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By Schfourteenteen
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#205092
Fumblerooskies wrote:
Foodguy wrote:The Manager at Doc's has been removed from his position as of Oct 27. He had been on an action plan to make improvements to the service at Doc's which, needless to say, had not been improved. We ask your patience as we search and hire a more qualified manager.
Please check in with us again and let us know when the new manager is on-board. I am certainly willing to give it another shot.
I wont, but it has nothing to do with Doc's Diner, either
By ALUmnus
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#205096
The suspense is killing me.
By TIMSCAR20
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#205153
I may have to make Doc's my post game destination if they work out the kinks. FlameRob, great meeting you the other day at homecoming btw. Sly, heads roll when things aren't done right thanks to you buddy :P
By theophilus
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#205629
I was with a few of my friends at Doc's last weekend as well and have gone there on several occassions. I would like to consider myself an observant person. I will agree that there are areas in which the service at Doc's is lacking. However, I did notice several waitstaff members who were doing a fantastic job. Something that I was not impressed with was that despite how great those servers were, I was not impressed with the fact that they were not tipped by their tables. The main constituents of those tables, unfortunately, were students.

I am a Liberty student with access to meal points and I pay for my meals at Doc's with those meal points. However, I leave a tip and more so, I try to leave the standard 15%-20%. The serving staff at Doc's only make something like $2.00-$3.00 an hour. My observations have shown me (including observations with visiting Doc's with my friends who are also fellow students) that most students who pay for their meals with meal points leave little (less than 10, yes TEN, percent of the total bill) or nothing. There are several explainations that I can come up with for that other than service experience:

1. Students don't realize that Doc's is NOT the ROT and the people who work as servers do not get paid $9.00/hr. They rely on their tips to survive. I decided to ask one of the servers their life story. The woman told me that she was a single mother of four who was left by her husband for another woman. She has to work 50+ hours to afford her rent and food for her kids. Her hours are such that she does not even get to spend that quality time with her kids that she would like, but she is doing her duty as a loving mother to provide for her kids, and she needs the tips she gets to clothe and feed her family.

2. As Doc's is NOT the ROT, and having meal points, does not mean that the food is "free". Every table that does not leave a tip for the server is essentially "stealing" from that server. They work really hard. I've noticed how difficult it is to work in a restaurant. I used to work in one myself. They work hard for the money they get, and when they are not tipped, especially the better servers, it is almost like a slap in the face. When I am home and I go to work for the summer or breaks, I expect to get paid for the work that I do. Well, I am assuming (hopefully correctly) that the servers at Doc's expect to get paid too. I noticed that everytime I take out my ID at the table, the server's face almost cringes in discouragement, because they don't know if I, as a student who will most likely use his meal points to pay for his meal, will be tipping him/her or not.

3. If students do happen to realize that Doc's in NOT the ROT and know that they need to tip and they don't, they either: A.) need to carry cash more often if they plan on going to Doc's to tip their server; B.) frankly just do not care; or C.) to stop going there, taking up a table, and go to SubConnection for a sandwich. I look at that as breaking the second greatest commandment which says that we need to love our neighbor as ourselves. I don't mean to come across as attacking those who are not tipping, but where is the Christian love of tipping those who need the money? I mean, most people don't work because they want to, they work because they NEED to. People have bills to pay and mouths to feed, most likely not their own.

I think that Doc's is a really great place to eat a meal and fellowship with friends, which was the intended purpose and serves to remember Dr. Falwell. Hearing the good Doctor on several occassions and knowing that he was such a generous person, I wonder how he would feel about the lack of generosity that several of his students have shown in their going to Doc's.
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By Kolzilla41
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theophilus wrote:I was with a few of my friends at Doc's last weekend as well and have gone there on several occassions. I would like to consider myself an observant person. I will agree that there are areas in which the service at Doc's is lacking. However, I did notice several waitstaff members who were doing a fantastic job. Something that I was not impressed with was that despite how great those servers were, I was not impressed with the fact that they were not tipped by their tables. The main constituents of those tables, unfortunately, were students.

I am a Liberty student with access to meal points and I pay for my meals at Doc's with those meal points. However, I leave a tip and more so, I try to leave the standard 15%-20%. The serving staff at Doc's only make something like $2.00-$3.00 an hour. My observations have shown me (including observations with visiting Doc's with my friends who are also fellow students) that most students who pay for their meals with meal points leave little (less than 10, yes TEN, percent of the total bill) or nothing. There are several explainations that I can come up with for that other than service experience:

1. Students don't realize that Doc's is NOT the ROT and the people who work as servers do not get paid $9.00/hr. They rely on their tips to survive. I decided to ask one of the servers their life story. The woman told me that she was a single mother of four who was left by her husband for another woman. She has to work 50+ hours to afford her rent and food for her kids. Her hours are such that she does not even get to spend that quality time with her kids that she would like, but she is doing her duty as a loving mother to provide for her kids, and she needs the tips she gets to clothe and feed her family.

2. As Doc's is NOT the ROT, and having meal points, does not mean that the food is "free". Every table that does not leave a tip for the server is essentially "stealing" from that server. They work really hard. I've noticed how difficult it is to work in a restaurant. I used to work in one myself. They work hard for the money they get, and when they are not tipped, especially the better servers, it is almost like a slap in the face. When I am home and I go to work for the summer or breaks, I expect to get paid for the work that I do. Well, I am assuming (hopefully correctly) that the servers at Doc's expect to get paid too. I noticed that everytime I take out my ID at the table, the server's face almost cringes in discouragement, because they don't know if I, as a student who will most likely use his meal points to pay for his meal, will be tipping him/her or not.

3. If students do happen to realize that Doc's in NOT the ROT and know that they need to tip and they don't, they either: A.) need to carry cash more often if they plan on going to Doc's to tip their server; B.) frankly just do not care; or C.) to stop going there, taking up a table, and go to SubConnection for a sandwich. I look at that as breaking the second greatest commandment which says that we need to love our neighbor as ourselves. I don't mean to come across as attacking those who are not tipping, but where is the Christian love of tipping those who need the money? I mean, most people don't work because they want to, they work because they NEED to. People have bills to pay and mouths to feed, most likely not their own.

I think that Doc's is a really great place to eat a meal and fellowship with friends, which was the intended purpose and serves to remember Dr. Falwell. Hearing the good Doctor on several occassions and knowing that he was such a generous person, I wonder how he would feel about the lack of generosity that several of his students have shown in their going to Doc's.



My experience in general is college students do not tip at all. I manged with two different companies, all of which the resturaunts were near colleges and this happened all of the time. This unfortunately makes the staff have a "don't care" attitude and subsequently affects the service they give. If I could change one thing at Doc's, pay them $8.00 and I garuntee there will be better service.
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By JDUB
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#205639
flamerbob wrote:
theophilus wrote:I was with a few of my friends at Doc's last weekend as well and have gone there on several occassions. I would like to consider myself an observant person. I will agree that there are areas in which the service at Doc's is lacking. However, I did notice several waitstaff members who were doing a fantastic job. Something that I was not impressed with was that despite how great those servers were, I was not impressed with the fact that they were not tipped by their tables. The main constituents of those tables, unfortunately, were students.

I am a Liberty student with access to meal points and I pay for my meals at Doc's with those meal points. However, I leave a tip and more so, I try to leave the standard 15%-20%. The serving staff at Doc's only make something like $2.00-$3.00 an hour. My observations have shown me (including observations with visiting Doc's with my friends who are also fellow students) that most students who pay for their meals with meal points leave little (less than 10, yes TEN, percent of the total bill) or nothing. There are several explainations that I can come up with for that other than service experience:

1. Students don't realize that Doc's is NOT the ROT and the people who work as servers do not get paid $9.00/hr. They rely on their tips to survive. I decided to ask one of the servers their life story. The woman told me that she was a single mother of four who was left by her husband for another woman. She has to work 50+ hours to afford her rent and food for her kids. Her hours are such that she does not even get to spend that quality time with her kids that she would like, but she is doing her duty as a loving mother to provide for her kids, and she needs the tips she gets to clothe and feed her family.

2. As Doc's is NOT the ROT, and having meal points, does not mean that the food is "free". Every table that does not leave a tip for the server is essentially "stealing" from that server. They work really hard. I've noticed how difficult it is to work in a restaurant. I used to work in one myself. They work hard for the money they get, and when they are not tipped, especially the better servers, it is almost like a slap in the face. When I am home and I go to work for the summer or breaks, I expect to get paid for the work that I do. Well, I am assuming (hopefully correctly) that the servers at Doc's expect to get paid too. I noticed that everytime I take out my ID at the table, the server's face almost cringes in discouragement, because they don't know if I, as a student who will most likely use his meal points to pay for his meal, will be tipping him/her or not.

3. If students do happen to realize that Doc's in NOT the ROT and know that they need to tip and they don't, they either: A.) need to carry cash more often if they plan on going to Doc's to tip their server; B.) frankly just do not care; or C.) to stop going there, taking up a table, and go to SubConnection for a sandwich. I look at that as breaking the second greatest commandment which says that we need to love our neighbor as ourselves. I don't mean to come across as attacking those who are not tipping, but where is the Christian love of tipping those who need the money? I mean, most people don't work because they want to, they work because they NEED to. People have bills to pay and mouths to feed, most likely not their own.

I think that Doc's is a really great place to eat a meal and fellowship with friends, which was the intended purpose and serves to remember Dr. Falwell. Hearing the good Doctor on several occassions and knowing that he was such a generous person, I wonder how he would feel about the lack of generosity that several of his students have shown in their going to Doc's.



My experience in general is college students do not tip at all. I manged with two different companies, all of which the resturaunts were near colleges and this happened all of the time. This unfortunately makes the staff have a "don't care" attitude and subsequently affects the service they give. If I could change one thing at Doc's, pay them $8.00 and I garuntee there will be better service.
good idea bob. i think most students paying with meal points never consider that they are supposed to leave a tip. they just honestly don't think about it because when they use meal points they are used to just swiping and leaving. another option would be including the tip on bills that are paid with meal points. that would be no different than resturaunts that include it on large parties
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By Schfourteenteen
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#205643
Is it impossible to create a system where the wait staff gets tipped through meal points? Using MP to pay for the meal only completly defeats the purpose of going there. Most people who havent been there before are told they can pay for it with MP. Then they walk in the door and someone says MP can only be used for the mean, not the tip. Well if they knew that in the first place it may be easier to find money to bring.

Either way, I dont think it would be difficult for there to be a 10, 15, 20 and 25% tip option through MP. Simply calculate that, add it to the charge, and the manager dish out the earnings in cash at the end of the week. At this point, a system like that would be satisfactory to the wait staff, simply because it bring them more money.
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By justagirl
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#205764
flamerbob wrote:
theophilus wrote:I was with a few of my friends at Doc's last weekend as well and have gone there on several occassions. I would like to consider myself an observant person. I will agree that there are areas in which the service at Doc's is lacking. However, I did notice several waitstaff members who were doing a fantastic job. Something that I was not impressed with was that despite how great those servers were, I was not impressed with the fact that they were not tipped by their tables. The main constituents of those tables, unfortunately, were students.

I am a Liberty student with access to meal points and I pay for my meals at Doc's with those meal points. However, I leave a tip and more so, I try to leave the standard 15%-20%. The serving staff at Doc's only make something like $2.00-$3.00 an hour. My observations have shown me (including observations with visiting Doc's with my friends who are also fellow students) that most students who pay for their meals with meal points leave little (less than 10, yes TEN, percent of the total bill) or nothing. There are several explainations that I can come up with for that other than service experience:

1. Students don't realize that Doc's is NOT the ROT and the people who work as servers do not get paid $9.00/hr. They rely on their tips to survive. I decided to ask one of the servers their life story. The woman told me that she was a single mother of four who was left by her husband for another woman. She has to work 50+ hours to afford her rent and food for her kids. Her hours are such that she does not even get to spend that quality time with her kids that she would like, but she is doing her duty as a loving mother to provide for her kids, and she needs the tips she gets to clothe and feed her family.

2. As Doc's is NOT the ROT, and having meal points, does not mean that the food is "free". Every table that does not leave a tip for the server is essentially "stealing" from that server. They work really hard. I've noticed how difficult it is to work in a restaurant. I used to work in one myself. They work hard for the money they get, and when they are not tipped, especially the better servers, it is almost like a slap in the face. When I am home and I go to work for the summer or breaks, I expect to get paid for the work that I do. Well, I am assuming (hopefully correctly) that the servers at Doc's expect to get paid too. I noticed that everytime I take out my ID at the table, the server's face almost cringes in discouragement, because they don't know if I, as a student who will most likely use his meal points to pay for his meal, will be tipping him/her or not.

3. If students do happen to realize that Doc's in NOT the ROT and know that they need to tip and they don't, they either: A.) need to carry cash more often if they plan on going to Doc's to tip their server; B.) frankly just do not care; or C.) to stop going there, taking up a table, and go to SubConnection for a sandwich. I look at that as breaking the second greatest commandment which says that we need to love our neighbor as ourselves. I don't mean to come across as attacking those who are not tipping, but where is the Christian love of tipping those who need the money? I mean, most people don't work because they want to, they work because they NEED to. People have bills to pay and mouths to feed, most likely not their own.

I think that Doc's is a really great place to eat a meal and fellowship with friends, which was the intended purpose and serves to remember Dr. Falwell. Hearing the good Doctor on several occassions and knowing that he was such a generous person, I wonder how he would feel about the lack of generosity that several of his students have shown in their going to Doc's.



My experience in general is college students do not tip at all. I manged with two different companies, all of which the resturaunts were near colleges and this happened all of the time. This unfortunately makes the staff have a "don't care" attitude and subsequently affects the service they give. If I could change one thing at Doc's, pay them $8.00 and I garuntee there will be better service.

Really? I served for four years, and felt that some of my best tips came from other college kids who had also been right where i was at. Sadly, my worst tips were from the sunday church crowd, and older people who don't have a clue. Also, i don't think that your tips should affect your service. if you were hired to serve, you know you will be at the mercy of whatever your tables leave you. You signed up for living on an unstable income, and you know it will be exactly that. it doesn't give you a right to not do your job well.
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By JDUB
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i don't know anyone in college who doesn't tip well. i generally tip 15-25%, whatever makes it round up to an even amount. Like justagirl said, i hear bad things about the sunday crowd but i never hear negatives about college kids not tipping
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By Kolzilla41
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#205855
Well unfortunately my comment was a reality not a generalization. And I agree about the church crowd. They were some of the worse. I used love it when I was serving they would leave that tract that looked like a $100 bill and inside was $4 tip on a $60 check. Good thing I was already a Christian. BTW, I am glad students tipped you well.
By dtporter
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#206370
Hey guys, I had a friend refer me to this forum since I currently work at Doc's Diner.

I worked there every single day during the two week opening in the spring and I worked there again when it reopened and have worked there ever since. I know about the problems Doc's Diner has at the moment, and I know about the problems that it used to have that we resolved.

First of all, I want to say that when Doc's Diner was hiring, they hired entry-level servers, or servers without prior restaurant experience. This is part of the reason for all these Doc's Diner horror stories. Simply new servers who were stressed and/or not very good at multi-tasking, (serving).

Another reason for poor service falls on new and/or training hosts. Hosts, who sometimes seat people without putting them on a wait, are the reason food takes so long. When the kitchen is only so big, (for the record we have an extremely small kitchen), and the host seats the entire restaurant without a wait. The kitchen can only put orders out so fast, so instead of customers waiting outside, they wait at the tables, which makes the servers and restaurant look bad.

This was the reason for some of your "2 hour wait" horror stories. This was a regular problem during the two week opening, I remember. The restaurant would open at 5 sharp, we would open the doors, and then the hosts would seat every single person who was in line outside, filling the restaurant, stressing out waiters, and driving cooks insane.

We've worked out that problem. For everyone who isn't coming to Doc's anymore because of a previously long wait experience, come back!

I've also noticed how a few of you were mentioning tips with mealpoints and tips in general. I've got a few stories about tips that can parallel your stories about service..

I take my serving job seriously. I will always go out of my way for a customer, and I always am striving to be a better waiter. I know the menu front to back, I've tried most of the food, and I know what good service is.

No matter how good of service I give people. I usually get stiffed, (no tip at all), regularly 3-5 times a night. And this doesn't include the tips that don't even equal up to 5%.

When I'm serving a section that has a party table (the big booths), I dread counting tips at the end of the night. You know why? Because at average I usually get about a 5% tip on large parties of 8-15 people. I've had tables with $150 dollar checks leave me nothing. And I DO NOT give poor service. So to anyone who says the majority of college students tip well.. you're wrong. The majority of college students do not tip well, believe me.

As for your suggestions on being able to tip with meal points, we can't do that, believe me we've thought about it, :P. I forget the exact reason why, but I think it's either tax and/or legal reasons.

So as far as tips go for Doc's Diner, it sucks. On a friday/saturday night, waiters there consider a good night if you walk with 30. In fact, I worked tonight, and I made $37 (a better than average night). Although I did work 8 hours.

I don't really know all that I can cover about Doc's Diner, but if you guys have any questions, or any questions about management let me know. I know alot about that place, alot of the suggestions and improvements have been from my own personal feedback.

And finally, for all you people who have had a bad experience or even just a mediocre experience. Come in one more time and ask for Daniel (me), and I'll be sure to give you great service. If anyone wants to take me up on that I usually work Thursday, Saturday, and Sunday nights.
By LUconn
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#206371
Not including tips, do you make the wage of a normal job or do you make a normal waiter's rate which is well below minimum wage?
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By Cider Jim
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#206374
Daniel, how many cooks work on a busy night?
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By adam42381
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#206390
dtporter wrote:Hey guys, I had a friend refer me to this forum since I currently work at Doc's Diner.

I worked there every single day during the two week opening in the spring and I worked there again when it reopened and have worked there ever since. I know about the problems Doc's Diner has at the moment, and I know about the problems that it used to have that we resolved.

First of all, I want to say that when Doc's Diner was hiring, they hired entry-level servers, or servers without prior restaurant experience. This is part of the reason for all these Doc's Diner horror stories. Simply new servers who were stressed and/or not very good at multi-tasking, (serving).

Another reason for poor service falls on new and/or training hosts. Hosts, who sometimes seat people without putting them on a wait, are the reason food takes so long. When the kitchen is only so big, (for the record we have an extremely small kitchen), and the host seats the entire restaurant without a wait. The kitchen can only put orders out so fast, so instead of customers waiting outside, they wait at the tables, which makes the servers and restaurant look bad.

This was the reason for some of your "2 hour wait" horror stories. This was a regular problem during the two week opening, I remember. The restaurant would open at 5 sharp, we would open the doors, and then the hosts would seat every single person who was in line outside, filling the restaurant, stressing out waiters, and driving cooks insane.

We've worked out that problem. For everyone who isn't coming to Doc's anymore because of a previously long wait experience, come back!

I've also noticed how a few of you were mentioning tips with mealpoints and tips in general. I've got a few stories about tips that can parallel your stories about service..

I take my serving job seriously. I will always go out of my way for a customer, and I always am striving to be a better waiter. I know the menu front to back, I've tried most of the food, and I know what good service is.

No matter how good of service I give people. I usually get stiffed, (no tip at all), regularly 3-5 times a night. And this doesn't include the tips that don't even equal up to 5%.

When I'm serving a section that has a party table (the big booths), I dread counting tips at the end of the night. You know why? Because at average I usually get about a 5% tip on large parties of 8-15 people. I've had tables with $150 dollar checks leave me nothing. And I DO NOT give poor service. So to anyone who says the majority of college students tip well.. you're wrong. The majority of college students do not tip well, believe me.

As for your suggestions on being able to tip with meal points, we can't do that, believe me we've thought about it, :P. I forget the exact reason why, but I think it's either tax and/or legal reasons.

So as far as tips go for Doc's Diner, it sucks. On a friday/saturday night, waiters there consider a good night if you walk with 30. In fact, I worked tonight, and I made $37 (a better than average night). Although I did work 8 hours.

I don't really know all that I can cover about Doc's Diner, but if you guys have any questions, or any questions about management let me know. I know alot about that place, alot of the suggestions and improvements have been from my own personal feedback.

And finally, for all you people who have had a bad experience or even just a mediocre experience. Come in one more time and ask for Daniel (me), and I'll be sure to give you great service. If anyone wants to take me up on that I usually work Thursday, Saturday, and Sunday nights.
No offense, but if you're making $37 in tips on an 8 hour weekend shift and that's better than normal, you need to find a new place to work. Add in your $3 or so an hour from the restaurant your still below $8 an hour. Not worth it for the hard work you're putting in. There are tons of restaurants in town that could use an experienced waiter. You'd definitely make at least double what you are now on weekends.
By dtporter
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#206404
Because so many waiters were recently leaving due to tips, Doc's Diner staff handed out raises. Instead of making 2.35 an hour, we now make 3.35 an hour. The best thing though is that on our checks we're guaranteed 8.00 if we don't meet that in tips, (which usually means we get 8 an hour on our checks.. :roll:).

So even when I do get tipped badly, I can still look at the fact that I'm at least getting 8 dollars an hour.

But yeah, for the amount of work I do and the hours I have to work, I don't think I'll be at Doc's much longer. I am entry level server though, so I'm going to try to get about 6 months waiting experience at Doc's, stick it on my resume, and get a job at a better restaurant.

As for the cooks Cider Jim, the kitchen makeup is: one grill chef (entree's, burgers, steaks), one breakfast chef (all breakfast food), one appetizer chef (makes appetizers, helps with grill). Thats all we have in the back of the kitchen, as for the front we have: one expo (puts together orders), one sandwich chef (makes sandwiches/soup), and one salad chef (which makes the salads and prepares dressings). We have some very talented and efficient cooks so I think the setup is perfect for how big our kitchen is, even on busy nights, we're able to stay on top the orders, the kitchen is alot better than it was when we first opened.

If you guys have any more questions keep them coming. :D
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By Schfourteenteen
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Does management have a plan to make up for the small kitchen area? I see youre saying the chef's are very efficient, but that still brings the problem that the restaurant still cannot operate at full capacity effectively.

I know this sounds crazy but long term is there a possibility that Doc's Diner could expand into the Eatside market(next door) to make room for a large kitchen?
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By justagirl
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dtporter wrote:Hey guys, I had a friend refer me to this forum since I currently work at Doc's Diner.

I worked there every single day during the two week opening in the spring and I worked there again when it reopened and have worked there ever since. I know about the problems Doc's Diner has at the moment, and I know about the problems that it used to have that we resolved.

First of all, I want to say that when Doc's Diner was hiring, they hired entry-level servers, or servers without prior restaurant experience. This is part of the reason for all these Doc's Diner horror stories. Simply new servers who were stressed and/or not very good at multi-tasking, (serving).

Another reason for poor service falls on new and/or training hosts. Hosts, who sometimes seat people without putting them on a wait, are the reason food takes so long. When the kitchen is only so big, (for the record we have an extremely small kitchen), and the host seats the entire restaurant without a wait. The kitchen can only put orders out so fast, so instead of customers waiting outside, they wait at the tables, which makes the servers and restaurant look bad.

This was the reason for some of your "2 hour wait" horror stories. This was a regular problem during the two week opening, I remember. The restaurant would open at 5 sharp, we would open the doors, and then the hosts would seat every single person who was in line outside, filling the restaurant, stressing out waiters, and driving cooks insane.

We've worked out that problem. For everyone who isn't coming to Doc's anymore because of a previously long wait experience, come back!

I've also noticed how a few of you were mentioning tips with mealpoints and tips in general. I've got a few stories about tips that can parallel your stories about service..

I take my serving job seriously. I will always go out of my way for a customer, and I always am striving to be a better waiter. I know the menu front to back, I've tried most of the food, and I know what good service is.

No matter how good of service I give people. I usually get stiffed, (no tip at all), regularly 3-5 times a night. And this doesn't include the tips that don't even equal up to 5%.

When I'm serving a section that has a party table (the big booths), I dread counting tips at the end of the night. You know why? Because at average I usually get about a 5% tip on large parties of 8-15 people. I've had tables with $150 dollar checks leave me nothing. And I DO NOT give poor service. So to anyone who says the majority of college students tip well.. you're wrong. The majority of college students do not tip well, believe me.

As for your suggestions on being able to tip with meal points, we can't do that, believe me we've thought about it, :P. I forget the exact reason why, but I think it's either tax and/or legal reasons.

So as far as tips go for Doc's Diner, it sucks. On a friday/saturday night, waiters there consider a good night if you walk with 30. In fact, I worked tonight, and I made $37 (a better than average night). Although I did work 8 hours.

I don't really know all that I can cover about Doc's Diner, but if you guys have any questions, or any questions about management let me know. I know alot about that place, alot of the suggestions and improvements have been from my own personal feedback.

And finally, for all you people who have had a bad experience or even just a mediocre experience. Come in one more time and ask for Daniel (me), and I'll be sure to give you great service. If anyone wants to take me up on that I usually work Thursday, Saturday, and Sunday nights.
i think its really cool of you to come on here to straighten things out, but alot of stuff still doesn't make sense. Like I said, I served for 4 years and never really thought that college kids tipped badly, we must have waited on different college kids. Secondly, I don't think its ANY excuse at all to not give good service. You know when you take a job as a server that you will be working for tips. Just becuase someone doesn't leave you the tip that they should, does not mean you have a right to do a less than acceptable job. (i don't mean you, personally. I just mean servers in general)

Lastly, I don't really understand LU opening a restaurant in Doc's honor and not having the means ( a big enough kitchen, a superb wait staff, etc.) to run it properly like a restaurant should be run.
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By Kolzilla41
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Lastly, I don't really understand LU opening a restaurant in Doc's honor and not having the means ( a big enough kitchen, a superb wait staff, etc.) to run it properly like a restaurant should be run.[/quote]

Not Liberty. It's Sodexho.
By thesportscritic
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flamerbob wrote:
Lastly, I don't really understand LU opening a restaurant in Doc's honor and not having the means ( a big enough kitchen, a superb wait staff, etc.) to run it properly like a restaurant should be run.[/quote wrote:
Not Liberty. It's Sodexho.
yep its sodexho :nod
By TDDance234
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No offense, but if you're making $37 in tips on an 8 hour weekend shift and that's better than normal, you need to find a new place to work. Add in your $3 or so an hour from the restaurant your still below $8 an hour. Not worth it for the hard work you're putting in. There are tons of restaurants in town that could use an experienced waiter. You'd definitely make at least double what you are now on weekends.
I agree. Even at the crappier restaurants around town, you should walk away with $60 to $100 on a weekend shift. It's time to find a new job.
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By Kolzilla41
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TDDance234 wrote:
No offense, but if you're making $37 in tips on an 8 hour weekend shift and that's better than normal, you need to find a new place to work. Add in your $3 or so an hour from the restaurant your still below $8 an hour. Not worth it for the hard work you're putting in. There are tons of restaurants in town that could use an experienced waiter. You'd definitely make at least double what you are now on weekends.
I agree. Even at the crappier restaurants around town, you should walk away with $60 to $100 on a weekend shift. It's time to find a new job.
You are not going to walk out with that much working at a regular restaurant in Lynchburg. Maybe Crown Sterling or something else but with the economy, 45 to 65 is a good night for a server.
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By justagirl
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flamerbob wrote:
TDDance234 wrote:
No offense, but if you're making $37 in tips on an 8 hour weekend shift and that's better than normal, you need to find a new place to work. Add in your $3 or so an hour from the restaurant your still below $8 an hour. Not worth it for the hard work you're putting in. There are tons of restaurants in town that could use an experienced waiter. You'd definitely make at least double what you are now on weekends.
I agree. Even at the crappier restaurants around town, you should walk away with $60 to $100 on a weekend shift. It's time to find a new job.
You are not going to walk out with that much working at a regular restaurant in Lynchburg. Maybe Crown Sterling or something else but with the economy, 45 to 65 is a good night for a server.
wrong. I have served in lynchburg for four years. firsthand i know, there is NO reason you should make under 70 bucks. And seventy is on a mediocre night.
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By Kolzilla41
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justagirl wrote:
flamerbob wrote:
TDDance234 wrote: I agree. Even at the crappier restaurants around town, you should walk away with $60 to $100 on a weekend shift. It's time to find a new job.
You are not going to walk out with that much working at a regular restaurant in Lynchburg. Maybe Crown Sterling or something else but with the economy, 45 to 65 is a good night for a server.
wrong. I have served in lynchburg for four years. firsthand i know, there is NO reason you should make under 70 bucks. And seventy is on a mediocre night.
Well I don't know last time you worked or at what restaurant but 70 is a good Friday night if it rains. But I guess 5 years of experience tells me wrong.
By TDDance234
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My wife worked 2 years at a local restaurant and easily, walked home with 80+ during breakfast shifts.

Lynchburg gets a bad rap for bad tippers--you just have to be at the right place during the right shift.
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By Kolzilla41
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Where did they work?
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