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By flamesbball84
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LUconn wrote:That guy's really help drive back their snobby image. Your daughter's medical school graduation? Dock it on your grand piano?
I was reading that and was saying to myself "what the heck (only it's the "curse" word version") when i saw the grand piano thrown in there. he probably thinks we're trailer park trash for not having a regular ole piano and a macbook.

everything the guy said that could be done with the iPad is already doable with a netbook, well other than the airplane thing.
By Rocketfan
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RubberMallet wrote:
SuperJon wrote:
ALUmnus wrote: Now, if it could pull down live TV, or possibly work as a TV/multimedia remote, then we might have something...
You didn't read the whole article did you?
how could you without suddenly thrusting yourself out into oncoming traffic?
Thrusting....i think its throwing....
By Rocketfan
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ALUmnus wrote:
Rocketfan wrote:The iPad in the world around you...

Apple speaks of the iPad as an in-between device—a digital media, communications, Internet, and communications tool—that fits somewhere between an iPhone and laptop. And that makes sense. But where does it fit in your life’s locations? For me, it works this way.

People who read this also read:The living room
Assuming that you have a coffee table, that’s a perfect place for an iPad. Pick it up for casual reading, display pictures of your daughter’s medical school graduation when you next have the ladies over for tea, or fire up Safari for some couch surfing.

If you have a taller block of furniture in the room (I prefer a grand piano but any waist-high table will do), place an iPad dock on it, place your iPad in it to charge, and play slideshows of your latest vacation. Attach a couple of small speakers to the dock and you’ve easily wired your living room for sound.

The kitchen
Do you watch TV while cooking? Me neither, but my mother does, and she might enjoy catching up on one of her favorite shows available from the iTunes Store. Again, a dock with external speakers is a must (I anticipate you’re going to see a lot of third-party iPad-compatible speaker-equipped docks in the coming months). And if she’s too distracted with the bernaise sauce to watch video, perhaps she can be convinced to download an Internet radio app.

While in the kitchen, the iPad will be a great resource for looking up recipes on the Web. I routinely use an old laptop or my iPhone for this chore. The laptop is slow and the iPhone’s screen too cramped. I like the idea of a device that’s fast, has a screen larger than an iPhone’s, and is highly portable.

http://www.macworld.com/article/145999/ ... c=rss_main
Hey, a bunch of things we already have, for only $500!!

Now, if it could pull down live TV, or possibly work as a TV/multimedia remote, then we might have something...
The other rumor which i read online was Apple may devlop there own TV packages to be sold. A lot of sporting events can be bought via subscriptions online to watch live....i would like to know what MLB.tv looks like on this thing.....
By LUconn
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Why do these new fangled tablets have mobile OSs on them anyway? Why wouldn't that Dell mini have windows 7? Or the ipad have a mac OS? Do they just not have the hardware to run that stuff?
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By flamesbball84
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LUconn wrote:Why do these new fangled tablets have mobile OSs on them anyway? Why wouldn't that Dell mini have windows 7? Or the ipad have a mac OS? Do they just not have the hardware to run that stuff?
it's not optimized for mobile platforms, they are designed for regular computers for much bigger screens.
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By flamesbball84
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hopefully the dell mini 5 camera will be able to do video too. i would be able to replace my iPod touch and the mini camcorder I carry around in my pocket - that would be pretty sick.
By phoenix
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Two things:

First, HERE'S Steve Jobs' idea of the ultimate web browsing experience.

Second, HERE'S what the Mac tablet SHOULD have been. Too bad someone else did it first, and better (although MUCH more expensive).
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By flamesbball84
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phoenix wrote:Second, HERE'S what the Mac tablet SHOULD have been. Too bad someone else did it first, and better (although MUCH more expensive).
WOW way too expensive though unfortunately
By olldflame
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It also has a 13.3 inch screen and weighs over 5 pounds. It's really not a comparable device in terms of portability.
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By flamesbball84
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olldflame wrote:It also has a 13.3 inch screen and weighs over 5 pounds. It's really not a comparable device in terms of portability.
five pounds for that? jeez. my old 15.4" laptop is 7 pounds and it's rather big. i'm using it as my business laptop right now and it's a killer on the shoulders when I have it in my messenger bag - might eventually replace it with a netbook, but i'm not sure if a netbook will be able to adequately handle inDesign or photoshop
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By flamesbball84
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flamesbball84 wrote:short sell apple stock, at this point with all these rumors and inflated hopes, the product will likely end up disappointing folks.
Apple stock was 215.04 on Jan. 19 at closing. It has plummeted since then and closed at 192.06 on Friday. That's the lowest since it was 191.86 on Dec. 17 2009 and during the financial crisis back in the summer and fall of 2009.
By olldflame
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flamesbball84 wrote:
olldflame wrote:It also has a 13.3 inch screen and weighs over 5 pounds. It's really not a comparable device in terms of portability.
five pounds for that? jeez. my old 15.4" laptop is 7 pounds and it's rather big. i'm using it as my business laptop right now and it's a killer on the shoulders when I have it in my messenger bag - might eventually replace it with a netbook, but i'm not sure if a netbook will be able to adequately handle inDesign or photoshop
I don't know about inDesign, but everything I've heard is that none of the current Atom processors handle photoshop very well, even with an upgrade to 2G of RAM which is the max for these devices. The new N450 apparently isn't really any faster than the N280, just more energy effecient. Kind of silly if you ask me. How many people really need 14 hours of battery life as opposed to 10.5?
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By El Scorcho
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olldflame wrote:Kind of silly if you ask me. How many people really need 14 hours of battery life as opposed to 10.5?
I will never speak against better battery life in any device ever. Battery life is one of the biggest limitations in technology today.
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By El Scorcho
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phoenix wrote:Two things:

First, HERE'S Steve Jobs' idea of the ultimate web browsing experience.

Second, HERE'S what the Mac tablet SHOULD have been. Too bad someone else did it first, and better (although MUCH more expensive).
Flash is dying (slowly, but surely) no matter what Adobe says. (Go HTML5!) Apple is also protecting their revenue streams. (Meaning they'd rather sell games and TV shows than have people access them through Flash players on the web.) I don't like it as a user, but they think it's more profitable to do that than provide Flash on their mobile platforms so we'll see how it shakes out for them. I don't really see it going well, but they're far more successful than I'd have ever guessed they'd be. So what do I know?

That second thing is meh. Too big. Too bulky. It's like all the tablet PC's that already exist. They're very limited in their usefulness and the full OS UI's are designed for a keyboard and mouse, not fingers. It works, but it's just meh. No big deal.

I was hoping for more than just an improved iPhone UI for the iPad. I think that's probably where Apple let me down the most. That's their bread and butter. They could have done a lot better.
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By flamesbball84
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olldflame wrote:
flamesbball84 wrote:
olldflame wrote:It also has a 13.3 inch screen and weighs over 5 pounds. It's really not a comparable device in terms of portability.
five pounds for that? jeez. my old 15.4" laptop is 7 pounds and it's rather big. i'm using it as my business laptop right now and it's a killer on the shoulders when I have it in my messenger bag - might eventually replace it with a netbook, but i'm not sure if a netbook will be able to adequately handle inDesign or photoshop
I don't know about inDesign, but everything I've heard is that none of the current Atom processors handle photoshop very well, even with an upgrade to 2G of RAM which is the max for these devices. The new N450 apparently isn't really any faster than the N280, just more energy effecient. Kind of silly if you ask me. How many people really need 14 hours of battery life as opposed to 10.5?
Well if it can handle Photoshop and can most likely at least adequately handle inDesign. It's more resource intensive than photoshop depending on what you are dealing with, but I don't exactly make books in the thing either. The real test would be adobe premiere elements - i just started using it today, a friend let me borrow it for a few days to try it out. Unfortunately I have to uninstall it when I give it back :(
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By RubberMallet
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El Scorcho wrote: Flash is dying (slowly, but surely) no matter what Adobe says.
flash won't die out before the ipad is obsolete and another new fandangled gadget is out. just because the movie disc is dying out doesnt' mean sony and other companies shoudl just stop making players.
By phoenix
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El Scorcho wrote: Flash is dying (slowly, but surely) no matter what Adobe says. (Go HTML5!) Apple is also protecting their revenue streams. (Meaning they'd rather sell games and TV shows than have people access them through Flash players on the web.) I don't like it as a user, but they think it's more profitable to do that than provide Flash on their mobile platforms so we'll see how it shakes out for them.
I agree, and I'm looking forward to HTML5 becoming the standard. Until that happens, though, don't come out and call something the ultimate Internet browsing experience when it won't render so many sites properly - that's all I was complaining about. And I agree with you about Apple trying to protect their revenue stream.
By Hold My Own
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El Scorcho wrote:
olldflame wrote:Kind of silly if you ask me. How many people really need 14 hours of battery life as opposed to 10.5?
I will never speak against better battery life in any device ever. Battery life is one of the biggest limitations in technology today.

I was reading an article from Dan Hesse (Sprints CEO) talking about the advancement in battery life and how there has been no advancement in years while processors and everything advance at a much faster rate. He said he was going to put a lot of money to R&D to find better alternatives.


As far as the UI for the Ipad goes. I dont own a mac, this would have been a great way for them to put a light weight version of their UI to introduce people like myself to their UI....instead I'm being introduced to the Iphone/Itouch which I already own. To bad, at this price point they could have been able to switch alot of n00b's like myself to be one of the cult.
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By El Scorcho
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RubberMallet wrote:
El Scorcho wrote: Flash is dying (slowly, but surely) no matter what Adobe says.
flash won't die out before the ipad is obsolete and another new fandangled gadget is out. just because the movie disc is dying out doesnt' mean sony and other companies shoudl just stop making players.
Yeah, people said something similar when Apple came out with the iMac and it had no floppy drive or serial ports, only USB. This is what Apple has always done. I'm not saying it means the iPad shouldn't have Flash. I'd prefer it, personally. But, it's what they do. Most of the time it seems to work out for them.

Also, there's this:

"About Adobe: They are lazy, Jobs says. They have all this potential to do interesting things but they just refuse to do it. They don’t do anything with the approaches that Apple is taking, like Carbon. Apple does not support Flash because it is so buggy, he says. Whenever a Mac crashes more often than not it’s because of Flash. No one will be using Flash, he says. The world is moving to HTML5."

Source: http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2010/01/ ... teve-jobs/
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By rueful
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the dell mini 5 looks exactly like every other iphone rip off. Also the one picture of they have of its size compared to the iphone, at first I thought whoa thatd be nice, but then I realized, iphone is already almost too big to really fit in the pocket well, that thing would be ridic, and its way too long in proportion to its width.
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By flamesbball84
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rueful wrote:the dell mini 5 looks exactly like every other iphone rip off. Also the one picture of they have of its size compared to the iphone, at first I thought whoa thatd be nice, but then I realized, iphone is already almost too big to really fit in the pocket well, that thing would be ridic, and its way too long in proportion to its width.
http://www.engadget.com/photos/dell-min ... i/#2699809
Fits in the pocket there. Proportionally, the mini 5 is no longer than the iPhone. In that pic, the iPhone measures 2" wide, the mini 5 2.5"; height iPhone 3.8", mini 5 4.8". So for the iphone its 3.8/2 = 1.9, mini 5 it's 4.8/2.5 = 1.92. So such a marginal difference no one would really be able to tell in everyday use.

iPhone isn't much bigger than the iPod Touch (just .2 inches taller and .15 inches thicker), I have zero problem fitting an iPod Touch in the pockets of any of my pants and shorts, rather they be khakis, dress pants, or jeans.
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By mrmacphisto
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flamesbball84 wrote:Proportionally, the mini 5 is no longer than the iPhone. In that pic, the iPhone measures 2" wide, the mini 5 2.5"; height iPhone 3.8", mini 5 4.8". So for the iphone its 3.8/2 = 1.9, mini 5 it's 4.8/2.5 = 1.92. So such a marginal difference no one would really be able to tell in everyday use.
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