[DutchyNY]

Jason Jones was recently promoted to AAA Scranton Yankees and faired pretty well giving up just 1 hit over 5 innings pitched against the Buffalo Bisons on 6/28. He is one step closer to taking the mound at Yankee stadium hopefully this year.

[jcmanson]

Well, if it’s not this year he will never pitch at the house that Ruth built.

[RagingTireFire]

Well, if it’s not this year he will never pitch at the house that Ruth built.

Why? Does he turn 30 this year?

(Where my 'Logan's Run' peeps at?)

[prototype]

Well, if it’s not this year he will never pitch at the house that Ruth built.

Why? Does he turn 30 this year?

(Where my 'Logan's Run' peeps at?)

I think he was referring to the new stadium being built.

[RagingTireFire]

Well, that makes more sense then.

[jcmanson]

Yes, I was referring to the stadium.

[DutchyNY]

that was short lived....... Jones was scheduled to start Thursday nite but some dl/roster moves have landed him back in trenton. i personally don't get it as a yankees fan why kei igawa is in the rotation at the aaa level when he has proven he cannot hack it and jason is not getting more of a fair shake when he apparently proved himself in his first start.

[Schfourteenteen]

All this time I could go and see him, never knew.

AWESOME

[PAmedic]

if you go to a Thunder game you 'd better call me first

[Ed Dantes]

that was short lived....... Jones was scheduled to start Thursday nite but some dl/roster moves have landed him back in trenton. i personally don't get it as a yankees fan why kei igawa is in the rotation at the aaa level when he has proven he cannot hack it and jason is not getting more of a fair shake when he apparently proved himself in his first start.

That is an excellent question, and I don't have the answer to it. Here's my guess:

Kei Igawa is not in the major leagues, but he is on the Yankees' 40-man roster. The 40-man roster consists of the 25 people that dress for the New York Yankees every day, people on the DL, and a few in the minor leagues (like Kei Igawa).

If there is an injury to, say, Mike Mussina, the Yankees will place Mussina on the 15-day DL. At that point, the Yankees won't just select the best player in their minor league system, they will replace him from someone on from the 40-man roster, like Kei Igawa.

That being said, it benefits the Yankees to have Igawa facing a higher level of competition, seeing as though he is only an injury or two away from returning to the big leagues.

As for Jason Jones, a couple of things needs to happen before he is in Yankee pinstripes. Basically, you need a bunch of people to be removed from the 40-man roster...

#1 - If a player suffers a major injury, he can be placed on what's called the 60-day DL (think of someone like Carl Pavano). That frees up a spot on the 40-man roster, so Jason Jones can be promoted.

#2 - You can't just demote anyone from the majors into the minors. Anyone who has spent less than three years in the majors can be sent down (or 'optioned down') to the minors as many times as the parent club wants. If he has been in the majors more than three years, (and I'm simplifying this), the player is "out of options". In that case, the parent club says that the player is 'designated for assignment' and is thus removed immediately from teh 40-man roster. The team then has 10 days to trade / release or put the player on waivers.

#3 - and this is the most likely situation for Jason reaching the majors -- is through something called the Rule 5 draft. If you have spent several years in the minors (and it depends on how old you were when you were drafted), and you are not yet on your team's 40-man roster, you are eligible to be picked through the 'rule 5' draft. Basically, some other team can buy you from another club, and then they have to put you on their 25-man roster (the majors). Johan Santana, believe it or not, was picked this way. He was toiling in the Astros farm system. The Marlins picked him in the rule 5 draft and traded him to Minnesota. Minnesota put him on their 25-man roster, and maintained the rights to him after that.





Long story short -- the roster process in Major League Baseball is complicated. Jason can't just get 'called up' without the Yankees jumping through hoops. Because it's easier for them to call up Kei Igawa instead of jason Jones, Kei Igawa is in AAA facing stronger competition.

[krh44]

Not to change subjest but whatever Flames are on minor league rosters this summer?

[Hold My Own]

They are trying to "force" JJ through the minors right now...if you know what I mean. NY said this year was VERY important for him...they are going to continue to put him in tough situations to see how he reacts...and if it's not good then he could be a lifer in the minors...I had my doubts before...but I really think we'll see him in pinstripes here soon...(year or so) but like ED said before, you cant just call anyone up...not to mention the moment you do you're now paying him somewhere around $200,000 more then your paying him right now.

[Ed Dantes]

Three of Jason's teammates got promoted to AAA recently, but Jason didn't get the call... last year at this time, somethign similar happened and Jason got so irritated that he wound up tanking the rest of the season. Let's hope he doesn't -- and he makes the Yankees regret their decision.

[Ed Dantes]

FYI, Jason's up at AAA again. He gave up 3 runs in 6 1/3 innings yesterday, and allowed only 5 hits.

[Ed Dantes]

I wrote this a few months ago:

#3 - and this is the most likely situation for Jason reaching the majors -- is through something called the Rule 5 draft. If you have spent several years in the minors (and it depends on how old you were when you were drafted), and you are not yet on your team's 40-man roster, you are eligible to be picked through the 'rule 5' draft. Basically, some other team can buy you from another club, and then they have to put you on their 25-man roster (the majors). Johan Santana, believe it or not, was picked this way. He was toiling in the Astros farm system. The Marlins picked him in the rule 5 draft and traded him to Minnesota. Minnesota put him on their 25-man roster, and maintained the rights to him after that.

Jason Jones was selected #14 in the MLB Rule 5 draft, meaning he is going to be on a MLB twenty-five man roster next year! Or have to go back to New York's farm system.

[SumItUp]

Jason Jones was selected #14 in the MLB Rule 5 draft, meaning he is going to be on a MLB twenty-five man roster next year! Or have to go back to New York's farm system.

to the Minnesota Twins

[Sly Fox]

12/11/08
Meet and greet Jason Jones (& Nick Punto)

The Twins today filled their 40 man roster (they can more Pat Neshek to the 60 day DL and still have an open spot) by re-signing Nick Punto and drafting Jason Jones from the New York Yankees in the major league part of the rule 5 draft (they lost 3 players in the draft and acquired one in the minor league portion, but this will be another post).

Who is Jason Jones?

Jason who turned 26 last November 20th, was selected in the 4th round of the amateur draft of 2005 by the Yankees from Liberty University. A couple of times he was named the pitcher of the week (2006, Florida State League) and 2008 (Eastern League). He was a Florida State League Mid-season All Star in 2006. His arsenal of pitches include a 2-seamer that tops out at 92 mph, a plus plus 81-83 mph slider with late breaking action in to lefties and away from righties, a split-finger fastball (his strikeout pitch) and a changeup that he throws occasionally.

And here is this prognosticator's thoughts ...

How does he fit in the Twins' plans? He could be a change of page reliever in the major league club (however, that would require that one of the current relievers or Phillip Humber who is out of options get dealt.) or his contract could be bought via a trade and have a spot in Rochester's rotation in 2009. If I were to guess, I would guess that unless there is a trade and he shocks the universe in spring training, he would either return to the Yankees or get traded by the Yankees and will start in Rochester. The Twins will surely get a good look of him in spring training because there would be several of their pitchers expected to play in the the World Baseball Classic, which would result in Jones pitching more innings.

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[DutchyNY]

hopefully he lands in rochester...it would give me a reason to go to red wings games other than when they are playing scranton

[Hold My Own]

I was in the DR with one of the new pitchers for the Twins just a few months ago...I hope he doesnt lose his job, he's a great Christian guy

[Hold My Own]

hopefully he lands in rochester...it would give me a reason to go to red wings games other than when they are playing scranton

Him playing in Rochester goes against the whole Rule 5 rules and would cause him to be sent back to the Yanks and a financial penalty...he's gotta stay on the big league roster

[DutchyNY]

thats for the entire season he would have to stay on the roster?....i read this story a day or so after it happened and was a bit confused on the details of it...so if the twins cannot use him the yanks get him back and they can put him at aaa or would he have to be on their roster as well

[Hold My Own]

If the twins cant use him he will return to the Yanks and they can put him wherever they want...it shows respect though being taken in the Rule 5 so either way its a good sign for him...the Twins wouldnt have taken him or paid the money if they didnt have high hopes for him so this is a good sign...not to mention now the Yanks realize if he was to return that he has some value maybe to be added in a trade

[Hold My Own]

Havent seen this posted but Jason got the win yesterday against his former Yanks with 2 innings pitched



I'm telling you guys this is a great situation for him b/c he has to spend the year in the Big's or the yanks get him back and there is a penalty $500,000k ? Something like that anyways here is his chance....I hope he makes the most of it!

[Ed Dantes]

He's pitched four games so far, six innings, and given up just one run.

From Rotowire:

"The Rule 5 pick's chances of making the Twins have improved with the loss of Boof Bonser and the team's failure to add Juan Cruz."

[SumItUp]

I'm telling you guys this is a great situation for him b/c he has to spend the year in the Big's or the yanks get him back and there is a penalty $500,000k ?

Rule 5 draftees are purchased for $50,000.00. If they do not remain on the major league roster, they are offered back to the original team for $25,000.00. Depending on the makeup of the original team (if their minor league teams are fully staffed at that position, a cash or draft compensation may be worked out so the player is able to remain with the Rule 5 drafting team (with a possible minor league assignment).

In major league dollars, the financial risk is not that big. However, if the player makes the opening day roster, the team has invested a valuable roster spot. It is a good sign for Jason that there was interest from the Twins and someone thought he might have an opportunity to make the club, but major league camps still have 45+ players in camp right now. It is very similar to a non-roster invite (albeit with a $50,000 price tag).