jmdickens wrote:I still say its Ron Paul....like Paul, Reagan lost in 1976 in the primaries, leading up to his victory in 1980. I know that is a stretch and was decades ago.Huck lost 2 years ago too, but...
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jmdickens wrote:I still say its Ron Paul....like Paul, Reagan lost in 1976 in the primaries, leading up to his victory in 1980. I know that is a stretch and was decades ago.Huck lost 2 years ago too, but...

cjsweat wrote:Bleacherreport is a very legit source.
Sly Fox wrote:I have followed Ron Paul since I first interviewed him two decades ago.
cjsweat wrote:Bleacherreport is a very legit source.
cjsweat wrote:Bleacherreport is a very legit source.
LUminary wrote:I kind of like another Paul -- Paul Ryan. Might be a good choice in the face of fiscal challenges.Yea he sure talks a good game. He recently told ABC news..
"I am the budget chairman. I am a Republican. I am a conservative. I have been pointing out the big flaws of all of the taxing and the spending that has been going on around here."But his rhetoric doesn't match his voting record...
Paul Ryan on Bailouts and Government StimuliRead the rest here
-Voted YES on TARP (2008)
-Voted YES on Economic Stimulus HR 5140 (2008)
-Voted YES on $15B bailout for GM and Chrysler. (Dec 2008)
-Voted YES on $192B additional anti-recession stimulus spending. (Jul 2009)
Paul Ryan on Entitlement Programs
-Voted YES on limited prescription drug benefit for Medicare recipients. (Nov 2003)
-Voted YES on providing $70 million for Section 8 Housing vouchers. (Jun 2006)
-Voted YES on extending unemployment benefits from 39 weeks to 59 weeks. (Oct 2008)
-Voted YES on Head Start Act (2007)
Paul Ryan on Education
Rep. Ryan went along with the Bush Administration in supporting more federal involvement in education. This is contrary to the traditional Republican position, which included support for abolition of the Department of Education and decreasing federal involvement in education.
-Voted YES on No Child Left Behind Act (2001)
Paul Ryan on Civil Liberties
-Voted YES on federalizing rules for driver licenses to hinder terrorists. (Feb 2005)
-Voted YES on making the PATRIOT Act permanent. (Dec 2005)
-Voted YES on allowing electronic surveillance without a warrant. (Sep 2006)
Paul Ryan on War and Intervention Abroad
-Voted YES on authorizing military force in Iraq. (Oct 2002)
-Voted YES on emergency $78B for war in Iraq & Afghanistan. (Apr 2003)
-Voted YES on declaring Iraq part of War on Terror with no exit date. (Jun 2006)
-Voted NO on redeploying US troops out of Iraq starting in 90 days. (May 2007)

According to the poll, taken before the announcement of Osama bin Laden's death, President Barack Obama has an edge over all the top GOP candidates in hypothetical match-ups.Read the rest here
Who does best against Obama? Paul. The congressman from Texas, who also ran as a libertarian candidate for president in 1988 and who is well liked by many in the tea party movement, trails the president by only seven points (52 to 45 percent) in a hypothetical general election showdown. Huckabee trails by eight points, with Romney down 11 points to Obama.

Covert Hawk wrote:According to a new CNN poll of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents, Ron has the best chance against Obama of all the candidates.meanwhile, he's considered a minor candidate and clintonerrrr pawlenty is a major candidate. the GOP will do anything they can to not have this guy nominated. he is a money raising mistro, he is intellectually superior to any of these other moops, and he's been dead on about he endlessness of foreign interventionalism and the frailty of our banking system.
According to the poll, taken before the announcement of Osama bin Laden's death, President Barack Obama has an edge over all the top GOP candidates in hypothetical match-ups.Read the rest here
Who does best against Obama? Paul. The congressman from Texas, who also ran as a libertarian candidate for president in 1988 and who is well liked by many in the tea party movement, trails the president by only seven points (52 to 45 percent) in a hypothetical general election showdown. Huckabee trails by eight points, with Romney down 11 points to Obama.
SuperJon wrote: I love dc Talk.
"Current and former U.S. officials say that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the mastermind of the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, provided the nom de guerre of one of bin Laden’s most trusted aides. The CIA got similar information from Mohammed’s successor, Abu Faraj al-Libi. Both were subjected to harsh interrogation tactics inside CIA prisons in Poland and Romania."Not trying to start any trouble or change the subject, just clarifying why he has his position.
jbock13 wrote:Well if they were secret, I guess they aren't now!Regardless if one thinks it is torture or not, we got the results we were looking. Better to have the enemy suffer for a little while if it means saving our citizens lives.
Bottom line, I just totally disagree that waterboarding is torture.