[Stevev]

SC State has been in there in the past and have been competitive so maybe they got in there on past accomplishments. Not sure if they were that substantial this year. The Big South gets no respect I guess.

[jcmanson]

Stop with the pessimism. There are teams out there that belong in ahead of us. SCSU is not one of them.

I'm okay with not making it, but not to them. That's a joke. This year, we have truly been robbed.

I guess, but the big south wasn't about to get 2 bids this year regardless of what the rankings say...you have to look at this history of how the committee has gone more then what certain rankings say..

we take care of our business on the field we don't have to worry about the committee, it was as simple as that this year

I agree. We can't complain about the committee. It's our own fault.

[ALAFlamesFan]

That's why you can't leave it up to the committee.

Exactly. Win the games you are supposed to win. When you are trying to make a name for yourself you have to do it the hard way. No one is going to give it to you. You have to take it. We didn't have that attitude at times this year and now we get to try and find it before next season.

[ToTheLeft]

Yes yes, blah blah, we should have won. I was as mad if not madder than all of you guys that we lost.

BUT SCSU DID NOT BELONG IN AHEAD OF US. PERIOD. THERE IS NO. NONE. EXCUSE.

This is a robbery. This is so much worse than 2 years ago, when WM belonged in ahead of us, and probably Maine, too. SCSU does NOT belong in ahead of us. Absolutely not.

I get it guys, I do. We should have won. But we were robbed this year. We did enough to be better than SCSU, and didn't get any credit.

[kuntryboimike]

CUSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Gosh DANGIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[thepostman]

.are we better then SCSU? probably...but not by much. This is not that much of a robbery...in the fact you just said Maine deserved to be in the playoffs a couple years ago completely makes this conversation completely dumb...William and Mary deserved to make it over us..there is NO WAY Maine deserved to be in there over us...

[ToTheLeft]

.are we better then SCSU? probably...but not by much. This is not that much of a robbery...in the fact you just said Maine deserved to be in the playoffs a couple years ago completely makes this conversation completely dumb...William and Mary deserved to make it over us..there is NO WAY Maine deserved to be in there over us...

We lost to Presby. Presbyterian College.

Just stop dude.

[thepostman]

but Maine was still not better then us...William and Mary deserved to make it that year...not Maine..

That was so much worse then this its not even funny...especially for William and Mary

[ToTheLeft]

I've been following this stuff in depth all season. Don't cheapen all the work I put into this crap with your belittling attitude.

LU belongs in over SCSU. This is a robbery.

[ToTheLeft]

but Maine was still not better then us...William and Mary deserved to make it that year...not Maine..

That was so much worse then this its not even funny...especially for William and Mary

Wow dude. Ignorance must be bliss.

WE. LOST. TO. PRESBY. And Laffy. We didn't belong in. Period. Not over CAA teams who won in a much tougher league.

Yes, WM belonged in ahead of us or Maine, but Maine should have been ahead of us.

[rueful]

I've been following this stuff in depth all season. Don't cheapen all the work I put into this crap with your belittling attitude.

LU belongs in over SCSU. This is a robbery.

postie, he mentioned william and mary and how they should have gotten in first, and his point with it was that that wasnt a robbery. This year was.

Yes, we should have beat coastal. Were all ticked off about it. But the fact of the matter is that of the eligible teams left fighting for that last spot, we had the best resume in the largest scope of things, and we should have gotten in. This is the first year that we can legitimately gripe that the Committe screwed us over.

[thepostman]

my belittling attitude?? well isn't that an interesting turn of events...

Maine making it over William and Mary was so much worse then this, its silly to even think that this is THAT bad...

were we better? probably...but this is what happens when you leave it in their hands. Committees have proven that they are far from perfect...

I am not sure how what I am saying is belittling anyways. Simply because I don't think its highway robbery??Because I disagree??

[thepostman]

I've been following this stuff in depth all season. Don't cheapen all the work I put into this crap with your belittling attitude.

LU belongs in over SCSU. This is a robbery.

postie, he mentioned william and mary and how they should have gotten in first, and his point with it was that that wasnt a robbery. This year was.

Yes, we should have beat coastal. Were all ticked off about it. But the fact of the matter is that of the eligible teams left fighting for that last spot, we had the best resume in the largest scope of things, and we should have gotten in. This is the first year that we can legitimately gripe that the Committe screwed us over.

A gripe yes? but completely and utterly robbed? no

Sure I don't have the time to follow all of FCS all season long, but its clear to see that SCSU and Liberty were not THAT far apart. It is a toss up and their history won over ours. Plain and simple..

[ToTheLeft]

my belittling attitude?? well isn't that an interesting turn of events...

Maine making it over William and Mary was so much worse then this, its silly to even think that this is THAT bad...

were we better? probably...but this is what happens when you leave it in their hands. Committees have proven that they are far from perfect...

I am not sure how what I am saying is belittling anyways. Simply because I don't think its highway robbery??Because I disagree??

Because you said the conversation was dumb because I made a valid point you disagreed with.

I'm just really ticked off dude, and you presenting NO FACTS and just telling me I'm wrong makes it worse.

All I've done all week is present facts. Then you saying "we don't deserve it blah blah blah" and then going on and on about how a team that lost to Presby should have made it.... it's impossible to have a discussion here. Yes, now I am "belittling" because I'm sick of it. Ignorant opinions should be called ignorant. Yours is.

History shouldn't win. They did nothing this year. Nothing. This is a joke.

[LUnpretty11]

Post, you're wrong. SCSU beat nobody from a nobody conference. We beat somebody from a better nobody conference. Our SOS was better, and we performed better. Say what you want about how we should have "Taken care of Business" with Coastal. SCSU is in because of past playoff experience, NOT because of having a good team this year. This is pathetic. To say two years ago was worse than this year IS even more pathetic. A CAA with minimal CAA wins is MUCH better than a MEAC with lots of MEAC wins. I'm more ticked off about this "decision" or lack there of, than our loss to CCU.

[ToTheLeft]

Post, you're wrong. SCSU beat nobody from a nobody conference. We beat somebody from a better nobody conference. Our SOS was better, and we performed better. Say what you want about how we should have "Taken care of Business" with Coastal. SCSU is in because of past playoff experience, NOT because of having a good team this year. This is pathetic. To say two years ago was worse than this year IS even more pathetic. A CAA with minimal CAA wins is MUCH better than a MEAC with lots of MEAC wins. I'm more ticked off about this "decision" or lack there of, than our loss to CCU.

Amen.

[LUnpretty11]

History shouldn't win. They did nothing this year. Nothing. This is a joke.

+ 1 million.

[ToTheLeft]

I'd have been okay with:

Dayton - They beat RMU, had 9 DI wins
Jacksonville - Beat ODU, played App St. well for 3 Quarters, 9 DI wins
JMU - Beat us, beat Tech
Montana - Legitimate money grab, wouldn't have surprised me
UMass/Richmond- CAA >>>>>>> Big South, UMass beat the 2 seed

But SCSU is not a team I'm okay with getting in ahead of us.

[LUnpretty11]

I'd have been okay with:

Dayton - They beat RMU, had 9 DI wins
Jacksonville - Beat ODU, played App St. well for 3 Quarters, 9 DI wins
JMU - Beat us, beat Tech
Montana - Legitimate money grab, wouldn't have surprised me
UMass/Richmond- CAA >>>>>>> Big South, UMass beat the 2 seed

But SCSU is not a team I'm okay with getting in ahead of us.

Thought the exact same thing with Montana. I'm actually a little shocked they aren't in. If the committee is going to go with history as a criteria, take Montana. Not the freaking MEAC.

[jcmanson]

different year, same story 4 years running...

[LUnpretty11]

different year, same story 4 years running...

This has a little worse of a lemon juice to the eye type of feel to it though. Didn't deserve it last year. Didn't deserve it the year before that. This year... Did we deserve it? Maybe not. Over SCSU? Abso-freaking-lutely.

[From the class of 09]

History shouldn't win. They did nothing this year. Nothing. This is a joke.

+ 1 million.

+2....I really thought with the expanded playoffs there would be a spot this year...this is totally new system with the same result...o well next year is looking bright and the bball team looks like they could be dangerous in the BS.

[NG33]

Well.. there's always next year... Unfinished Business version 4.0

[jenkins]

SCSU proves the case in point the the selection committee is has sound rhyme or reason that they can back their choices with. It's a land of folly that they toss teams to and fro based on their own power struggle. Postman, you really need to go look at the MEAC and SCST in particular because what your saying is absolutely ridiculous.
-For instance SAV state, NC A&T, NC Central, Norfolk State, Delaware State....let's compare this to the big south, that's the underbelly of the big south i.e VMI, Presby, CSU, GWU....Clearly the BIG south's underbelly is vastly superior. SC State was tested twice this year and failed both times. We were tested 5 times and went 2 and 3 (all 3 losses on the road). Plus I dont know that you can really say Bethune Cookman is all that great anyway.

Also, this year I completely disagree with the notion that we didn't do enough and it's just a SCSU team that shouldn't have been in. As we have been saying for the past 3 or 4 weeks, there were just not that many distinguising resumes this year. Outside of the top 7 to 8 teams noyone had a lot of quality wins. Now, if you want to give the CAA a bit of bump up for playing mostly tough teams then that is legit. However, most of the other conferences are the same. I thought Rocco made a great point when he said if your going to ovverride the polls then why even have the stupid poll if your going to leapfrog teams ahead of teams that are higher in the polls. This is ridiculous this year. A LOT of teams in the tourney this year had as many or more BAD losses than we did.

Finally, this is another great reason to push towards FBS so that you don't deal with these frauds running the committee.

[vtechhokies20]

http://www.realtimerpi.com/football/ncaaf_Men.html

South Carolina St is rated ahead of us and has a stronger Strength of Schedule.

With more than double the budget of our conference opponents 14 million a year, we should be able to win the Big South conference outright.

We probably have the top budget in all of the FCS.