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By col. nathan jessup
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Same as my post on the football thread. If you want an at-large bid man up and play a big boy schedule. Pastor's made it to the NCAA's twice in five years. While he did it by winning the conference if you look at his schedules you will see that they were much tougher. I also think that 2 or three of Royer's years were tougher schedules than what we've seen the last 4 years. Not complaining, I do believe our teams are improving but if you want to talk at large bids you've got to play much tougher opponents. And sorry to say but you will have to play them on the road. The system is rigged but that is the challenge we are facing.
By sporter
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While competing in the NCAA tournament should clearly be a goal for any collegiate program, one thing that everyone should realize (both in baseball and football) is that scheduling quality opponents helps both with community and student interest as well as recruiting. Not to minimize the playoff quest, but I believe that like all things in life it comes down to striking the right balance (as participating in the playoffs helps as well) but consistently playing quality programs with bigger names holds value other than just in our quest for an at large berth.
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By Cider Jim
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Much has been written about LU's expanding campus in the next few years. Have I missed something, or was nothing at all said about expanding our baseball facility?
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By LUnpretty11
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Cider Jim wrote:Much has been written about LU's expanding campus in the next few years. Have I missed something, or was nothing at all said about expanding our baseball facility?

JJ mentioned that something in an interview at the Sav St. football game about how something needs to be done before the football expansion is finished to make sure all facilities are being kept up. So hopefully something in the next 2 years, but nothing is in writing as of this moment. Unless something has changed within the last couple weeks/months...
By The Natural
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col. nathan jessup wrote:Same as my post on the football thread. If you want an at-large bid man up and play a big boy schedule. Pastor's made it to the NCAA's twice in five years. While he did it by winning the conference if you look at his schedules you will see that they were much tougher. I also think that 2 or three of Royer's years were tougher schedules than what we've seen the last 4 years. Not complaining, I do believe our teams are improving but if you want to talk at large bids you've got to play much tougher opponents. And sorry to say but you will have to play them on the road. The system is rigged but that is the challenge we are facing.

The schedule stinks...as William Wallace once said....fight and you may die...run and you will for live for a little while...but years from now lieing in your bed will you regret the chance you could have had to play real SEC teams and not these weak sisters and wannabe teams. Toman's not fooling anyone with this " how many wins can I get " schedule...just himself. He is fattening up on easy pickens. That schedule needs Jenny Craig not an "at large" burger !!
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By BJWilliams
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Well we are two weeks out from the start of the season...here's hoping the guys can get off to a fast start...now as I said, is it a perfect schedule...no...but maybe for next year Coach Toman can come on here and make sure that the schedule gets the "FlameFans seal of approval" before finalizing it or something...
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By ToTheLeft
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BJWilliams wrote:Well we are two weeks out from the start of the season...here's hoping the guys can get off to a fast start...now as I said, is it a perfect schedule...no...but maybe for next year Coach Toman can come on here and make sure that the schedule gets the "FlameFans seal of approval" before finalizing it or something...
Beej, you've really started to go off the deep end lately bud.

There is room for more than just absolute acceptance and support for LU athletics. Criticism and questioning of decision making is a part of being a fan, relax a bit.
By From the class of 09
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ToTheLeft wrote:
BJWilliams wrote:Well we are two weeks out from the start of the season...here's hoping the guys can get off to a fast start...now as I said, is it a perfect schedule...no...but maybe for next year Coach Toman can come on here and make sure that the schedule gets the "FlameFans seal of approval" before finalizing it or something...
Beej, you've really started to go off the deep end lately bud.

There is room for more than just absolute acceptance and support for LU athletics. Criticism and questioning of decision making is a part of being a fan, relax a bit.
What are you talking about TTL I thought it was a great idea to have Toman ask us what he thinks of a schedule before he sets it :lol:
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By BJWilliams
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TTL, here is my feeling...if you dont like something, you can question and disagree which is fine...but if you have a problem with something instead of just moaning and complaining, you can take the same energy that you put into that and maybe offer up some constructive suggestions that could make things a whole lot better...if you dont like the kind of teams that we are playing, why not drop coach Toman and email, let him know wo you are and that youre a longtime supporter of LU baseball and express your feelings about the schedule and maybe tell him what you would like to see if youre going to be someone who is giving money back to the school as the Lord blesses you to do so. Find out a bit about Coach's philosophy and how schedule making fits into that and youll gain a lot more insight than just throwing them completely under the bus on a message board.
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By ToTheLeft
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BJWilliams wrote:TTL, here is my feeling...if you dont like something, you can question and disagree which is fine...but if you have a problem with something instead of just moaning and complaining, you can take the same energy that you put into that and maybe offer up some constructive suggestions that could make things a whole lot better...if you dont like the kind of teams that we are playing, why not drop coach Toman and email, let him know wo you are and that youre a longtime supporter of LU baseball and express your feelings about the schedule and maybe tell him what you would like to see if youre going to be someone who is giving money back to the school as the Lord blesses you to do so. Find out a bit about Coach's philosophy and how schedule making fits into that and youll gain a lot more insight than just throwing them completely under the bus on a message board.
I would not expect a reply from Coach Toman, or any coach, were I to e-mail them and ask such a thing. This is a discussion board to put things out there as fans, and see who agrees or disagrees. It's not a launching pad for "letters to the editor" asking why a coach does a certain thing. Storm does things his way. Some of us think the schedule is weak, and we're allowed to believe that. If Storm wins us the Big South, or gets us to the tourney, then who cares what he scheduled. Would just appease us as fans (who are not coaches, and don't claim to be) to see a couple tougher names to test the guys and to build RPI.

Plus, there's enough people in athletics who read these things. If it's said here, someone in athletics has a chance of reading it. If it's important enough, they might point it out to whoever it pertains to. But I would say scheduling is probably the most consistently discussed topic in the offseason for any college program in any team sport. It's typical for some to like it, and some to not like it. Not a big deal. If it becomes a consistent issue, then it's time to take action as a fan. But it's not like Storm is scheduling the school of the blind followed by the school of the deaf. He's doing a fine job so far, and has earned the right to schedule how he pleases.
By SuperJon
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BJWilliams wrote:TTL, here is my feeling...if you dont like something, you can question and disagree which is fine...but if you have a problem with something instead of just moaning and complaining, you can take the same energy that you put into that and maybe offer up some constructive suggestions that could make things a whole lot better...if you dont like the kind of teams that we are playing, why not drop coach Toman and email, let him know wo you are and that youre a longtime supporter of LU baseball and express your feelings about the schedule and maybe tell him what you would like to see if youre going to be someone who is giving money back to the school as the Lord blesses you to do so. Find out a bit about Coach's philosophy and how schedule making fits into that and youll gain a lot more insight than just throwing them completely under the bus on a message board.
BJ, this is just stupid. We don't need fans who have problems e-mailing our coaches and taking their time. That's what message boards are for. Let them complain here all they want so that our coaches can focus on coaching and not worry about reading e-mails from people who don't like something. This isn't high school. It's Division I athletics.
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