[ToTheLeft]

Luke McCown can't handle the play call at the line of scrimmage.

Can't get his guys set up in formation.

Luke calls a timeout and comes to the sideline.

And plain as day, on FOX Television, you see Jon Gruden saying (by reading lips)...

"What the **** is wrong with you?"

He doesn't put up with a QB who can't handle an offense. I love it.

[RagingTireFire]

He doesn't put up with a QB who can't handle an offense. I love it.

And, yet, he put said player on the field in charge of said offense.

This is the part of the conversation you didn't see:

JG: "What the **** is wrong with you?"
Every QB he's had for the last 5 years: "I've got a lousy coach with horrible people skills! That's what's wrong with me!"

[ToTheLeft]

Ummm, no. There are just a lot of dumb QB's out there.

[thepostman]

thats why you love Gruden?? I don't mean to sound harsh...but he isn't that great of a coach...he walked into a great situation and a great team that Dungy had built...he isn't a terrible coach by any means....but I don't know why this would cause you love him....

[RagingTireFire]

If they're so dumb, then why does Chucky keep handing them the reins to his team? If intelligence is at issue on one end, it has to be on the other end, too.

Honestly, if I were one of his players and he asked 'what the @#$% was wrong with me', my reply would be, "There's nothing wrong with me. See, I'm going to be the highest-paid person waiting for you in the parking lot with a tire iron. So, I'm actually quite happy."

[Hold My Own]

I love Chuckie...

[thepostman]

If they're so dumb, then why does Chucky keep handing them the reins to his team? If intelligence is at issue on one end, it has to be on the other end, too.

Honestly, if I were one of his players and he asked 'what the @#$% was wrong with me', my reply would be, "There's nothing wrong with me. See, I'm going to be the highest-paid person waiting for you in the parking lot with a tire iron. So, I'm actually quite happy."

wow...now tell us how you REALLY feel...haha

[4everfsu]

So when is the wedding? lol

[ToTheLeft]

thats why you love Gruden?? I don't mean to sound harsh...but he isn't that great of a coach...he walked into a great situation and a great team that Dungy had built...he isn't a terrible coach by any means....but I don't know why this would cause you love him....

-yawns- I am so tired of hearing about that choke artist Dungy...

Gruden has been here 6 seasons, and won 3 NFC South Titles. That's not just "Dungy's Team".

He isn't perfect, but he is a darn good coach, and handles his players well.

[thepostman]

He is decent...but come on the NFC south??? Not much of a division...

I am not saying he is terrible by any means...but he is far from anything great. He won one super bowl, and that was with Dungy's guys....that team would've won the super bowl if Dungy would've been still around...That is my opinion...

I like Gruden as a person, he makes me laugh...but Tampa will never go any further then NFC South champs as long as he is coach...

[ToTheLeft]

Except that they should have 2 years ago were it not for a horrible call from a ref, and he DID win a Super Bowl, whether or not Dungy "set it up" for him.

And this year will be a good litmus test.

[MacGeek]

well the gmen will tampa the first round of the playoffs and probably will get pwned

[ToTheLeft]

well the gmen will tampa the first round of the playoffs and probably will get pwned

First of all, that wasn't even a sentence.

Second of all, it's in Tampa, where we play well.

Third, Our defense will control the Giants offense, all we have to do is score a couple times and it's over.

[MacGeek]

The Giants are on a seven game road win streak. Giants are a different team on the road, plus eli sucks in cold weather... not good for a New York football team.

[thepostman]

Except that they should have 2 years ago were it not for a horrible call from a ref, and he DID win a Super Bowl, whether or not Dungy "set it up" for him.

And this year will be a good litmus test.

and the Patriots wouldn't of won their first super bowl if it weren't for that bad call that went their way....there are always ifs and sports, the good teams won't leave their destiny to ifs...

but you are right this season will be a great test for them...

[jack_sparrow81]

He set up the Raiders though for the NFC title though that same year.

[jack_sparrow81]

He set up the Raiders though for the NFC title though that same year.

[ToTheLeft]

He set up the Raiders though for the NFC title though that same year.

AFC, but yes, you are correct.