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By Schfourteenteen
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I'm surprised OKST broke this news first. Of the Big 4(OU, OKST, UT, TAMU) they IMO have the least amount of pull. What if they make the move and Texas stays? Oklahoma sure won't leave and neither will TAMU.

If OKST is gone, then either the other 3 are too or OKST is about to get screwed big time.
By Bigsouthking
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Mizzu staying in Big 12 means to me that the Big 10 didn't invite them. Big 10 should take WVU from Big East another good football program and real solid hoops. Also they would get the whole state TV market like Nebraska.

Just heard Bill Self talk and he is ticked about them being left out possibly.

KU should linked up with Memphis and get Baylor and just be a power hoops league. Forget these mediore football programs, they drain most the athletic budgets anyway that are not producing major bowl appearances. Just like some Big South schools that have no business with scholarship football teams. Pioneer League is what some should model.
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By SumItUp
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Bigsouthking wrote:Just heard Bill Self talk and he is ticked about them being left out possibly.
There were quite a few people that were ticked when he left ORU for Tulsa.
There were quite a few people that were ticked when he left Tulsa for Illinois.
There were quite a few people that were ticked when he left Illinois for Kansas.

Bill is only looking out for one person, himSELF.
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By jcmanson
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http://www.kctv5.com/sports/23860558/detail.html
High level sources in multiple conferences have told KCTV5 that Texas and Texas A&M are looking to move to the Big Ten Conference and have petitioned for membership, while the University of Oklahoma is planning on petitioning the Southeastern Conference to become a member of its conference.
By JK37
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This one points in some slightly different directions, albeit for the same Big XII teams that everyone's talking about...
When Nebraska leaves the Big 12 Conference this week, so too will Texas Tech, Texas and Texas A&M, a high-ranking university official told the Lubbock Avalanche-Journal.

The official told the paper that those three Texas universities have vowed to stick together through any major conference upheaval, which -- according to multiple reports from reputable newspapers across the country -- Nebraska will trigger this week.

The University of Texas, along with Tech and A&M, would likely join the Pacific-10 Conference, according to the source.
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent ... 58f2b.html
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By Sly Fox
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The KC story about UT and A&M being interested in the Big Ten is bogus according to all my contacts in Austin. And the same goes for the TMZ report on OSU.
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By SumItUp
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Sly Fox wrote:The KC story about UT and A&M being interested in the Big Ten is bogus according to all my contacts in Austin. And the same goes for the TMZ report on OSU.
so what are your sources telling you?
By LUconn
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The once mighty Lew Perkins. He had the foresight to get Uconn into the IA ranks and really did it flawlessly. We could definitely use his advice if he were interested in some kind of consulting role.
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By badger74
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While I like the idea of the B10 getting UT and TAMU I think it's just a rumor without much merit, unfortunately. The B10 has said it wants a southern outlet but that could range from U Maryland to UT. I think the B 10 will take a couple eastern teams with UMd on the list. Even UVa was mentioned.
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By Sly Fox
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Oklahoma is not going to be in the SEC. But this Texas A&M situation over the past 24 hours has gotten real interesting. There is apparently a real battle raging in College Station with influential regents & administrators on both sides dueling over whether to stick with the rest of their traditional rivals in a move to the Pac-10 or to head east to the SEC. Gene Stallings is an A&M regent, believe it or not, and he is leading the SEC charge. The big idea being that since the Aggies program has fallen so far behind their rivals in Austin that the only way they can differentiate themselves to recruits would be by taking a separate path. This would be a MAJOR gamble. But many Ag alumni who have grown sick and tired of slipping down to the 2nd-, 3rd- & even 4th-tier program in their state find the prospect of playing in the SEC very enticing. Frustrated Ags are all over talk radio here in Houston saying they don't think they can ever reclaim their spot atop Texas football without a dramatic turn of events. Many feel this might do the trick. The Aggy AD keep stalking about time zones being an issue for fans. Whatever. With two divisions it really wouldn't have much of a scheduling impact at all.

Of course, A&M's split would be considered a declaration of war against all of their traditional rivals who would then likely blackball them from all scheduling for decades to come. It took Arkansas a long time to begin to get scheduled in Texas after their departure to the SEC killed the Southwest Conference.

For their part, the SEC would LOVE to be able to tap into the Texas television markets where the SEC really doesn't have as strong of a fanbase outside of LSU & Arkansas. But it wouldn't be until after their freshly signed TV contract expired before they could reap the benefits. A&M's waffling is all that is really holding up the Pac-10/Big XII South merger.

There seems to be a growing sentiment that the Big XII will not fold even if 8 of its 12 members bolt. Kansas, K-State, Iowa State & Baylor (as well as Mizzou it appears) would form a nice nucleus if they could perhaps snag some of the stronger MWC, WAC & C-USA teams. They could make a play to hang onto their BCS auto bid and benefit from the exit fees the other schools would be leaving behind. Essentially they would gain the best of the MWC without having all of the hangers on attached. Picture something like this:

  • Kansas
    Kansas State
    Iowa State
    Baylor
    Missouri
    TCU
    Houston
    Boise State
    BYU
    Air Force
    Utah
    Memphis


You would have key footholds in major media markets like Dallas-Ft. Worth, Houston, Denver & Kansas City to sell as a TV package as well as an outstanding league roster for hoops.

Houston announced plans today for a new football stadium and a much needed upgrade to their basketball arena. I'm sure the plans were hurried to try and convince possible leagues like the Big XII & MWC that are comers once again.
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By Sly Fox
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You mean like Austin or College Station to Seattle?

Still waiting for Huskers newser. Buddies in Austin say it will probably Tuesday or Wednesday before the Big XII South (minus Baylor & perhaps the Ags) bolts to the Left Coast. But it is a foregone conclusion save for A&M ... and when all is said & done I expect them to fall in line as well.

What comes next is where it gets real entertaining from my perspective.
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By bigsmooth
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A&M should grow a pair and go to the SEC. they could then boast of playing the best conference in college football and that would certainly help recruiting. sure the pac 10 would be MUCH stronger with the addition of the big 12 south, but to tell a recruit "SEC" i think means a lot.
By 4everfsu
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I am sorry but I don't see what Memphis would bring to the Big 12 as far as football is concerned. Terrible stadium, not a big tv market.

If you want a big tv market then bring UCF into the conference.
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By Sly Fox
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Frankly right now in Texas saying SEC really doesn't mean that much. That's why the SEC is so anxious to snare the Ags. It would open up the fertile recruiting grounds currently that are tough to reach.
By ATrain
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Apparently when the topic of expansion is mentioned in the SEC among the coaches, the talk is of Texas and Virginia Tech:

http://www.roanoke.com/sports/vtfootball/wb/249964

This whole thing is making my head hurt. First its Nebraska and Missouri to the BigTen, now its just Nebraska to the BigTen and 5/6 of the Big 12 South (and Colorado-officially now) to the Pac 10, and now it may be A&M to the SEC and apparently no one has a handle on what the SEC really wants other than Texas for its market of TV viewers.
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By Sly Fox
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4everfsu wrote:I am sorry but I don't see what Memphis would bring to the Big 12 as far as football is concerned. Terrible stadium, not a big tv market.

If you want a big tv market then bring UCF into the conference.
There is a reason I listed Memphis last when I was throwing out 12 names. But it actually isn't as tiny as you might think in regard to market size. I just listed it because it fit nicely in a footprint ... something that UCF clearly does not. I feel bad for the Knights because if they were located just about anywhere other than Florida they would be a really attractive addition to a league. But their best hope is that the Big East survives in some form.

Some other options a newly reorganized Big XII might consider would be New Mexico, SMU or even UTSA. The latter is building a killer stadium and sits in a prime media market which would pair nicely with the other Texan members.
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