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By SuperJon
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coolhandluke wrote:he's slow on the forty.
Rashad was a 4.7 after his sophomore year.
By coolhandluke
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so... Its still not fast for a RB... It's fast for a FB or a TE, but kinda slow for a RB.
By SuperJon
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I agree it's a little bit slow. However, 40 times are slightly overrated for running backs. And I'd be willing to bet once he got in our program a year or two he'd shave .2 off of that, if not more.
By olldflame
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You really can't compare a guy who is 5'9" 170 with Rashad.

On the other hand, Dre Barnes was about that size as a Freshman, and didn't have a great 40 time either. What he had was elusive quickness, tenacity, great balance and explosive leg strength, and that was enough to make him a fixture in the backfield from day 1.
By SuperJon
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My comparison was meant that a kid can get a lot better under our weight program in a year or two.

Spring of 06 he ran a 4.7.

Spring of 08 he ran a 4.4 flat.
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By Sly Fox
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The News & Observer wrote:On the Recruiting Front: Kevin Fogg picks Liberty
Submitted by jmikeblake on 01/27/2009 - 23:14


While at the Apex-Middle Creek basketball game Tuesday night, I ran into Apex football coach Bob Wolfe. It's always good to see coach Wolfe, especially when he has some good news to share.

Like how his running back Kevin Fogg has committed to Liberty University this past weekend.

Fogg had made an official visit to the school in November. He had also been considering Presbyterian and Elon.
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That 40 time on the Rivals profile is auto timed from a combine so it is more accurate than most hand-timed 40s you see listed. The NFL is full of similar-sized RBs who don't have blazing 40s. It is what the kid can do with the ball in his hands utilizing his vision, anticipation and agility that is the key to success. I've never seen this kid. But I'm far from ready to toss a kid under the bus because he doesn't have world class speed.

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Kevin Fogg
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By "R" i "
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Good to see that RB stable filling back up.

Welcome Kevin.
By coolhandluke
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I'm not throwing him under he bus. Maybe he will be great! Who knows.
By coachB
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Kevin is not slow. He was timed with a hurt ankle. Last fall at the shrine bowl combine he ran a 4.38
By SuperJon
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I was hoping this thread would get some action after the highlight videos came out. I couldn't say anything about him specifically before that but Fogg is a sub 11 100-meter dash runner. He's pretty quick.
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By Rooster Cogburn
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I was impressed with his quickness shown on the video! Very explosive
By coachB
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More info on Kevin. When he went to San Antonio for the U.S. Army combine he had a hurt ankle as I said,
Kevin is one of the fastest kids in the Raleigh N.C. area. He now weighs about 175, he benches 270,
deep squats 375, and runs a high 4.2 to 4.3 pro shuttle. I know this because I taught him and coached him his
soph., and jr.years. I have since retired, yet I still help out .
By olldflame
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Thanks for that inside info coachB. He certainly looked much faster on his video than that 40 time would have indicated, and you always wonder if that was the competition or not. Him being injured for that combine sure explains it. Speed is something we like! :nod
By coachB
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olldflame, What video did you see that had Kevin in it?
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By PAmedic
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welcome aboard, son.

any chance his nickname is "Phineas" ?

guessing NO



sigh- no one gets me.
By olldflame
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Oh, I do Medic. If he enrolls in summer school Mr. Fogg should be "around the Burg in 80 days."
By coachB
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Kevin is planning to go to summer school so he can work out with the other players that are on campus during the summer. Also he can learn the offense as well as get to know the coaches better and them know him better. Not to mention
get a jump on school.
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By Sly Fox
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You never know when classic British literature resets are going to come from Philly cops.

Thanks for the details, CoachB.
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By RagingTireFire
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Sly Fox wrote:You never know when classic British literature resets are going to come from Philly cops.
It's classic French literature and it was Phileas Fogg. Carry on.
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By BJWilliams
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I think we could potentially end up with a Thunder and Lightning type backfield (more so than before with RJ and ZT) with the guys we have coming in and the guys we have already on the team)
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By RagingTireFire
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The Lightning part I get but who exactly would be Thunder in that scenario? We don't have another RB on the roster over 200 pounds.
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By Sly Fox
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RagingTireFire wrote:
Sly Fox wrote:You never know when classic British literature resets are going to come from Philly cops.
It's classic French literature and it was Phileas Fogg. Carry on.
I stand corrected. :oops:
Coaching changes

It appears your intel was on the mark.