[jbock13]

Well Rand Paul got in trouble with the TSA. I bet his conservative values made his a terroristic threat.

George Bush, what were you thinking when you came up withe this brilliant idea anyway?

[Purple Haize]

Agreed. Actually federalizing was a big push by the Dems. Their mantra was it cant be professional if it isn't federal! ( Read Unionized ). This is something that needs tweaked and kudos to Rand for not making a stink. He said he was more then willing to go through the metal detector again but not be patted down. I found it ironic he was able to rebook a flight and made it through with no problems!

[jbock13]

The TSA admins probably got on the phone real quick to just let him on the plane, lest this become a big story.

Have you seen it on the news this evening other than mentioned in passing? That's exactly what the TSA wants.

[TDDance234]

I'm on the Paul train, as well... even knowing he probably won't win. However, I can't stomach putting someone like Romney up to get blasted by the Dems and Obama. At the very minimum, Paul's platform is just intriguing enough to really push the left and perhaps energize a stagnant right. We saw what someone with a little fire could do in Palin, even if she was lipstick on a pig.

[LUconn]

You think any of these candidates are going to get blasted by Obama? I don't think there's anybody out there that is not at least underwhelmed by Obama. I think he's going to have his work cut out for him. He's certainly not going to be able to coast to an easy W on Hope this time.

[Purple Haize]

I think Newt will over reach but it would make good theater.
Mitt will tear him up with economics and Obamas only defense will be that the average person doesn't care about that.
Paul and Obama will be on diametrically opposed books.
Santorum would be Obamas best option.

[TDDance234]

You think any of these candidates are going to get blasted by Obama? I don't think there's anybody out there that is not at least underwhelmed by Obama. I think he's going to have his work cut out for him. He's certainly not going to be able to coast to an easy W on Hope this time.

Romney or Santorum would be eaten alive, IMO. They have nothing that McCain didn't last go-round but at least McCain had the whole POW thing going for him.

I believe Paul's the only one who gives him a run.

[Purple Haize]

TD. Romney would look like the adult in the room with Obama. He would expose Obamas lack of depth on a vast number of issues. He will make points that Obama doesn't even understand and stand by while he flails for an answer.
Newt would kick him while heis down lol

[LUconn]

Last time Obama was running on his lack of record, anti-incumbency and making history. He doesn't have any of those things this time.

[bradyfan]

TD. Romney would look like the adult in the room with Obama. He would expose Obamas lack of depth on a vast number of issues. He will make points that Obama doesn't even understand and stand by while he flails for an answer.
Newt would kick him while heis down lol

+1 haha

[RubberMallet]

TD. Romney would look like the adult in the room with Obama. He would expose Obamas lack of depth on a vast number of issues. He will make points that Obama doesn't even understand and stand by while he flails for an answer.
Newt would kick him while heis down lol

which romney would this be? certainly not mitt.

[RubberMallet]

Last time Obama was running on his lack of record, anti-incumbency and making history. He doesn't have any of those things this time.

i would say if i had to find a reason to support obama, the only thing i could think of is how entertaining a biden presidential campaign will be.

i think obama wins because the general public are corkonafork retards but i think it will be very close.

[Humble_Opinion]

We all know that Romney has the ability to take on Obama, but I'm not convinced that he would go after him with the fervor that is needed to expose just how terrible his policies have been for our country. Just look at how he handled the attacks from Newt and Co. regarding his time at Bain Capital. The same thing goes with questions regarding his tax returns.

The reason Newt had a 2nd revival and is a favorite at the moment is because everyone knows he will use his intellectual prowess to go after Obama, as he has shown in the debates. When he is asked a tough question, he is not timid by any means, unlike Mitt. This is what Conservatives want. We know our agenda is right for America and we are tired of being the "Silent Majority." Any candidate that echos these sentiments is likely going to be the nominee.

[thepostman]

If the republican party chooses Newt I have no idea who I will vote for. Not Obama, but certainly not Newt.

here is jbock's moment to say that would be a wasted vote

[From the class of 09]

We all know that Romney has the ability to take on Obama, but I'm not convinced that he would go after him with the fervor that is needed to expose just how terrible his policies have been for our country. Just look at how he handled the attacks from Newt and Co. regarding his time at Bain Capital. The same thing goes with questions regarding his tax returns.

The reason Newt had a 2nd revival and is a favorite at the moment is because everyone knows he will use his intellectual prowess to go after Obama, as he has shown in the debates. When he is asked a tough question, he is not timid by any means, unlike Mitt. This is what Conservatives want. We know our agenda is right for America and we are tired of being the "Silent Majority." Any candidate that echos these sentiments is likely going to be the nominee.

Sounds like you should support Ronny

edit: by Ronny I met Ron (Ronny) Paul not Romney who after posting I realized looked similar to Ronny.

[jbock13]

Mittens!

I agree with LUConn what said, any of these candidates could beat Obama, and yes, a vote for a third party is a wasted vote (sorry postie)

[From the class of 09]

So IMO the most interesting info from these tax releases. Not Romney making $40 mill over 2 years or his 14% tax rate, but what is up with Newt paying less than $20k in Alimony? That sounds like a chunk of change for some of us but if you're making $3.2 million you could give your exes a little more action.

[jbock13]

I have to say I don't understand this standard about releasing your taxes to the public. For one thing, is it really anybody's business what I make? And second of all, it just goes into the politics of class warfare again.

[jbock13]

By the way Haize, I now support Mitt Romney, and I am beginning the self-deportation process down to Peru, back where I came from

[Humble_Opinion]

So IMO the most interesting info from these tax releases. Not Romney making $40 mill over 2 years or his 14% tax rate, but what is up with Newt paying less than $20k in Alimony? That sounds like a chunk of change for some of us but if you're making $3.2 million you could give your exes a little more action.

That whole 14% tax rate argument is flawed. The Capital Gains Tax is as close to double taxation as the Death Tax. Any money he invested initially was subjected to the Federal Income Tax the year that he made it. He now pays an additional 15% on the interest of that initial investment.

Regarding Newt I have no clue how he gets away with only paying $20k. I'm not a lawyer, but it could be that because when the amount of alimony was set, his pay was much less than it is now. I could be wrong though.

Finally, while I like some of Paul's ideas on state's rights, taxation, and the economy as a whole; his lack of coherence on foreign policy and national defense scare me. The one department that needs all the money it can get is the Department of Defense. There should not be any cuts on that department ever. Ensuring that we have the best trained, best equipped military in the world forever costs money.

[R i]

There isnt a Republican (that is currently running) that can beat Obama. He will be there a second term.

[From the class of 09]

That whole 14% tax rate argument is flawed. The Capital Gains Tax is as close to double taxation as the Death Tax. Any money he invested initially was subjected to the Federal Income Tax the year that he made it. He now pays an additional 15% on the interest of that initial investment.

Regarding Newt I have no clue how he gets away with only paying $20k. I'm not a lawyer, but it could be that because when the amount of alimony was set, his pay was much less than it is now. I could be wrong though.

Finally, while I like some of Paul's ideas on state's rights, taxation, and the economy as a whole; his lack of coherence on foreign policy and national defense scare me. The one department that needs all the money it can get is the Department of Defense. There should not be any cuts on that department ever. Ensuring that we have the best trained, best equipped military in the world forever costs money.

I see Lib has trained you well. I totally disagree with the double tax in the sense you are describing it. I fail to see how putting your money to work and earning income is different from a factor worker at Ford working a shift. They are both producing new income to the individuals. However IMO if you have income you should be taxed at a flat rate, this would include you broke college students who think it's so great when you prepare your taxes because you get some of my money (you're welcome) and Mr. Romney who is able to pay less (as a %) then my wife and I.

If you wanted to argue double taxation you could argue that corporations have already paid the tax so stock owners shouldn't be taxed again. This would be your argument if you wanted to talk about double taxation, but you really don't want to do that and involve the fallacy of corporate taxes (see http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-10-2 ... holes.html).

Newt I agree idk how he gets away with that small a payment. But from him I don’t expect anything less.

As for the military funding, everything needs limits, everything. The military is a government entity and as such is prone to waste (sometimes massive waste). What would possibly make the military immune to this government flaw? I guess the real question is do we need to be involved in every problem around the world (because we are the biggest kid on the block) or should we focus on our own problems? Given what you said it is interesting how many active military personal support Ron Paul. I'd think they may have an inside look at the situation.

[Purple Haize]

09. Where did the money come from to invest? He paid taxes on the money he invested. And he is paying taxes on themonet THAT money is making him. The factory worker is just being taxed on his wages. Romney brought his resources (financial equity) to the table and the laborer is bringing his resources ( sweat equity) to the table. You can't tax sweat equity, you can tax financial equity. I do agree that a nice flat tax would be better. If I make $1 million I will still pay more then if I make $20k. That equals fair to me.
Considering Newt and his second wife were 'dating' while he was still married, so it wouldn't suprise me if a prenup type of arrangement came into play. Otherwise I wouldn't be suprised if she came back asking for more!

JB. Just wait till after the election!

[RubberMallet]

09. Where did the money come from to invest? He paid taxes on the money he invested. And he is paying taxes on themonet THAT money is making him. The factory worker is just being taxed on his wages. Romney brought his resources (financial equity) to the table and the laborer is bringing his resources ( sweat equity) to the table. You can't tax sweat equity, you can tax financial equity. I do agree that a nice flat tax would be better. If I make $1 million I will still pay more then if I make $20k. That equals fair to me.
Considering Newt and his second wife were 'dating' while he was still married, so it wouldn't suprise me if a prenup type of arrangement came into play. Otherwise I wouldn't be suprised if she came back asking for more!

JB. Just wait till after the election!

i really don't care about mitt's tax stuff. he's just like every other gazillionaire out there.

[jbock13]

Why do I even waste my time arguing with some of you on here? I must love you guys that much...