[markymark550]

Couple of answers.....

Scholarships are renewed on an annual basis. Players usually sign the scholarship for next year in April. If they decide to go elsewhere or if the school decides not to offer them a scholarship for the next season... they obviously will not sign one.

However, most of the time schools decide to not extend a scholarship for the next year due to off the court issues: whether it be grades, drugs, arrests, whatever. Coaches typically don't say, "Well you aren't developing on the court as much as we would've liked so... no scholarship for you next year!!" In my opinion, it looks very bad for a program to run off players due to not having an available scholarship. You know you have 13. Don't promise more than that.


At the D1 level, basketball players cannot sign partial scholarships. They have full rides and full rides only.

Everything is dead on except for your last 2 sentences.

D1 basketball players can sign partial scholarships. However, the NCAA views that partial scholarship as if it were a full scholarship. This allows programs that aren't fully funded to have the maximum number of scholarship athletes on the team without penalizing that school for its lack of funding. That brings up the issue of whether or not a school that doesn't have a fully funded athletic department should be allowed to be D1, but that's a different topic for a different thread.

[jcmanson]

Yeah I forgot to mention, the first 5 guys I mentioned on the roster in the first post is my way too early prediction for starting lineup. I think we will play 4 guards and one post.

[UNCA Alum]

Didn't know that Mark. Wonder how many schools don't have 13 full scholarships.

But the point still remains the same. You can't have 15 guys taking 13 scholarships for basketball with say, four of them being on half scholarship. A questioned which I think was posed at some point in the thread.

[jcmanson]

It seems like Ritchie likes to only play 6 or 7 guys, but that may have just been out of necessity the past 2 years. It will be interesting to see if we play 9 or 10 guys substantial minutes.

[dompennix]

It seems like Ritchie likes to only play 6 or 7 guys, but that may have just been out of necessity the past 2 years. It will be interesting to see if we play 9 or 10 guys substantial minutes.

At least this year Ritchie let the guys play a little more than last years bench players

[Schfourteenteen]

It seems like Ritchie likes to only play 6 or 7 guys, but that may have just been out of necessity the past 2 years. It will be interesting to see if we play 9 or 10 guys substantial minutes.

***Disclaimer - I am stupid***

It looks like if youre not in the top 6 or 7, you are left out and have no idea what to do.

[olldflame]

It seems like Ritchie likes to only play 6 or 7 guys, but that may have just been out of necessity the past 2 years. It will be interesting to see if we play 9 or 10 guys substantial minutes.

Actually, this year we had 8 players who averaged 11 minutes or more per game, including a walkon. Weaver and Austen had the least minutes, but Austin started 4 games. The last time a healthy, eligible player did not play in a game was Feb 4 against G-W when Weaver did not get in. It is true that we had 4 players who played 30+ minutes, but the rest were pretty well spread out.

http://www.libertyflames.com/wwwadmin/g ... embb09.htm

[markymark550]

Didn't know that Mark. Wonder how many schools don't have 13 full scholarships.

But the point still remains the same. You can't have 15 guys taking 13 scholarships for basketball with say, four of them being on half scholarship. A questioned which I think was posed at some point in the thread.

I don't know how many schools aren't fully funded, but I know at one point a couple of years ago when a lot of schools applied for reclassification to D1 (before the NCAA put some restrictions on that process) that not all of those schools could offer all 13 scholarships.

But yeah, your scenario is definitely against NCAA rules. Like I said before, even if a school offered a partial scholly (for whatever reason), the NCAA views that as a full scholarship. So it is essentially that the number of scholarships awarded, regardless of full or partial, has to be less than or equal to 13.

[jcmanson]

I think this can definitely be updated. My all too early prediction for starting lineup:

Jesse
Ohman
Minaya
Carter
Austin

[Dr. Sheh]

ESPN has this list up of players that are considering Marquette, but haven't committed anywhere yet.

2009 Players Considering - Marquette

Glenn Bryant Power Forward 6-7 190 Oak Hill Academy (VA) PF #34 89 Undeclared
Victor Rudd Small Forward 6-8 190 Findlay College Prep (NV) SF #27 89 Undeclared
DeAndre Kane Shooting Guard 6-4 190 The Patterson School (NC) POST 88 Undeclared
Michael Haynes Power Forward 6-6 190 Fenger Academy (IL) PF #199 75 Undeclared
Jesse Morgan Shooting Guard 6-4 175 Olney H.S. (PA) SG #201 75 Undeclared
Troy Daniels Shooting Guard 6-3 190 William Fleming H.S. (VA) 40 Undeclared
Jamel Jackson Shooting Guard 6-3 195 Technical Career Institutes (NY) JC 40 Undeclared

Any chance Layer is able to bring one of these guys to the burg for next year? Assuming we have a scholly that is...

[ballah09]

ESPN has this list up of players that are considering Marquette, but haven't committed anywhere yet.

2009 Players Considering - Marquette

Glenn Bryant Power Forward 6-7 190 Oak Hill Academy (VA) PF #34 89 Undeclared
Victor Rudd Small Forward 6-8 190 Findlay College Prep (NV) SF #27 89 Undeclared
DeAndre Kane Shooting Guard 6-4 190 The Patterson School (NC) POST 88 Undeclared
Michael Haynes Power Forward 6-6 190 Fenger Academy (IL) PF #199 75 Undeclared
Jesse Morgan Shooting Guard 6-4 175 Olney H.S. (PA) SG #201 75 Undeclared
Troy Daniels Shooting Guard 6-3 190 William Fleming H.S. (VA) 40 Undeclared
Jamel Jackson Shooting Guard 6-3 195 Technical Career Institutes (NY) JC 40 Undeclared

Any chance Layer is able to bring one of these guys to the burg for next year? Assuming we have a scholly that is...

if we could land this guy....

[Th3rd]

ESPN has this list up of players that are considering Marquette, but haven't committed anywhere yet.

2009 Players Considering - Marquette

Glenn Bryant Power Forward 6-7 190 Oak Hill Academy (VA) PF #34 89 Undeclared
Victor Rudd Small Forward 6-8 190 Findlay College Prep (NV) SF #27 89 Undeclared
DeAndre Kane Shooting Guard 6-4 190 The Patterson School (NC) POST 88 Undeclared
Michael Haynes Power Forward 6-6 190 Fenger Academy (IL) PF #199 75 Undeclared
Jesse Morgan Shooting Guard 6-4 175 Olney H.S. (PA) SG #201 75 Undeclared
Troy Daniels Shooting Guard 6-3 190 William Fleming H.S. (VA) 40 Undeclared
Jamel Jackson Shooting Guard 6-3 195 Technical Career Institutes (NY) JC 40 Undeclared

Any chance Layer is able to bring one of these guys to the burg for next year? Assuming we have a scholly that is...

if we could land this guy....

i think we would be more likely to land the Oak Hill guy out of this list, Oak Hill is right up the road from the Burg so if the guy has any connections with Layer look for good things to happen

[coolhandluke]

ESPN has this list up of players that are considering Marquette, but haven't committed anywhere yet.
Any chance Layer is able to bring one of these guys to the burg for next year? Assuming we have a scholly that is...

if we could land this guy....

i think we would be more likely to land the Oak Hill guy out of this list, Oak Hill is right up the road from the Burg so if the guy has any connections with Layer look for good things to happen

That's the one I want! An 89 ranked power forward. That's what we need.

[LUconn]

I know that Oak Hill is close, but the fact that he plays basketball for Oak Hill pretty much rules us out.

[Th3rd]

yea, oak hill is elite, had it been hargrave i would feel better in saying we have a good chance

[olldflame]

For what it's worth (probably not a lot), Soko is also rated an 89 by ESPN.

[ballah09]

i've seen Kane play, dude is amazing

nvm, old article...

[coolhandluke]

For what it's worth (probably not a lot), Soko is also rated an 89 by ESPN.

which is why I also hope he signs still! haha.

[vabigpoppa]

if we could land this guy....

i think we would be more likely to land the Oak Hill guy out of this list, Oak Hill is right up the road from the Burg so if the guy has any connections with Layer look for good things to happen

That's the one I want! An 89 ranked power forward. That's what we need.

you guys are funny, i hope youre joking

[markymark550]

While you won't get that Oak Hill kid listed above, it's not out of the realm of possibility that an OHA kid goes to a Big South school. There are at least 2 former OHA kids (that I remember...possibly more) that played in the BSC.

[vabigpoppa]

While you won't get that Oak Hill kid listed above, it's not out of the realm of possibility that an OHA kid goes to a Big South school. There are at least 2 former OHA kids (that I remember...possibly more) that played in the BSC.

unca got one this year

[TDDance234]

While you won't get that Oak Hill kid listed above, it's not out of the realm of possibility that an OHA kid goes to a Big South school. There are at least 2 former OHA kids (that I remember...possibly more) that played in the BSC.

unca got one this year

Yep...Austin Alecxih, ESPN has him rated a 75.

[markymark550]

so make that 3 players

in the mid to late 90s, WU had Robbie Waldrop and UNCA had Brett Carey, who were both OHA grads

[BUSIMAN23]

I heard Jesse might be out the door

[jcmanson]

I heard Jesse might be out the door

I've heard the same, but didn't want to be the bearer.