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are the 2007 new england patriots one of the best teams ever?

yes
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76%
no
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24%
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By ToTheLeft
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They aren't going for style points, those don't count.

They are going for momentum, power, respect, fear.

And they are earning those.

Whine and complain all you want, it is the best way to get over the pain of getting trucked by probably what will be the best team ever.

19-0.

You read it here, a confident prediction. The Pat's will not lose, and will go down as the best team in NFL History.

I mean, a 60TD QB, 3 10TD Receivers, a very solid defense. I'm not sure what they do wrong. They do everything so right.
By SuperJon
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They're offense isn't that physical. Let em run into a defense like the old Ravens, etc, and they wouldn't be nearly as good. No one in the NFL is good on defense this year.
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By ToTheLeft
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The Rams offense wasn't physical, and it is consensus one of the best ever.
By SuperJon
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But their team wasn't regarded as one of the best teams.
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By ToTheLeft
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It should have been.

They had the best offense and 4th best defense that year, with a 3rd string turned MVP QB.
By kentuckywildcats
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After pouring over AccuScore data, the most interesting observation involves the Patriots and their likelihood of an undefeated season. The Patriots currently have a 30 percent chance of going 16-0, which is a statistically huge number. However, should the Patriots defeat the Colts in Indianapolis, New England's probability of going undefeated literally doubles to an astounding 60 percent.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3085707
By Realist
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Yes, but do those probabilities count injuries? Once that DE takes out Brady when it's 42-0, NE isn't going undefeated. They aren't going undefeated if Moss gets injured either.
By kentuckywildcats
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Realist wrote:Yes, but do those probabilities count injuries? Once that DE takes out Brady when it's 42-0, NE isn't going undefeated. They aren't going undefeated if Moss gets injured either.
well first of all, the DE would ahve to be in the position to get to Brady. He's been practically untouchable this year. he gets so much time in the pocket that he could take a long nap, wake up, and then still have about 5 hours to get a pass off.
By LUconn
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wow, that's good protection!
By thepostman
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givemethemic wrote:This isn't college it's the pro's...I have no problems with it all!!!! I am not a Pats fan but it's not there fault thtat no one can stop them....They are getting paid tons of money and if they can't do there job then too bad!!! (Browns)
i think i heard this same exact line last night somewhere....hmmmm where could it have been??

by the way I agree with you 100%...I don't know how often this happens...moment of silence
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By RubberMallet
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kentuckywildcats wrote:
Realist wrote:Yes, but do those probabilities count injuries? Once that DE takes out Brady when it's 42-0, NE isn't going undefeated. They aren't going undefeated if Moss gets injured either.
well first of all, the DE would ahve to be in the position to get to Brady. He's been practically untouchable this year. he gets so much time in the pocket that he could take a long nap, wake up, and then still have about 5 hours to get a pass off.
he's getting sacked once a game.....and then hes only getting hit twice a game...

thats ridiculous protection...teams can't blitz....he picks apart the cover 2 he has 3 more than capable receivers and 2 tightends and fb's and rb's that can sneakout into the backfield....
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By PeterParker
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Realist wrote:
Realist wrote:
TDDance234 wrote:It wouldn't have been a problem if he didn't put Brady BACK IN THE GAME in the fourth quarter. He better be careful--some over-zealous DL is going to take a shot at his knees if they keep play-actioning on 4th down, up by 40, with 2 minutes left.
I kept thinking the same thing as I watched the 4th quarter. I almost expected after the whistle blew on one falst start on NE that the Redskins DE was going to keep coming and bury him. It's going to happen if they keep doing this, some guy is going to claim he didn't hear the whistle and Brady's leg is going to snap in two. And I can't say that I will be entirely disappointed. When you're up by at least 4 scores and he's still in, you are asking for it.

I say this even though NE is making me a pretty penny every week, it's like free money every sunday. The running up the score takes all the risk off of laying the line with NE.

Some overzealous DL would also find himself staring at the business end of a massive crippling fine and a career altering suspension. It's pretty humorous and a bit disturbing to read on other NFL boards folks who are salivating over this exact scenario. In all the time that Aikman, Young and Montana were in the league, during which I "loved to hate" those teams, I never once wanted them to get hurt...that, to me is much more egregious than a perceived deliberate score padding. I mean, I'm aware that the girdiron is America's civilized answer to the Roman Coliseum, but, wow...


I can understand some of the vitriol that is spewed as I always loved to hate the 49ers in their day and the Cowboys in theirs...but some of this stuff is just ridiculous. The selective amnesia is entertaining, since it was only a short time ago when Manning was going for his record that they left him in when the games were decidedly in hand. And let's not get started on Steve Young who took NE to task on MNF. Perhaps its further evidence of selective amnesia, but he hung 6 TD passes in a 55-10 romp of SD in the Super Bowl. The Niners also averaged their wins by 20 + points in their day.


Leads evaporate in the league quickly (a la Texans/Titans) and going on it on fourth down was a run of the mill run play so as to avoid putting up the gauranteed 3 points. Then the turnover. (I'm aware that this is a matter of perspective as those who "love to hate" the Pats see this chain of events decidedly different.) While I am not a fan of deliberately hanging points on end, the second, third and some fourth stringers were in with a few a vets to guide them...I mean, if the Patriots just handed the ball to the Skins, then they would be accused of condescension towards their opponents.


Oh, as an aside, Belichick isn't arrogant, just methodical and stoic. Now, Bill Parcels, that guy was arrogant and dismissive (even when he was on the Pats side.) Has the sensitive patrol really abducted fans of the NFL, so that coaches now have to be lovey-dovey in their postgame interviews for the fans to be satisfied (As evidence, listen to a few full interviews on WEEI here http://www.weei.com/pages/268228.php, rather than relying on the 30 second ESPN soundbites.) Even though I am a Pats fan and some will invariably disqualify my points on that account, I don't see arrogance there at all. Perhaps many hate the hoodie, but come on, have the fashion police and metros really taken over the NFL now with all of the belly aching?


(But as a Pats fan, I largely stay out of all this and sit back and kind of soak up all of the vitriol as Pats fans know that it only fuels the fire of the "us vs. them" philosophy the Pats utilize to galvanize the team. One day the Patriots will be Brady-less and Belichick-less and all will have turned their vitriol to the en vogue team to hate at that point...perhaps a London-based team. :D )
By SuperJon
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The only difference in Manning/Dungy and Brady/Bellichick is Manning and Dungy are likable. Brady and Belichick are self-absorbed jerks.
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By PeterParker
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SuperJon wrote:The only difference in Manning/Dungy and Brady/Bellichick is Manning and Dungy are likable. Brady and Belichick are self-absorbed pricks.
See, all perspective. I respect Dungy, but Payton has always come across as a whiner to me over the years (although he is pretty funny in some of the commercials.)
By thepostman
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Manning a whiner??? please explain
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By ToTheLeft
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#123163
"Our idiot kicker..."
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By RubberMallet
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SuperJon wrote:The only difference in Manning/Dungy and Brady/Bellichick is Manning and Dungy are likable. Brady and Belichick are self-absorbed jerks.
huh?....brady is super likable....manning is the one who is known to throw his teammates under the bus when they lose...
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By RubberMallet
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<--stupid
By LUconn
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This guy
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is more likeable than this guy?
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doubtful
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By RubberMallet
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don't hate because brady is beautiful....and you find the most douchey picture of brady you can find and the goofiest of peyton....i can play that game

this guy

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is more likable than this guy?

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doubt it
By LUconn
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actually, I was trying to get that picture of brady with the sport jacket on top of the hoodie, but the only one I could find was blocked by our filter.
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By bigsmooth
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they are scary good. so i would say yes, but i think they will have to win the super bowl before peole will annoint them.
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By RubberMallet
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LUconn wrote:actually, I was trying to get that picture of brady with the sport jacket on top of the hoodie, but the only one I could find was blocked by our filter.
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this one? yeah its douchetastic
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