfan
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Purple Haize wrote:
Bigsouthking wrote:First of all sweaty pits---
....his attitude is selfish.
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

And yes he was selfish as a Frosh but it looks like he has bought into the 'Duke Way.' unlike say Austin Rivers

+1.
By Bigsouthking
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I'm on crack?...

PH, Scar who is this moron sucking off Curry....

Reggie Williams starts for the CharlotteBobcats but u don't think he could play in the ACC

I wasnt a fan of Blair attitude but Curry couldn't hold Blair jock strap.

Scar tell this fool something...

Why do I argue with idiots..... I know to prove how idiotic people really are.
By bradyfan
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Bigsouthking wrote:I'm on crack?...

PH, Scar who is this moron sucking off Curry....

Reggie Williams starts for the CharlotteBobcats but u don't think he could play in the ACC

I wasnt a fan of Blair attitude but Curry couldn't hold Blair jock strap.

Scar tell this fool something...

Why do I argue with idiots..... I know to prove how idiotic people really are.
You're argument is a player who has started 9 games for the worst NBA franchise over the past four years? Everyone knows that team is being blown up so they can have a better shot at a 1st pick.

Would you mind providing at least some reasoning as to why you think Blair is better than Curry?

You're the idiotic one for holding bitterness to a player who is above our school's talent level.
By Bigsouthking
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Blair is way quicker, scores better, plays harder, tougher, etc... You have to remember if a guy transfers like to any school the guy gets to sit out and practice a whole year!!

Only thing curry does better is stand still and shoot.

Now how much better would Blair had been if he would have left after sophomore year championship season BTW, and sat out a year to get way better...

Reggie avg 10 points per game last year for the Golden state warriors. You must be one of those private school kids I was talking about in my other thread post.... SMH at stupidity.
By Hold My Own
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There was another Williams that could have put up just as good of numbers in the ACC and he played for us....
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By SumItUp
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Hold My Own wrote:There was another Williams that could have put up just as good of numbers in the ACC and he played for us....
BJ or Darryl?
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By El Scorcho
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Pot stirred.

El Scorcho out.
By bradyfan
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Bigsouthking wrote:Blair is way quicker, scores better, plays harder, tougher, etc... You have to remember if a guy transfers like to any school the guy gets to sit out and practice a whole year!!

Only thing curry does better is stand still and shoot.

Now how much better would Blair had been if he would have left after sophomore year championship season BTW, and sat out a year to get way better...

Reggie avg 10 points per game last year for the Golden state warriors. You must be one of those private school kids I was talking about in my other thread post.... SMH at stupidity.
Dude, Blair played against Birmingham Southern and Elon. Curry is playing against UNC, Ohio State, Kansas...etc. Secondly, the last three statements you mentioned are completely subjective. Back that up with some stats please.

Curry is excellent at driving the ball, forcing turnovers and creating plays. You've never watched him play a Duke game if you disagree with that.

I don't know how much better Blair would have been and I don't give a rat's behind. I'm not talking about what could have been, I'm talking about what is.

Dude, Golden State (last year) and Charlotte (this year) have something in common, they're terrible. The NBA is much different than many other leagues. Many teams choose to "blow their season up" in order to get a good lottery pick. Every team that Williams has been on, is trying to be terrible.

I never went to private school but why on earth would you generalize private school kids with stupidity? Many private school kids, especially from the Roanoke area, have a history of producing a far better education than local public schools. If you want to debate this in "The Courtyard', I'll gladly meet you there.
By bradyfan
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Hold My Own wrote:There was another Williams that could have put up just as good of numbers in the ACC and he played for us....

No there isn't . Why do you all seriously think that type of talent is so common among Big South schools? You could probably name 5 total Big South players (in the history of the conference) that could maybe make an ACC team, much less start. You're being ridiculous if you actually believe that those caliber athletes are choosing Big South teams.
By thepostman
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Again CJsweat making himself foolish. In a history of small D1 conferences there small lists of players who could've played at a higher level but for whatever reason wasn't recruited hard enough by those schools.

Larry Blair could've played for an ACC school. Would he have put up the same kind of numbers he did with LU? Of course not, but he would've done fine and would've started.

Of course this is just one of your meaningless arguments CJsweat so really it doesn't matter if you're right or wrong as long as you get to argue.
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By Purple Haize
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Hold My Own wrote:There was another Williams that could have put up just as good of numbers in the ACC and he played for us....
Who is Carl? He did come from a Big East School.
By LUconn
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Hold My Own wrote:and he 100% made the correct decision (if only considering his future pro career)

I couldn't disagree more. He has been overshadowed every single year he's been at Duke. By a freshman no less. He still can only play D well enough to avoid the bench. What's the closest case study we have to compare with if he had stayed? Hmmmmm. That's right, his brother was a national rock star for 2 years and couldn't possibly have raised his draft stock any higher. If Seth had stayed, his Sr year (this year) was going to be LOADED and I contend we could have very likely won NCAA tournament games.

Nothing is certain, but we all knew what was developing that year. Seth isn't even mentioned on any mock drafts on nbadraft.net or draftexpress for 2012 or 2013. He's still got another year. He better hope Duke doesn't recruit anymore top 10 guys or else he's going to need his last name to get him in the D league.
By Hold My Own
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Purple Haize wrote:
Hold My Own wrote:There was another Williams that could have put up just as good of numbers in the ACC and he played for us....
Who is Carl? He did come from a Big East School.

:nod
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By Purple Haize
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Hold My Own wrote:
Purple Haize wrote:
Hold My Own wrote:There was another Williams that could have put up just as good of numbers in the ACC and he played for us....
Who is Carl? He did come from a Big East School.

:nod
So SweatyPitts was wrong!
By ALUmnus
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cjsweat wrote:
Hold My Own wrote:There was another Williams that could have put up just as good of numbers in the ACC and he played for us....

No there isn't .
Yes, there was. His name was Carl Williams. He we pretty phenominal for us, was a transfer so only played a year or two, but did lead the nation in steals while he was here.
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By bradyfan
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LUconn wrote:
Hold My Own wrote:and he 100% made the correct decision (if only considering his future pro career)

I couldn't disagree more. He has been overshadowed every single year he's been at Duke. By a freshman no less. He still can only play D well enough to avoid the bench. What's the closest case study we have to compare with if he had stayed? Hmmmmm. That's right, his brother was a national rock star for 2 years and couldn't possibly have raised his draft stock any higher. If Seth had stayed, his Sr year (this year) was going to be LOADED and I contend we could have very likely won NCAA tournament games.

Nothing is certain, but we all knew what was developing that year. Seth isn't even mentioned on any mock drafts on nbadraft.net or draftexpress for 2012 or 2013. He's still got another year. He better hope Duke doesn't recruit anymore top 10 guys or else he's going to need his last name to get him in the D league.
Dude, you are dead wrong. Being overshadowed is by Austin Rivers and Kyrie Irving isn't a big deal at all. The kid gets talked about all the time, he's on ESPN once a week and he's going to get in an extra month of basketball that he wouldn't have if he stayed at LU. He's also playing against other pro-prospects and learning to do other things than shoot 3's. He's projected to go in the 2012 draft by DraftExpress, so I'm not sure what you're looking at. Also, by staying for another year, he's going to emerge as the leader that Coach K doesn't have this season. That will seriously raise his draft stock. Duke was a much better decision for Curry. You all are just mad because LU lost in the first round of the BigSouth and we would have done better had we had Curry. Why you're still bickering over this player is beyond me. He made the best decision for his professional career and even if he is graduating with Duke, he'll still get us points for playing a season here. Live your life through the windshield, not the rear view mirror. That's why we keep getting run over by crappy schools.
ALUmnus wrote:
cjsweat wrote:
Hold My Own wrote:There was another Williams that could have put up just as good of numbers in the ACC and he played for us....

No there isn't .
Yes, there was. His name was Karl Williams. He we pretty phenominal for us, was a transfer so only played a year or two, but did lead the nation in steals while he was here.
A. you found one player. Congrats. Find more than 5 and you'll have an argument. Again, I don't care about what one player "could do" but what one player "did." So, for all of you RD crazies, that leaves Blair out of it.

B. He transferred to the Big East, he didn't graduate in the Big South...My argument still stands that no one with NBA talent, wants to stay in this conference and Curry was right in leaving.
By ALUmnus
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I'm not even really sure what you're arguing about.
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By Purple Haize
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SWEATY you obviously don't know anything about Carl Williams.
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By jcmanson
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cjsweat wrote:Also, Blair averaged less assist than Curry in his freshman year at Liberty, so who's selfish?
I know you did not just compare Blair and Curry, and side with Curry. That's foe territory :furious
By LUconn
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cjsweat wrote:
LUconn wrote:
Hold My Own wrote:and he 100% made the correct decision (if only considering his future pro career)

I couldn't disagree more. He has been overshadowed every single year he's been at Duke. By a freshman no less. He still can only play D well enough to avoid the bench. What's the closest case study we have to compare with if he had stayed? Hmmmmm. That's right, his brother was a national rock star for 2 years and couldn't possibly have raised his draft stock any higher. If Seth had stayed, his Sr year (this year) was going to be LOADED and I contend we could have very likely won NCAA tournament games.

Nothing is certain, but we all knew what was developing that year. Seth isn't even mentioned on any mock drafts on nbadraft.net or draftexpress for 2012 or 2013. He's still got another year. He better hope Duke doesn't recruit anymore top 10 guys or else he's going to need his last name to get him in the D league.
Dude, you are dead wrong. Being overshadowed is by Austin Rivers and Kyrie Irving isn't a big deal at all. The kid gets talked about all the time, he's on ESPN once a week and he's going to get in an extra month of basketball that he wouldn't have if he stayed at LU. He's also playing against other pro-prospects and learning to do other things than shoot 3's. He's projected to go in the 2012 draft by DraftExpress, so I'm not sure what you're looking at. Also, by staying for another year, he's going to emerge as the leader that Coach K doesn't have this season. That will seriously raise his draft stock. Duke was a much better decision for Curry. You all are just mad because LU lost in the first round of the BigSouth and we would have done better had we had Curry. Why you're still bickering over this player is beyond me. He made the best decision for his professional career and even if he is graduating with Duke, he'll still get us points for playing a season here. Live your life through the windshield, not the rear view mirror. That's why we keep getting run over by crappy schools.
Man, you are so clueless. First of all, it's all just discussion and conjecture. We don't know what would have happened but it's interesting and entertaining to talk about. Nobody's actually mad. 2nd, it is a huge deal to be overshadowed by other players on your team if your goal is to make an NBA roster. He is not on either the 2012 or '13 mocks. I just read it like 8 times because you had me 2nd guessing my reading comprehension.
http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2012/
http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2013/
I guarantee you I follow college bball closer and nobody ever talks about him unless it's in a secondary sense. He's like the 3rd option on that team. With the team that we potentially had this year, his name would have been on ESPN all year long. Do you even remember Steph Curry? Dude got hyped 24/7 on ESPN. They would be drooling over version 2.0. I guess it all depends on what happens next year.
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By jcmanson
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To add to LUConn's point, look at all the press he got his freshman year here. He got more that year, than he has the past 3 years combined. Add 1 or 2 NCAA tourney appearances, and a team this year poised to make a tourney run and ESPN would be all over him.
By lynchburgwildcats
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cjsweat wrote:Additionally, many NBA scouts think Seth will be better than Stephen. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2793 ... phen-curry

Bleacherreport is a very legit source.
Writing for bleacher report does not make one an NBA scout. Additionally, anyone on the face of the earth can apply to be a writer for Bleacher Report. I in fact am a registered writer for Bleacher Report. I never write on there, I just signed up a while back to prove a point about how Bleacher Report is the furthest thing from a legitimate source.
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By RubberMallet
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steph only became household by getting to the elite 8. lu isn't getting to teh elite 8 with this curry on the team. i think its fairly safe to speculate that steph wasn't on any draft boards in 07 either.
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