[TDDance234]

UNC knew what it was doing when it brought in Butch Davis. They knew the baggage he brings in but they apparently deemed it worthwhile to raise the profile of the program. In retrospect, I have a feeling they may now have a different opinion since Butch hasn't exactly turned the Heels into a powerhouse. Everybody has hammered me before on here for saying it but it is similar to UK with Cal. Is it worth it. Obviously UK is nowhere near the academic institution of UNC and Wildcat fans could care less if anyone is cheating as long as the Big Blue are winning. Is Carolina cool with becoming the new Kentucky?

I'm no UNC fan by any means but you can't compare the two. Butch won awards at Miami for graduating players -- Calipari is a whole different situation.

[4everfsu]

Maybe Butch had a 'special' tutor at UM

[blwall1416]

Everybody has hammered me before on here for saying it but it is similar to UK with Cal... Is Carolina cool with becoming the new Kentucky?

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but the problems with academics at UM happened prior to Butch being made the HC. I thought they brought him in to clean up the program. Pretty sure he suspended 5 key players for the '96 season because of something they did the previous year (not academics). Butch hasn't had any wins vacated from UM or UNC (yet). Cal, on the other hand, has lost both of his F4's.

[4everfsu]

I am reading the Charlotte paper today and found out the tutor was not only employed by Butch Davis, but also was employed by the school. First time I heard that. Also the school AD will not comment whether the academic scandal involves any other school athletes besides football players.

[blwall1416]

I am reading the Charlotte paper today and found out the tutor was not only employed by Butch Davis, but also was employed by the school. First time I heard that.

Did you not read the very first post I made in this thread? You know, the one where I said she was employed by university PRIOR to Coach Davis being hired.

[4everfsu]

Nope I don't remember reading what you wrote earlier. As I said first time I saw it in a publication she was employed by UNC. Everything else I read talked about her being a tutor for BD's son.

[JDUB]

Either way UNC reputation of an academic instituion above others is damaged for good.

If I am not mistaken Duke lost their starting QBs a couple of years ago, dismissed from the school for plagarism.

It was a 1 yr suspension. Didn't hurt the team much, they still lost 10 games to continue the pattern lol

[JDUB]

I just hope that if they find anything on BBall, they don't take away games. I want 82-50 to be officially on the books

[givemethemic]

And here it is...

Chapel Hill – The University of North Carolina has declared six student-athletes on the football team ineligible for Saturday’s season-opening game for violating school and/or NCAA rules. The University is also withholding at least six other student-athletes from Saturday’s game while the investigation continues.

The six ineligible student-athletes include: defensive tackle Marvin Austin, cornerback Charles Brown, cornerback Kendric Burney, wide receiver Greg Little, defensive end Michael McAdoo and defensive end Robert Quinn.

Six other student-athletes who will be withheld from Saturday’s game include: tailback Shaun Draughn, defensive end Linwan Euwell, safety Brian Gupton, tailback Ryan Houston, safety Da’Norris Searcy and safety Jonathan Smith.

The number of games that those 12 student-athletes may miss has not been determined at this time. The investigation continues to include both agent-related and academic issues.

The University also continues to work today with the NCAA to determine the eligibility status of three other student-athletes. Those three will not accompany the team to Atlanta on Friday morning. Further information will be announced when a decision on their status for the game is reached.

“We’re obviously very disappointed to learn that the actions of a number of our student-athletes have resulted in their being unable to compete in Saturday’s game,” says Director of Athletics Dick Baddour. “It is important to note again that people should not make assumptions as to the nature of each student-athlete’s involvement with these issues.

“We are still working with the NCAA staff to resolve these eligibility issues. The NCAA is focusing on each of their situations on a case-by-case basis. Together we are working to determine their status in as thorough and fair a process as is possible.

“I know our fans share my disappointment, but I hope they will show their strong support for the student-athletes on the football team who will represent our University on Saturday. I am proud of the way they have worked so hard to prepare for this season despite numerous distractions. They have my full support.”

“Moving forward, Dick Baddour, Butch Davis and I are determined to use this as an opportunity to look hard at our programs, resources and people to ensure that everyone associated with the football program upholds the values that are central to Carolina’s culture, most especially our academic values,” says Chancellor Holden Thorp.

“As I’ve have said, there is no single game more important than the character and integrity of this University,” says head football coach Butch Davis. “We are disappointed the players’ choices have denied them the opportunity to compete alongside their teammates and represent the University of North Carolina. Our coaches and players have a tremendous challenge this weekend, and despite these circumstances, our team will be excited to face LSU.”

[JDUB]

Sounds like they are saying all the right things to the press at least. I don't think they could've worded their statements any better

[4everfsu]

Sounds like they maybe missing 3 more players for the game.

http://tarheelblue.cstv.com/sports/m-fo ... 10aaa.html

[rueful]

come on, no one else watch the hitler thing? i thought it was great "i was going to paint my face. I already bought all the paint...all the paint, for all of us for the whole season...it would have been awesome"

[blwall1416]

Sounds like they are saying "we put academics ahead of a very important football game/season." Which will help keep their reputation intact.

[rueful]

i could care less about the whole UNC-DUKE, just all of that mess over on the east coast, but come on, thats the biggest gulp of kool-aid ive ever seen. They are being accused of cheating on academics for the purposes of being eligible for football. How is that putting academics above an important football game/season?

and if your being sarcastic and i didnt pick up on it, I guess im the goose

[blwall1416]

How is that putting academics above an important football game/season?

"We (the university) put academics ahead...." Coach Davis suspended players at UM....he's suspending players at UNC. He, the AD, the chancellor, & the faculty are saying we will not put up with that.

[JK37]

come on, no one else watch the hitler thing? i thought it was great "i was going to paint my face. I already bought all the paint...all the paint, for all of us for the whole season...it would have been awesome"

it was HILARIOUS! Thank you for sharing...

[rueful]

come on, no one else watch the hitler thing? i thought it was great "i was going to paint my face. I already bought all the paint...all the paint, for all of us for the whole season...it would have been awesome"

it was HILARIOUS! Thank you for sharing...

i didnt share it

[thepostman]

come on, no one else watch the hitler thing? i thought it was great "i was going to paint my face. I already bought all the paint...all the paint, for all of us for the whole season...it would have been awesome"

it was ok, but its been done to death with so many different things that it has kind of lost its appeal to me

[jmdickens]

more on the way