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By LUconn
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They used to shoot them off from the bald spot before snow flex on the 4th
By EagleOne
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I'm assuming the 10pm deadline was in place at the time the game was scheduled for 7pm. If so, then why were the fireworks scheduled knowing this? I think most people know a game lasts appox. 3 hours. Kind of seems like poor planning to me.
By From the class of 09
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EagleOne wrote:I'm assuming the 10pm deadline was in place at the time the game was scheduled for 7pm. If so, then why were the fireworks scheduled knowing this? I think most people know a game lasts appox. 3 hours. Kind of seems like poor planning to me.
Plenty of blame to go around
By olldflame
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What I don't understand is why they started at almost a quarter til when the regulation just says they can't start after 10. If they had waited til about 10:58 or so, the game would have been pretty much over. I agree that we need to stop going out of our way to take jabs at the city, and it looks like that was what this was.
By LUconn
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I don't see how this is city incompetence. It's a rule
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By PAmedic
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Rooster Cogburn wrote:I hear medic was at the game, let's blame it on him.
believe it or not,that was one particular facet of the game over which I had no control

likely because my trip was a last minute deal- I'm like the president: my movements are kept very close to the vest
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By Rooster Cogburn
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LUconn wrote:I don't see how this is city incompetence. It's a rule
Incompetence? NO! Inconsistency? YES! If the Hillcats get a break, then we should get on too.
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By jcmanson
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If it was a known rule, which it appears to be the case, there's a couple options for us:

1. Start the game 6 leaving plenty of time for fireworks after the game
2. Do fireworks at halftime
3. Don't do fireworks

What we did is what some rebellious teenager would do to spite their parents. The parents always win in that case.
By LUconn
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BuryYourDuke wrote:
LUconn wrote:I don't see how this is city incompetence. It's a rule
The rule is absurd. It is passed by the city=incompetence. It would be well within the Fire Marshal's power to allow the fireworks to start at 10:05 or whatever...incompetence. Showing a rigid adherence to an inconsequential rule in the face of common sense is bad government. It should have been pointed out, and it was.

How is it an absurd rule? Noise ordinances are a commonplace everywhere in America. I'm sure Lynchburg had a few already on the books before they brought up fireworks. The Hillcats were setting off explosions in the sky right next to residential neighborhoods late at night while people are trying to sleep. Seems like a fairly practical rule to me.
By From the class of 09
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Rooster Cogburn wrote:
LUconn wrote:I don't see how this is city incompetence. It's a rule
Incompetence? NO! Inconsistency? YES! If the Hillcats get a break, then we should get on too.
They Don't (according to HMO) What say you now?
By LUconn
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Does the fire marshal have the power to make such an exception? Actually, I wouldn't think the fire marshal had anything to do with noise violations, except that Jr. called him out.
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By Rooster Cogburn
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From the class of 09 wrote:
Rooster Cogburn wrote:
LUconn wrote:I don't see how this is city incompetence. It's a rule
Incompetence? NO! Inconsistency? YES! If the Hillcats get a break, then we should get on too.
They Don't (according to HMO) What say you now?

I have been there watching fireworks several times after 10
By From the class of 09
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Rooster Cogburn wrote:
From the class of 09 wrote:
Rooster Cogburn wrote:
Incompetence? NO! Inconsistency? YES! If the Hillcats get a break, then we should get on too.
They Don't (according to HMO) What say you now?

I have been there watching fireworks several times after 10
Did they start at 10? If they did start after 10 I'm with you that we should get an exemption also.
By olldflame
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BuryYourDuke wrote:Right. The Hill Cats are in a legitimately residential neighborhood. The idea of having a limitation isn't absurd. The idea that you can start a 45 minute fireworks show at 9:59 pm and not 10:05 pm on a Saturday night on a college campus is absurd.
That's a specious argument. Any regulation has to have parameters. In this case it is 10PM, therefore before 10 is OK and after 10 is not. I would have less of a problem if we HAD started at 9:59. Instead, we unnecessarily started at about 9:45, with over half the 4th quarter to play. If I were the Savannah State coach, I would probably have pulled my team off the field until they were over.

While I won't argue that the area around City Stadium is more densley populated, there are plenty of people living around the LU campus, as well as a number of hotels, and even a nursing home. The bottom line is, we did not handle this well at all.
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By Rooster Cogburn
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At this point, it really doesn't matter. The game was not in question when they started the fireworks. The refs didn't care. The other team didn't care. It was an interesting sensory experience that was once in a lifetime.

we're only talking about this because of what the Chancelor said. He is the only one who has the position to make that decision, and he made it. It doesn't effect the grand scheme relationship with the city at all.
By Chris Lang
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The Hillcats have gotten a break on this ONE time. And it was a special situation. It was a Saturday night on a holiday weekend, and because of a rainout the night before, they had to play a doubleheader (starting at 6 p.m.), and the second game went 14 innings. Hillcats GM Paul Sunwall was on the phone with the fire marshall all night determining what could be done, and they ended up shooting off the fireworks in between innings, a few at a time.
By olldflame
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As far as the opponent "not having a problem with it" is concerned, I seriously doubt that. Put yourself in their situation and tell me you wouldn't be seriously ticked off. My guess is they didn't do/say anything because it in fact would only have prolonged their agony and delayed their trip home, so they just took the path of least resistance. Wanna bet there weren't some choice words directed toward us about it on the ride home?
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By LUnpretty11
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Chris Lang wrote:I spoke to SSU's coach after the game. He was indeed unhappy.
Rightfully so. I mean, just imagine how much more ticked off Rocco would have been had JMU shot off their "show" during the entire 4th QTR.
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By BJWilliams
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I was talking about this with some of the band members as it was happening (well the ones that weren't staring at the fireworks) and my thought was that the SSU coach (as Lang has confirmed) was not happy with it. I also quipped that someone would either get a dock in pay or be seeking new employ for setting the fireworks off before the game was over...course that was before Jerry Jr's announcement
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