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By SuperJon
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If they throw the UNC loss out the window, why won't they throw our Toledo loss out?
By Stevev
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Lets see I have UMass, Richmond, New Hampshire as in and the winner of Delaware vs Villanova. Outside shot of Hofstra and the Delaware even if they loose.
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By ToTheLeft
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Is someone gonna have some way to keep track of all these games while we are at the G-W game?

Cuz we want Mass over Hofstra, Delaware over Nova, and VMI over Citadel

EKU plays Tennesee Tech (EKU losing would be a huge upset)
EWU plays Weber State (There is a glimmer of hope in this one)
WIU Plays Youngstown, a very losable game
By SuperJon
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Stevev wrote:Lets see I have UMass, Richmond, New Hampshire as in and the winner of Delaware vs Villanova. Outside shot of Hofstra and the Delaware even if they loose.
You're dumb. 7-4 New Hampshire? That's not happening.
By Stevev
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Superjohn wrote
If they throw the UNC loss out the window, why won't they throw our Toledo loss out?

Maybe but then the William and Mary loss will used against us since they are not in the running.
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By flamesfilmguy
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Steve you aren't reading. there are 5 teams that have the ability to make it to the playoffs in the CAA. three of them (UD,UMASS,UR) are almost shoe ins already. The selection committee has only allowed 4 teams from one confrence 1 time ever. that leaves hofstra and JMU out in the cold.
See this is where i've found a flaw in the system. if a very good team does really well out of confrence but maybe comes in second or third in a tough confrence they can be ranked in the top 10 and still not make it by virtue of the fact that there are too many teams from their confrence already in the playoffs.
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By ToTheLeft
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SuperJon wrote:
Stevev wrote:Lets see I have UMass, Richmond, New Hampshire as in and the winner of Delaware vs Villanova. Outside shot of Hofstra and the Delaware even if they loose.
You're dumb. 7-4 New Hampshire? That's not happening.
He is as biased as ESPN.

If it isn't happening in the northeast, it isn't happeneing.
By SuperJon
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He has a hard-on for the CAA. He always has.
By LUconn
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flamesfilmguy wrote:Steve you aren't reading. there are 5 teams that have the ability to make it to the playoffs in the CAA. three of them (UD,UMASS,UR) are almost shoe ins already. The selection committee has only allowed 4 teams from one confrence 1 time ever. that leaves hofstra and JMU out in the cold.
See this is where i've found a flaw in the system. if a very good team does really well out of confrence but maybe comes in second or third in a tough confrence they can be ranked in the top 10 and still not make it by virtue of the fact that there are too many teams from their confrence already in the playoffs.
But there seems to be no written rule about it. I find it hard to believe that if it came down to us and somebody who was clearly superior we would get the nod because their conference already has 3 or 4. But hey the NCAA bball comittee is sometimes that stupid so I guess this one may be too.
By Stevev
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I wasn't aware of the fact that New Hamshire had 4 losses. My bad so they are gone. That leaves the other CAA teams and hopefully some of these well deserviing teams will be left out in the cold so only 3 get invited and not 4. Hopefully the selection committee will not dwell on our SOS thing too much.
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By flamesfilmguy
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My guess is that they dont want to have confrences playing each other in 1st rounders, and second. why would you put a team who went 5-2(JMU) or 4-3(hofstra) in their confrence even though it was a stronger confrence? oh and steve UNH is 6-4 over all and 3-4 in confrence. they lost to NORTHEASTERN i don't know if you got that but they lost to NORTHEASTERN! they are out. WAY out.
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By flamesfilmguy
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oh and hofstra lost to northeastern as well. lets not forget northeastern is 3-7 with wins over one DII school and hofstra and UNH
By TDDance234
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El Scorcho wrote:
TDDance234 wrote:The first true test of this program comes after this season. We're loosing a ton of talent from this team and in order to be counted as a program on the rise, we have to respond.
Where did that come from?
Most of the teams on this list are consistantly solid teams--which could provide them the edge when the commitee looks to add the at-large bids. We need to be consinstantly in this discussion for outsiders to consider this program to be on the rise.
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By RagingTireFire
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WIU already played Youngstown and lost.
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By ToTheLeft
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RagingTireFire wrote:WIU already played Youngstown and lost.
I found that out after looking around some more and forgot to edit it.
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By RagingTireFire
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On a somewhat related note, Toledo plays Ball State on ESPN2 tonight. The winner of the game breaks .500 and becomes bowl-eligible.
By Stevev
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I will watching it along with following LU hoops tonight. Go Toledo!
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By Sly Fox
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I'll be a Rockets fan in two sports tonight. :wink:
By Stevev
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Could that be Houston and Toledo
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By PAmedic
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gotta think Delaware will beat 'nova.

that's a tough one to call, though
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By flamesfilmguy
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Its at nova and they have something to play for. one can only hope UD wins
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By 01LUGrad
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Flat out mean.

I get home from work and all I read about is our chances of making the playoffs. I was perfectly content in my cave watching the shadows and thinking we had no chance. Thanks.
By Chris Lang
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Really, there are about two berths up for grabs.

Eastern Washington gets a middling Weber State team at home, and if it wins to get to 8-3, EWU is in. 8-3 in the Big Sky is traditionally a lock.

UMass and Richmond are both in, no matter who gets the auto bid.

Southern Illinois (9-1) is a lock.

Appalachian State (8-2) is a lock.

Delaware (8-2) is a lock.

James Madison (7-3), vs. 3-7 Towson at home, is a lock if it wins.

There are six of your at larges right there.

The teams LU should be watching Saturday:
Norfolk State (7-3) ... they host Winston-Salem State, and even with a win, I don't think NSU is a lock at 8-3 and in second-place in a weak MEAC. SCSU and Hampton were both down this year. You don't want Hampton beating Southern Illinois Saturday. That would give the MEAC a bump in the committee's eyes and more credence to NSU's win at HU.

Hofstra (7-3) ... if Hofstra beats UMass, it's a disaster for the Flames' hopes. That would pretty much seal a berth for the Pride.

Albany (7-3) ... they play at Central Connecticut (6-4). Albany has what LU needs, a signature win. They beat Fordham, the Patriot League champ. Also, their losses are good losses, to Hofstra, Montana and Colgate. You need Albany to lose. They'd be more attractive at 8-3 than Liberty.

Colgate (7-3) ... they finish at Holy Cross (6-4), have a good win against Albany and good losses to UMass and Fordham. The Cornell loss is a bad one. You need to root for Holy Cross here.

Eastern Illinois (7-3) ... finish at home against Samford (4-6). The OVC has been awful this year. No good wins for EIU and a bad loss at a 4-7 Illinois State team. The Big South is ranked ahead of the OVC in the GPI, so that's a good thing.

Georgia Southern (7-3) ... go to Colorado State (1-9). Still, it's not easy beating even a down FBS team, as Grambling found out last week at ULM. GSU has an unsightly loss to 2-8 Chattanooga, but a great win at App State. Root for the Rams.

Alabama A&M (8-2) ... even at 9-2, AAMU's only remotely good win is against Southern, with losses to Grambling and Jackson State. The SWAC rarely gets love when it comes to the committee. They have no chance at 8-3 (they finish at Prairie View).
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By BJWilliams
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SOmeone mentioned on page one about blowout wins in conference.

Here are LU's conference results from this year:

vs Charleston Southern W 50-10
vs Coastal Carolina W 37-24 (and it shouldn't have been THAT close)
vs. VMI 73-34

Here are Coastal Carolina's COnference results form last year when they made the playoffs (with the win over #3 at the time Furman in the OOC schedule):

vs VMI W 31-27
vs Liberty W 28-26
vs Gardner-Webb W 52-24
vs Charleston Southern W 31-17

THe only really DOMINATING victory CCU had in conference was over Gardner-Webb. Having that win over Furman really bolstered their standing with the selection committee. I think that if LU had won over W&M and/or even won against Toledo and/or Elon, theyd probably be in with a victory over G-W this weekend. Id be thrilled if we somehow did make the playoffs, though I don't see it happening this year.
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