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By ALUmnus
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Why would this author go after Bachmann like that? He just paints himself as a Ron Paul supporter hyperventilating his dream scenerio.
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By jbock13
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I mean, even most objective Ron Paul supporters know he'll never have a chance at winning.

For example, if I (speaking of myself) came in 3rd iowa, and 4th in New Hampshire, its possibly then that I could win Florida. Technically, you can't disagree with that, because you have no proof that I couldn't.

But, is it likely? That's my point in all of this.
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By Covert Hawk
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Ron Paul Clobbers Rick Perry
Texas Rep. Ron Paul is well ahead of Texas governor Rick Perry, according to the latest poll.

A poll conduced by Azimuth Research Group finds Mr. Paul leading Mr. Perry in their home state of Texas.

Answering the question, “If the Texas Republican primary were held today, which presidential candidate would you be most likely to vote for?” 22 percent of those polled selected Mr. Paul. Just 17 percent of respondents voted in favor of Mr. Perry.
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By jbock13
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woo hoo. :cheerleader

I love how you consider a 5% difference "clobbers".
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By jbock13
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Covert Hawk wrote:
jbock13 wrote:woo hoo. :cheerleader

I love how you consider a 5% difference "clobbers".
Actually, that was the title of the article
Okay. My fault Covert.

Although I did vote in the poll and 75% of the website likes Ron Paul obviously. :D
By thepostman
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I doubt Ron Paul wins, but its not near the long shot it was 4 years ago. People are really starting to listen to the things he says and realizes he is not nearly as crazy as Fox News would like to paint him to be. Also the people who support him come from all walks of life and aren't nearly as crazy as Fox News and Jbock would like to believe.

Again I am not saying he wins, but at this point it wouldn't be completely shocking either.
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By Covert Hawk
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Ron Paul may not will this election cycle. But his influence will live long past 2012.
The Ron Paul Generation

Forget Pepsi; it appears that veteran Texas congressman Ron Paul is the choice of a new generation. At the New Hampshire Young Republicans Straw Poll and Lobster Bake in New Castle New Hampshire on Saturday, August 20, Paul, taking 45 percent of the total votes, soundly defeated his rivals for the Republican nomination, beating second –place finisher Governor Mitt Romney by over 35 percent of all votes cast.
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By jbock13
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In speaking of Lobster bake, has anyone seen Jon Huntsman lately? He's got the spray on tan rockin' :)
By alum82
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From the class of 09 wrote:I'm so over the republican party for all the talk of republicans and balancing the budget have you ever looked at the national debt broken down by president? Heck even Regan still ran up the national debt. Paul seems to be the only rep one crazy enough to do something about the debt other than that, if you really care about the debt issues in the US maybe you should vote democrat (although Obama seems to be bucking the trend).

definition of insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results

yes its wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_d ... tial_terms
09, it is not fair to place the blame for increasing the national debt on Republican presidents. Everyone of them had to deal with a congress that was either controlled by Democrats or by a combination of Democrats and "moderate" Republicans (aka RINOs). For example, the debt increased under Reagan because the Dems didn't keep their promise to make spending cuts. Don't throw the baby (tea party Repubs) out with the bath water. The RINOs and the Dems are to blame for all the debt, spending, taxes, etc., but there is a new breed of Republicans in town now. We just need to increase their numbers.

Also, I have noticed that many of the Republicans who were moderates or RINOs in the past have learned their lesson and have become tea party Republicans. Covert, I would put Rick Perry in that category (if all the stuff you posted about Perry's past is even true).
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alum82 wrote:
From the class of 09 wrote:I'm so over the republican party for all the talk of republicans and balancing the budget have you ever looked at the national debt broken down by president? Heck even Regan still ran up the national debt. Paul seems to be the only rep one crazy enough to do something about the debt other than that, if you really care about the debt issues in the US maybe you should vote democrat (although Obama seems to be bucking the trend).

definition of insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results

yes its wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_d ... tial_terms
09, it is not fair to place the blame for increasing the national debt on Republican presidents. Everyone of them had to deal with a congress that was either controlled by Democrats or by a combination of Democrats and "moderate" Republicans (aka RINOs). For example, the debt increased under Reagan because the Dems didn't keep their promise to make spending cuts. Don't throw the baby (tea party Repubs) out with the bath water. The RINOs and the Dems are to blame for all the debt, spending, taxes, etc., but there is a new breed of Republicans in town now. We just need to increase their numbers.

Also, I have noticed that many of the Republicans who were moderates or RINOs in the past have learned their lesson and have become tea party Republicans. Covert, I would put Rick Perry in that category (if all the stuff you posted about Perry's past is even true).
Then I guess we can't blame Obama either for this current mess cuz he had to deal with crazy congress too? I really don't care what the excuse is the blame or credit still falls on the leader.
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By jbock13
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I think time will tell. I believe our best shot is to try to takeover the Republican party, but we'd have to take over at least half of the actual party to do it. A third party will never work, so let's just throw that out (and if you're one of those third party supporters, do not bother PM'ing me and telling me that some magic fairy will come along and convince everyone to vote for a party they've never heard of).

I get a little annoyed when people blame only the Democrats for spending. While it's true that Democrats historically have spent more than Republicans, it doesn't make it right. In the minds of Democrats, it does. But we are much more intellectually thoughtful than them. We know the first way to building an argument is admitting when our side messed up. The Republicans screwed up badly during the Bush years.

Problem is, we have so called "conservative" talk show hosts who worship at the alter of Karl Rove. This man has done more to destroy conservatism than any other, with the so-called "compassionate conservatism". Conservatism is compassionate, in that we believe that all individuals of all backgrounds should have the same chance, opportunity, and do not need government help. Mr. Rove believes that we as conservatives should pander to groups, which further divides our nation.

To his credit, Rove knows conservatives well. He knows what to do when the Tea party (of which I am no fan of) calls him out for his misguided stratagies. Its always "sure, that RINO is weak, but he's not a Democrat, and look at all those gay people trying to get married!" And thus, a successful red herring has been hatched.

And don't even get me started on the foreign invasions. I was a good military hawk just like I was told to be. And then I realized the error of my ways and thinking.

I mention my conservative side here, as it doesn't bring up my libertarian side, which would begin on foreign wars.
By alum82
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No 09. You can't lump Obama, Reagan and Bush into that same category. Yes, they all three had a Congress controlled by Dems and/or RINOs but Obama AGREED with the idiots in Congress. Reagan and Bush did not but were prevented from carrying out their preferred agenda of smaller government by Congress. I know that is an over simplification but you can't place all the blame on the leader unless the leader has all the power. Our founding fathers made sure the president's power was limited because they didn't want a king. In America, you can only blame the president if the Congress was complicit in his actions. Obama is the only one that falls in that category.

I am hoping and praying that the tea party replace the RINOs once and for all in 2012. Stranger things have happened!
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By jbock13
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adam42381 wrote:Rick Perry sounds like a moron. That is all.
Care to say why?
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By adam42381
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Sly Fox wrote:My guess is he was referring to his East Texas twang. Then again, most of us have the same feeling about Bostonian accents.
I wasn't referring to his voice. The stammering and stumbling ove his words made him sound stupid. And I have an NC accent.
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By Sly Fox
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I wasn't referencing you, I was alluding to the Boston-twinged vernacular of the native Michigander.

I didn't see the debate last night. But I can tell you that Perry has a bit of a short fuse if pushed hard enough based on his tenure as Governor.
By jmdickens
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alum82 wrote:No 09. You can't lump Obama, Reagan and Bush into that same category. Yes, they all three had a Congress controlled by Dems and/or RINOs but Obama AGREED with the idiots in Congress. Reagan and Bush did not but were prevented from carrying out their preferred agenda of smaller government by Congress. I know that is an over simplification but you can't place all the blame on the leader unless the leader has all the power. Our founding fathers made sure the president's power was limited because they didn't want a king. In America, you can only blame the president if the Congress was complicit in his actions. Obama is the only one that falls in that category.

I am hoping and praying that the tea party replace the RINOs once and for all in 2012. Stranger things have happened!
Yes you can...All expanded government. If the president signs it, then he AGREES with those who pushed the bill in the first place. Andrew Jackson ignored Congress and the Supreme Court. Why couldn't Bush or Reagan?

I think Obama is in the same category as Bush (more so than with Reagan btw) because both have expanded the wars in the middle east. Both BUsh and Obama passed stimulus packages. Both Bush and Obama have undermined the 4th amendment of the United States Constitution with unlawful search and seizures. They are essentially one and the same. Dem/Rep are the same cog in the political machine.
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By jbock13
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You're response to alum is right on, jmdickens.

For the record, I'm not a fan of the Tea Party. There's a few good people, but they are largely ignorant and uneducated. All I ever hear about is how Obama should be impeached and tried for Treason. I mean really people?
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By Purple Haize
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With many smart people I have come up with my favorite republican ticket
Mitt Romney and Herman Cain
Or
Mitt Romney and Marco Rubio

I just like Romneys temperament and experience. He is conservative enough. BUT putting a Tea Party type conservative will help shore up his 'Bona fidis'. Plus Cain gives the ticket a successful black business man to stand in stark contrast to Obama and may be ciphon some of that voting block. Plus putting him up against Biden in a debate just would be priceless.
Rubio gives you a Hispanic and a Floridian, two things that are nice to have, especially Florida! He isn't quite ready for the top spot but after serving in the 2 slot for awhile he will be
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By jbock13
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I'm sick of voting for people based on their skin color. If you're white and vote for Cain based on the fact that he's a black conservative, that makes you no different than blacks who vote for Obama because of his skin color. (not saying you will Haize)

I love Marco Rubio. I wish he would have ran. But if you support him just because he'll pick up a bunch of hispanics, not only is that wrong morally, but wrong strategically.

I hear this all the time with Cain supporters. They always talk about how they will gain the black vote. Not true at all. Because they know the Democrats will continue to give them welfare programs (this is not to say blacks are all this way, but they depend on welfare more than any other racial group). Mark my words, Cain not gain anymore of the black vote than McCain did in 08.
By ALUmnus
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jbock13 wrote:For the record, I'm not a fan of the Tea Party. There's a few good people, but they are largely ignorant and uneducated. All I ever hear about is how Obama should be impeached and tried for Treason. I mean really people?
You REALLY like to generalize people, don't you? First it's Ron Paul supporters, now it's most Tea Party people. Do you live in isolation over there in the mountains?
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By jbock13
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ALUmnus wrote:
jbock13 wrote:For the record, I'm not a fan of the Tea Party. There's a few good people, but they are largely ignorant and uneducated. All I ever hear about is how Obama should be impeached and tried for Treason. I mean really people?
You REALLY like to generalize people, don't you? First it's Ron Paul supporters, now it's most Tea Party people. Do you live in isolation over there in the mountains?
Yes :D I don't just say I'm on top of the Blue Ridge for no reason ya know? :lol:
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