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By Sly Fox
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Perhaps annoyed by my frequent mentions, but we have seen a number of recent Gowalla entrants among our FlameFans family. I am an unabashed Gowalla fanboy and I've been using the app for about a year now after having it suggested by El Scorcho. Before our trip to Homecoming this past fall, I created a FlameFans.com account on the site. I did it for a number of reasons including the free advertising for the site that it offers. But I really wanted to create some nice branded trips (more on that coming up). Several of you have friended FlameFans & yours truly the past few days and I appreciate it. I highly recommend that you turn off notifications for both of my IDs if you haven't already. Otherwise you are likely to be annoyed with constant alerts of check-ins. While I primarily only check-in on my account to places I am actually going (imagine the thought), I check in EVERYWHERE on the FlameFans ID. J-Dub was in Houston this past week and it is tough to find a place down here where the FlameFans passport hasn't been stamped. FlameFans even has a presence in Papua New Guinea of all places (I couldn't get my GPS to work in Fiji or the Solomon Islands).

I have created 3 trips thus far on the FlameFans account for Gowalla. To get a pin for completing the trip you must first friend FlameFans. The easiest trip is the Liberty University Campus Tour. I have also added a Best of Lynchburg trip based on results of our annual poll. Sadly a couple of our winners do not have Gowalla spots created yet. And I have created a tougher trip to complete (unless you are a player, parents or coaching staff member) of the Big South Conference.

So I am guessing most of you are wondering the same question ... Why would I want to use Gowalla? To be honest, it is not for everybody. Unfortunately many tried Foursquare & Gowalla a year or so ago wehn it first came out and before either really had any traction and weren't impressed. Frankly I have been on Foursquare for well over a year based primarily on the assumption of many that it would take off. And while it does have a significantly more users than Gowalla, I can't for the life of me figure out why. Frankly the app bores me because there really isn't much point to it. Gowalla is a completely different story. While they both have check-ins that can lead to some discounts and such, Gowalla is really more of a way to explore and appreciate what is around us. There are 3 basic elements to the Gowalla experience in my opinion:
  • 1. Stamping the Passport - This really is the same as Foursquare to a certain degree. But there is a cool aspect to using a virtual passport to mark where you have been. I love to take note of places I have been on a personal basis and share the cools places I find. And for those worried about security, it really isn't much of an issue. You can set your privacy settings to only show those you designate as friends where you have been and where you are now. Otherwise the only traces of your existence to the general public is that you have a account and any pics you have attached to certain sites & any trips you have created. And even friends don't have access to any personal information like your real name or address unless you have give it to them. Of course I highly discourage the practice of listing your house as a location on Gowalla. I prefer to use a location of a large neighborhood with GPS coordinates given in the middle away from your home.

    2. Items - This is actually one of my favorite aspects of the game. Randomly as you check into places you will sometimes be given an item on your passport. You can only carry a total of 10 items at a time. But the fun aspect is creating a collection in your vault. Whenever you get a new item that you haven't had before, place it in your vault. Presently there are about 150 or so common items that you can find by checking into places. Of course when you check into higher trafficked places, you will notice that there are items that have been left there. If you see one that you need for your collection, you can swap one out from one you are carrying in your passport (once an item is vaulted it is permanently taken out of play and kept in your vault forever). Of course you can also drop an item to become a founder of the place. Typically a total of ten items max can be located at a particular place. But recently I have noticed that for high traffic places like airports they are now starting to allow more items to be present. In addition tot he more common items, Gowalla regularly adds limited edition items that can only be picked up at certain locations. Right now there are limited edition Tazo Tea items being dropped only at Whole Foods stores nationwide. And at Disney, Gowalla's huge new partnership with the mouse has created some special items that only can be found at one of the parks worldwide. Some items are much rarer than others. It is nearly impossible to find an Ash pair of TOMS shoes and nearly as tough to locate a Moon Rock from Gowalla's recent NASA partnership (although I scored the latter yesterday).

    3. Trips - This is perhaps the most fun aspect of the app. Everyone who joins Gowalla is able to create up to 10 total trips that only their friends can complete. Gowalla creates a number of trips that everyone has access to as well. These trips can include up to 20 locations that can be close or far apart. generally speaking they tend to be in the same town (i.e. Best of Lynchburg) or tied to some organization of a larger scale (i.e. Big South or the many American League ballparks & such). Following these trips can be a great way to explore a new city or one you already call home. Whenever I am travelling, I usually find a key place and then look there to find locals who have trips. I friend them and then when I visit it adds a dimension to the travel experience. In the Smokies it helped us find some cool locations we hadn't heard of before. These trips make visits to the zoo, a museum or theme park a great deal more fun. The aforementioned Disney-Gowalla partnership is a great example of taking the amusement park experience and adding elements of a scavenger hunt and mapping experience to it. If you have ever geocached, then you get an idea what the trip experience is like. Whenever you complete the requirements of a trip (sometimes it is to visit every location & other only require a certain percentage of passport check-ins) then you are awarded a pin. Yeah, it is just a digital icon. But when you play the app as a game it can become highly addictive.
And for the record, Gowalla has just upgraded their iPhone app from 2.0 to 3.0 version. the newest version allows you to not only check-in at Gowalla places, but also to simultaneously check-in on your Foursquare & Facebook Places accounts at the same time. You can now also upload pictures from your phone photo gallery while checked in at a spot and not just take a fresh picture off your phone like you can now in 2.0. 3.0 is scheduled to drop on Android, BlackBerry & Windows 7 phone sin the coming weeks. If you regularly use Foursquare, this might be a way to make the transition. Gowalla was built by graphic designers so the look of the app and the entire platform is much cooler than the flat, boring Foursquare.

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By rueful
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sly i started using it the other day but quickly deleted it, i dont know if it was catching me up on every check in flame fans has ever done or if you were legitimately checking in at a million places, but I couldnt take it. Couldnt figure out how to turn off the notifications of your check ins because i kept getting notifications of your check ins.
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By Sly Fox
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It is rather easy to turn on notifications. Just click on the person and right below their pic & recent check-ins is a tab where you can turn notifications on or off. It comes present to the on position. I turn off all notifications except for close family.
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By rueful
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Sly Fox wrote:It is rather easy to turn on notifications. Just click on the person and right below their pic & recent check-ins is a tab where you can turn notifications on or off. It comes present to the on position. I turn off all notifications except for close family.
well if i find a new ministry ill add it again. as it is, in my small town, the only places to check in are the ones I add, so its quite lame.
By ATrain
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I could've done the Big South confererence...even when Birmingham-Southern was a member. Oh well, too late now.
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By Sly Fox
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Rueful - It has taken over a year but it is picking up steam. And you are absolutely correct that doing it alone in a vacuum would be pointless. But as we move from the early adopter phase into one of more widespread use then it will make it more enjoyable for all.

To me, I feel about Gowalla the way I did about Twitter two years ago when there weren't many of us out there tweeting. Twitter became much more enjoyable once utilization increased and crowds learned how to shape it into their own directions.

On a side note, one of our student pastors was introduced this morning at my church as taking lead on worship in our 11am contemporary service after the first of the year. I'm not sure but that could mean an opening in our student ministries. You can use me as a reference if you apply. And I don't know if you know Ryan Terry or not, but he was on our staff for awhile before heading to Knoxville. I'll nose around and see what I find out as well.
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By Sly Fox
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I believe Ryan Terry used to work in LU athletics and his brother Justin works for alumni affairs. He is student pastor at Sevier Heights Baptist.
By SuperJon
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Oh wow. Didn't put two and two together. Yeah, Justin works at LU and he told me his brother was in Knoxville. He's more downtown than me.
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By rueful
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I would love houston, I have always enjoyed houston from my few trips there. My parents and my Mother in law (mostly my mother in law) would literally kill me, however, if I said I was even applying to a church in houston.

Ive actually am beginning the candidating process with a few churches in the north central, from Green Bay, WI to just south of Chicago, which would be ideal so that I could be within minutes of a good chunk of my family (and in a culture I actually understand, as opposed to small farm town culture, that makes Quincy seem civilized, and yes I know that only Sly will know how bad that makes where I currently am)
By BrysOn_G
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Thanks for the update on this. I started using it a week or so ago, and have enjoyed using it, even though I had no idea what I was doing. It's very similar to FourSquare. I picked up an "item" somewhere; I think it ended up in my vault.

I'd say it'll be the next big thing--for marketing, fun, etc. Thanks, Sly.
By TDDance234
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BrysOn_G wrote:Thanks for the update on this. I started using it a week or so ago, and have enjoyed using it, even though I had no idea what I was doing. It's very similar to FourSquare. I picked up an "item" somewhere; I think it ended up in my vault.

I'd say it'll be the next big thing--for marketing, fun, etc. Thanks, Sly.
A Bryson sighting. He's still alive.
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By flamesfilmguy
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Hey guys just added foursquare and Gowalla to my Droid X. I'm disappointed that I can't find my facebook friends on foursquare with the search for some reason it isn't working so i'm having to find friends manually. anyway PM me your name and i'll add you on.
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By Sly Fox
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Gowalla 3.0 will be dropping on the Android market shortly and you'll be able to check-in on both services simultaneously through Gowalla. It is already out on iPhone and my Droid is itching for its arrival as well. IN the meantime, I rarely if ever check-in on my Foursquare app.

Oh yeah, you can go into the settings on your current app and turn off all notifications or you can turn them off on certain friends. I highly recommend you turn off notifications for the FlameFans account or it will annoy you to death. I have it set up to check-in everywhere possible to spread the word about the site. My personal account is used in standard fashion. There are about 8-10 FlameFans regulars using Gowalla. We're not hard to find.
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By flamesfilmguy
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I really like Gowalla and if I will be able to check in on foursquare and gowalla simultaneously through gowalla i'll just wait till it comes out and i'll drop my foursquare app. Do you have the Droid X?
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By Sly Fox
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Nope, I am old school with the original Motorola Droid. I'll be upgrading in 2011 and based on some recent training sessions with one of our high tech clients, I am REALLY jazzed at some of the new technology we'll be seeing in the next generation of phones. The Droid X is a great phone.
By HenryGale
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I got a Droid Pro about a month ago and love it so far!
By HenryGale
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Sly...I have had it for roughly a month. I made the switch from a BB Tour to the Droid Pro. I was most interested in having a profile phone as opposed to the landscape versions. It is layed out very similar to the Tour, and the keyboard is very similar.

I love the Android OS much better than my Tour, and to have access to the Apps is a definite plus. I also like having the touch screen/keyboard option. It makes using the phone much quicker as compared to the Tour.

The battery life is terrible compared to my Tour. I could use it all day and still have 40% left at the end of the day. With similar use, I can be at 40% by early afternoon. I did recently get the extended battery and I can get through the day without having to charge my phone, so I believe the extended battery is an absolute must.

One thing I really do not like is the vibrate function on the Droid. It was fairly strong and customizable on the Tour. On the Pro, it is 2 quick, soft vibrates and that is all you get. Makes it impossible to know when you get emails and text messages if you have them set to vibrate. I was able to download an app to customize my SMS vibrate function, but still nothing for email or other notifications. As someone who has their phone on vibrate all the time, this is something I really do not like.

Camera is better on the Pro and I like having the WiFi option that I did not have on my Tour.

Speaker phone is a little weak as well.
I have not put any music on it yet, so can not speak to how well it does with that.

If you have any more questions, just let me know.
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By Sly Fox
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Thanks for the review!

Battery life & vibration have easily been the two most frustrating aspects of my Droid experience as well. That said, a move back to RIM is inconceivable for me. The Android platform is improving daily and has overcome iOS IMHO over the past few months. It is great seeing developers start to make Android their 1st platform instead of being so iPhone-minded like in the past.

If I were buying today, I really would want to go back to a global phone. It killed me to go 2 weeks in the South Pacific with only WiFi connectivity. And I really don't see me giving up a real keyboard anytime soon. But I am thrilled to have rid myself of the lousy BlackBerry controllers (trackball or joystick).

And oh yeah, don't forget to send FlameFans a friend request on Gowalla then immediately turn off FlameFans notifications.

I am still waiting for one of you in Lynchburg to start knocking out the FlameFans trips. Trips are one of the coolest ways to to enjoy the app. I am close to having a couple more Big South-themed trips up & running. I just need someone to create a few spots at a couple of the campuses.
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By flamesfilmguy
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I need to figure out how to make trips. I'll be making one for the football season next year and I want to be able to hit up all the campuses. I'll create some new places at Coastal carolina when we play them next year but I need to learn how to make a trip.
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By Sly Fox
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You have to do it from their web client and not their phone apps. And now that you mention it, since they redesigned their home page I am not seeing a way to create trips at the moment. Hmmmmm ... let me do some digging.

In the meantime, it'd be great to have one of the guys on our board be the first to complete the Campus Tour trip. It could be knocked out fairly quickly.
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By Sly Fox
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Just added another trip on the FlameFans Gowalla account ...

http://gowalla.com/trips/30162

If you haven't started pursuing trips yet, prepare for a whole new enjoyment level from your travelling. This trip lists the Division I football stadiums in Virginia.
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By JDUB
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it seems to me that gowalla is more suited to people traveling alot, where 4sq is geared towards people in their home towns. I say this because gowalla emphasizes trips and finding new places but 4sq emphasizes going to the same places over and over (mayor) and such
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