[BJWilliams]

I have confirmed with the administration that there is more to this story than what has been publicized and that others will better understand Jeff's and Danny's decision when all the facts come to light.

Virtual fist bump, Beej. We knew it all along.

Well what the crap are they supposed to say?
As for Langonator, he should be careful what he types. Because the way he relays the story the paper knew about the arrest before the administration. It was in fact the PAPER who informed the ADMINISTRATION about it. So I guess we now have a definition of what constitutes 'self reporting'.

Ive said all I can say and as I said, others will better understand the decision that was made when everything comes to light so speculating that anyone tipped off anyone at this point would be dangerous

[flowserve]

This is big news, see some of the attached links:
Dallas
http://topics.dallasnews.com/article/0c ... ?q=Defense
Charlotte
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2011/0 ... tated.html
Los Angeles
http://www.latimes.com/sports/sns-tsn-a ... 3266.story

[Schfourteenteen]

Dangerous would be making a questionable decision then justifying it to your stakeholders using terrible logic that goes against everything the organization stands for.

Even though they probably are justified in some ridiculous way, this has been poorly handled through and through.

[jbock13]

Beej, you will be burned at the stake (or banned) if you don't spill the beans!

[Schfourteenteen]

Beej do you still have that bush costume you used in Hancock? There are alot of offices you should listen in on tomorrow.

[BJWilliams]

I didnt have to hide in any bushes or anything...I just know how to ask the right questions to the right people

[adam42381]

It's all about winning, which is why LU is just like any other school not named BYU. Not surprising. It's cowplop, but not surprising. Morality is subjective when athletics are involved.

[BJWilliams]

Id wait and see adam...you may rethink your statement once the story becomes more clear

[Purple Haize]

BJ I never claimed anyone tipped anyone else off. I mentioned this 'off air' so I'll share it here
Here is what we know so far.
1. We were told he was a first time offender. WRONG. He has had multiple 'second chances'.
2. He violated the Liberty Way by being in possession AND association of illegal drugs. This has nothing tondo with the legal outcome of the case. It is a fact that no one disputes.
3. We were told he 'self reported' WRONG. The administration and coaching staff had no idea until they we're told about it from a 3rd party.
4. We are now operating under some New Era of Christian Commitment. What next? Kook Aid in French Ghana?

So, what new information could come to light that would negate these facts?
1. It wasn't cocaine and weed. It was actually baking soda and garnish for his FACS degree
2. Since he was not licensed to drive anything happening once he got behind the wheel is nullified b/c he shouldn't have been driving in the first place
3. SCH actually DID record the phone conversation he posted. But since it was 3 am you can understand how the coach thought it was just a terrible nightmare and tried to forget it.
4. Alex Jones and Art Bell are proven to be right and we are all in trouble!

[rogers3]

BJ I never claimed anyone tipped anyone else off. I mentioned this 'off air' so I'll share it here
Here is what we know so far.
1. We were told he was a first time offender. WRONG. He has had multiple 'second chances'.
2. He violated the Liberty Way by being in possession AND association of illegal drugs. This has nothing tondo with the legal outcome of the case. It is a fact that no one disputes.
3. We were told he 'self reported' WRONG. The administration and coaching staff had no idea until they we're told about it from a 3rd party.
4. We are now operating under some New Era of Christian Commitment. What next? Kook Aid in French Ghana?

So, what new information could come to light that would negate these facts?
1. It wasn't cocaine and weed. It was actually baking soda and garnish for his FACS degree
2. Since he was not licensed to drive anything happening once he got behind the wheel is nullified b/c he shouldn't have been driving in the first place
3. SCH actually DID record the phone conversation he posted. But since it was 3 am you can understand how the coach thought it was just a terrible nightmare and tried to forget it.
4. Alex Jones and Art Bell are proven to be right and we are all in trouble!

[Chris Lang]

Also thanks for the inside story Lang sorry if I came across as accusing towards you.

No problem. Haize, I only typed what I typed to nip a false rumor in the bud. If any of you had e-mailed me with the same sort of question, I would have responded the same way.

Also, I'm guessing Asa is going to be off limits to the media, so I wouldn't expect any comments from him.

[Schfourteenteen]

We certainly wouldn't want our program to be transparent regarding moral and ethical issues!

[slickus23]

Now if someone could just provide reasoning for why the Rams were scheduled on MNF tonight, we could all go to bed.

[Schfourteenteen]

I didnt have to hide in any bushes or anything...I just know how to ask the right questions to the right people

You didn't get any answers this time, and last time you sat in a waiting room for 6 hours without saying a word to anyone.

[Purple Haize]

Also thanks for the inside story Lang sorry if I came across as accusing towards you.

No problem. Haize, I only typed what I typed to nip a false rumor in the bud. If any of you had e-mailed me with the same sort of question, I would have responded the same way.

Also, I'm guessing Asa is going to be off limits to the media, so I wouldn't expect any comments from him.

Chris, I was just saying that for your own safety! Check your car before you start it! And if it doesn't start right away RUN!!
Also, you will now have several angry Baptists saying a prayer against you! Be on the look out for frogs locust and if you see any type of rash or boil head to the ER immediately!

[adam42381]

Hey, his Twitter account disappeared. Shocking.

[Sly Fox]

While this situation has clearly stirred up some emotions, let's try to maintain a level of decorum and class in the discussion. Everyone is free to express their opinions but let's avoid dragging this into the gutter.

[Purple Haize]

While this situation has clearly stirred up some emotions, let's try to maintain a level of decorum and class in the discussion. Everyone is free to express their opinions but let's avoid dragging this into the gutter.

Yeah, who knows what else we might find in there!

[Chris Lang]

Also thanks for the inside story Lang sorry if I came across as accusing towards you.

No problem. Haize, I only typed what I typed to nip a false rumor in the bud. If any of you had e-mailed me with the same sort of question, I would have responded the same way.

Also, I'm guessing Asa is going to be off limits to the media, so I wouldn't expect any comments from him.

Chris, I was just saying that for your own safety! Check your car before you start it! And if it doesn't start right away RUN!!
Also, you will now have several angry Baptists saying a prayer against you! Be on the look out for frogs locust and if you see any type of rash or boil head to the ER immediately!

I needed a good chuckle before turning in. Thanks!

[Schfourteenteen]

While this situation has clearly stirred up some emotions, let's try to maintain a level of decorum and class in the discussion. Everyone is free to express their opinions but let's avoid dragging this into the gutter.

@FlameFans
FlameFans
RT @libertyflames: Chapman Reinstated to Football Program bit.ly/nv46Qe // Initial response has been shock & anger from FlameFans.com

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RT @ChrisLangLNA: Per LU release, suspended NG Asa Chapman re-instated to football team. #FCS // Heated discussion @ FlameFans.com right now

Both posted before any meaningful discussion on the matter. Don't pub this as being an awesome slugfest then come in trying to calm me down! You can't give me a bag of starburst jelly beans then expect me to stay calm at a funeral, dad!

[Sly Fox]

We had had 4 pages of discussion before the release came out. That's what I was referencing with the tweets. Hyperbole? I suppose you could see it that way. Accurate? Yep.

[redhedtchr]

Asa just deleted his Facebook page. Most everything I saw written tonight was encouraging to him, praying for him, etc. Hmmmm, his choice? Or part of his support plan?

[flameshaw]

Gotta admit, you guys have supplied quite a bit of humor for me to night before I retire. Sounds like a girls club arguing over who is the prettiest. I suspect most of you will be quite embarrassed when it all comes to light. But then, some have already said that nothing any one says will make a difference to them. Speaks volumes a reeks of immaturity . IMVVHO. Good night girls.

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[Purple Haize]

The thing I can't wait to see is who they will trot out to spin this?
Will it be the Chancellor himself? It would immediately lend credibility to the company line. Or is the risk of possible blow back to great?
Will it be DR? He can put on the 'ole ball coach ' routine and intimidate or aw shucks everyone. But it will be difficult to believe that he had no prior knowledge and it will make his program look like the Christian version of The U.
What about Mark Hine? He could be LUs version of Joe Biden. The lovable goof who no one believes or has any credibility. Plus he has the added bonus of being the one fired if this all goes awry!
Keys or Goode? Neither is well known and by the time everyone was done asking " who is he and why are they speaking" they could have already read the statement and been gone.
Will the head of PR trot out to spew his own words? It lends some credibility, plus the added bonus of Keys and Goode. But will he be viewed as an outsider and have the credibility evaporate?

I will need to firenup my Whirly Pop for this one. And yes, I DO use coconut oil!

[WinterIsComing]

The thing I can't wait to see is who they will trot out to spin this?
Will it be the Chancellor himself? It would immediately lend credibility to the company line. Or is the risk of possible blow back to great?
Will it be DR? He can put on the 'ole ball coach ' routine and intimidate or aw shucks everyone. But it will be difficult to believe that he had no prior knowledge and it will make his program look like the Christian version of The U.
What about Mark Hine? He could be LUs version of Joe Biden. The lovable goof who no one believes or has any credibility. Plus he has the added bonus of being the one fired if this all goes awry!
Keys or Goode? Neither is well known and by the time everyone was done asking " who is he and why are they speaking" they could have already read the statement and been gone.
Will the head of PR trot out to spew his own words? It lends some credibility, plus the added bonus of Keys and Goode. But will he be viewed as an outsider and have the credibility evaporate?

I will need to firenup my Whirly Pop for this one. And yes, I DO use coconut oil!

Johnnie Moore