If roundball is your blood, this is the place to discuss the Flames as they move into the Ritchie McKay era for the 2nd time.

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By LUconn
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yeah, he was just playing basketball. This whole discussion got a little crazy.
By Champion
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SuperJon wrote:But if Jesse had already said he was coming back for sure at this point like you said he did, then it could just be a case of a former coach playing with his old team. Yeah, it's a tricky situation but to imply that purposeful illegal activity was going on is a bit much.

Logical guess at what went on:

1) The McKays went to church at Thomas Road.
2) They then stuck around and had lunch/visited with friends.
3) Ritchie found out the players were having a run in Schilling.
4a) He asked if he could come along.
4b) He was invited to play.
5) The McKays went back to Charlottesville.

Now, don't get me wrong, I don't like the fact that he's playing here this soon after or that he was wearing UVA shorts but this stuff happens everywhere. You get pickup games with coaches and players from different schools. Go to the Triangle in North Carolina and I bet you'll find a mix of UNC, Duke, NC State, NC Central, and God only knows how many other schools running together. I can almost guarantee Wojo has played in the same pick-up game as Hansbrough over the past four years.
Most NCAA violations are "accidental or coincidental". That's not the point. Your school still gets punished. The NCAA is not know for being the beacon of logic. If Layer gave an "OK" then LU could get punished as well. As a former head coach and current assitant coach he knew that this would at the very least look "shady". Yet, he did it anyway. I don't think anything was going on, but why put yourself in that position? To many it would even appear to be an intentional slap at the school. He could have went anywhere to play a pick up game of basketball. Why here? If you don't think it is an issue then call the NCAA and report it and see what happens.I loved RK when he was here and I was hurt and frustrated when he dumped us and ran, but I still have immense respect for him, however; that respect just dropped another notch.
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By Cider Jim
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Anyone know if RM renewed his Flames Club membership for next year? :wink:
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By jcmanson
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Champion wrote:If you don't think it is an issue then call the NCAA and report it and see what happens.
You got a number?
By SuperJon
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If you're seriously going to report this, you'll need to report every little thing that goes on in that office every day that's a violation. Things like this don't get reported because schools know that they break rules every day (inadvertently) and that if they start telling on schools then other schools will start telling on them.
By Hold My Own
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who decides where the line is? Never been a big fan of self policing, while the NCAA is pretty ignorant they are still the police.

with that said this should solely be up to the Athletic Department or Mens basketball, no fan should even consider this. I personally dont event think the NCAA would give it much thought if it came from anyone other then those I mentioned before.
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might apply here:

a needlessly self-destructive over-reaction to a problem: a warning against acting out of pique, or against pursuing revenge in a way that would damage oneself more than the source of one's anger.
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By jcmanson
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jcmanson wrote:
Champion wrote:If you don't think it is an issue then call the NCAA and report it and see what happens.
You got a number?
^^^ was a joke.
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LCA&LU Mom wrote:might apply here:

a needlessly self-destructive over-reaction to a problem: a warning against acting out of pique, or against pursuing revenge in a way that would damage oneself more than the source of one's anger.
Winner.
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ToTheLeft wrote:
LCA&LU Mom wrote:might apply here:

a needlessly self-destructive over-reaction to a problem: a warning against acting out of pique, or against pursuing revenge in a way that would damage oneself more than the source of one's anger.
Winner.
Winner.....
By Hold My Own
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chicken dinner
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By flamesfilmguy
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Hold My Own wrote:chicken dinner
Thank you!
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By Th3rd
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SuperJon wrote:If you're seriously going to report this, you'll need to report every little thing that goes on in that office every day that's a violation. Things like this don't get reported because schools know that they break rules every day (inadvertently) and that if they start telling on schools then other schools will start telling on them.
you would have to report the JVP group on facebook as well
By SuperJon
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No you wouldn't. A "fan group" is not considered recruiting. You're not saying, "Hey, you should come here." You're just appreciating him. There's a difference.
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By Th3rd
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SuperJon wrote:No you wouldn't. A "fan group" is not considered recruiting. You're not saying, "Hey, you should come here." You're just appreciating him. There's a difference.

i thought vince had said differently on saturday night?
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By ToTheLeft
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SuperJon wrote:No you wouldn't. A "fan group" is not considered recruiting. You're not saying, "Hey, you should come here." You're just appreciating him. There's a difference.
That's what I thought. There is no "JVP come to LU" in the group. There's just "We think You're a good player, and oh you happen to be coming to LU"
By Hold My Own
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Didnt some school just get in trouble for doing that? Started a transfer group or something?
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By flamesfilmguy
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Hold My Own wrote:Didnt some school just get in trouble for doing that? Started a transfer group or something?
TD Mentioned it earlier. NC State
By SuperJon
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Hold My Own wrote:Didnt some school just get in trouble for doing that? Started a transfer group or something?
If it's in any way telling the recruit "hey, come to our school" then it's a violation. If it's a group talking about how good the player is and leaving it at that, it's fine.
By blwall1416
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also.......Layer could have called the NCAA ahead of time & gotten permission......maybe he did, maybe he didn't.......we don't know.....but its erroneous on anyone's part to assume one so strongly over the other.....unless you absolutely know.
By TylerBakersGonnaBGreat
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I think we are missing the real point of this thread... It was to calm me down! You guys are terrible at this! :D
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By RagingTireFire
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TylerBakersGonnaBGreat wrote:I think we are missing the real point of this thread... It was to calm me down! You guys are terrible at this! :D
You came to FlameFans looking for calm? That's like going to Olive Garden for Chinese food.
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By Fumblerooskies
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TylerBakersGonnaBGreat wrote:I think we are missing the real point of this thread... It was to calm me down! You guys are terrible at this! :D
...you have to admit...it has made for some pretty good :popcorn
By TylerBakersGonnaBGreat
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Fumblerooskies wrote:
TylerBakersGonnaBGreat wrote:I think we are missing the real point of this thread... It was to calm me down! You guys are terrible at this! :D
...you have to admit...it has made for some pretty good :popcorn


have you ever known me to NOT light a fuse?
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By flamesfilmguy
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BuryYourDuke wrote:Surprise. To the left had something critical to chime in with in this thread. Go to the UVA boards and hang out already bro.
Dude come on. don't start that crap again. and TTL don't even respond. just let it go. both of you.
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