A Sea Of Red

the flames look to stop a two game losing streak as the spartans come to town with the first pitch scheduled for 3pm. Norfolk State comes in at (11-10 overall, 3-3 MEAC) after a weekend sweep of coppin state. the weather looks good today so get out to worthington if you can!

website sait LU lost 8-5 but O am really hoping the forgot that yesterday was April Fool's Day

Nope, we really lost. 4 more errors, and Negron seems to have come down with Chuck Knoblauch disease... kid can't play defense anymore, particularly throwing.

once again, the infield was bad. is negron the second baseman? he had 3 errors i think

First of all let me say that I have no ties with any Liberty coaches. I have no idea of what has gone on with the hirings and firings. I want to share a different perspective on the season, I hope all opinions are welcome.
It seems that most are blaming the players for the "losing season" thus far(12-14). These are the same players, (minus two starting position players) that won 36 games last year. If they are not fundamentally sound as some have suggested then the former coach really did a good job.
IMO the new coach must take some of the blame for the disappointing start. I don't care how good your thoroughbreds are, the jockey must know how to ride.
Consider these facts:
1. A great recruiter does not equal a great coach. ( almost anyone could recruit for USC )
2. Zero years as a Head Coach equals "on the job training".
3. The players do not look like they are having fun. (Would be nice to hear from some of them)
4. The players look like they are afraid of making a mistake. (You gotta want the ball to come to you)
5. There are actually nine '07 recruits on the team, not 3.
Do not give up on this team yet, there is still a whole lot of baseball to be played.

Welcome to the Board... and Opinions are always welcome... IF they are good enough maybe one day I will agree with you hahah Just kidding

I do think that missing a couple key components affected today...although the errors are REALLY getting on my nerves.

yeah BJ it looked like Keller and girjalva (sp?) didn't play today

Leonardo - welcome
I don't think any has given up on Coach Toman yet. I think of all the sports team coming into this sports year baseball was the one I was most excited about. Had top 60 team last year and return a lot of key players and with the new coach things looked good for this squad. They have played well at times beating ND and playing a good series against Coastel, things looked they have in the past but being shut out twice in two weeks, losing 2 to a Columbia team that only had 2 wins at the time and doing poorly against instate opponents they look like a different team. The season is still early - winning the conference is still obtainable. Go Flames!

How did we manage to lose to Norfolk State of all teams? Eeeeesh thats bad...

on a funny note one of our members had the game stopped so the ump could make him move b/c he was talkin crap to the ump haha

JDUB wrote:on a funny note one of our members had the game stopped so the ump could make him move b/c he was talkin crap to the ump haha

Come on, Blue. What happened to freedom of speech?

I just let him know he missed a called ball, then of course the next pitch is singled into right costing us two runs...so a simple "that's on you" and he turned around and yelled something at me and I simply responded back that "I'm glad you can hear, b/c you sure cant see" and there may have been a rabbit ears thrown in there some where...but of course even though that was all that was said the game couldnt go on until I left...unreal, if I've said it once I've said it before I wish some people would take a trip to a real SEC, ACC or Big East school...let's see what they say!



I felt like I kept it clean...I mean I could have dove into his off the field issues!

Hold My Own wrote:I just let him know he missed a called ball, then of course the next pitch is singled into right costing us two runs...so a simple "that's on you" and he turned around and yelled something at me and I simply responded back that "I'm glad you can hear, b/c you sure cant see" and there may have been a rabbit ears thrown in there some where...but of course even though that was all that was said the game couldnt go on until I left...unreal, if I've said it once I've said it before I wish some people would take a trip to a real SEC, ACC or Big East school...let's see what they say!



I felt like I kept it clean...I mean I could have dove into his off the field issues!

BRAVO....BRAVO. That is the ultimate comeback to the ump saying something to you!

That was it, HMO?

Heaven help that ump if he ever called a game at Texas or A&M. In Austin, a group called the 'Wild Bunch' starts working the umps the second they arrive at the Disch.

Hold My Own wrote:I just let him know he missed a called ball, then of course the next pitch is singled into right costing us two runs...so a simple "that's on you" and he turned around and yelled something at me and I simply responded back that "I'm glad you can hear, b/c you sure cant see" and there may have been a rabbit ears thrown in there some where...but of course even though that was all that was said the game couldnt go on until I left...unreal, if I've said it once I've said it before I wish some people would take a trip to a real SEC, ACC or Big East school...let's see what they say!



I felt like I kept it clean...I mean I could have dove into his off the field issues!

What kind of christian are you? Oh maybe you are competitive like RD? Did you cuss? I bet I could get some students to say they heard you.

In all seriousness your passion is appreciated.

First of all let me say that I have no ties with any Liberty coaches. I have no idea of what has gone on with the hirings and firings. I want to share a different perspective on the season, I hope all opinions are welcome.
It seems that most are blaming the players for the "losing season" thus far(12-14). These are the same players, (minus two starting position players) that won 36 games last year. If they are not fundamentally sound as some have suggested then the former coach really did a good job.
IMO the new coach must take some of the blame for the disappointing start. I don't care how good your thoroughbreds are, the jockey must know how to ride.
Consider these facts:
1. A great recruiter does not equal a great coach. ( almost anyone could recruit for USC )
2. Zero years as a Head Coach equals "on the job training".
3. The players do not look like they are having fun. (Would be nice to hear from some of them)
4. The players look like they are afraid of making a mistake. (You gotta want the ball to come to you)
5. There are actually nine '07 recruits on the team, not 3.
Do not give up on this team yet, there is still a whole lot of baseball to be played.

Nice to have new member on board, and we are here to agree to disagree, but evidently, you so do not have ANY baseball savvy- think about this leo, the only reason they won so many games was because of the BAD schedule. Granted this years does not look any brighter, but the teams lu played last year have improved. Can't believe that lu won that many games with 99 errors last year. The lu players have not improved, so therefore that explains why the # of losses have gone up. Not on the coaches shoulders, have you sat thru a practice? All three coaches are training and teaching the entire time. These players try, but do not possess any of the 5 tools needed to make it on the diamond. Harsh, but true-

#1- YOU could not recruit for USC. Have you been to Omaha as player or coach? Let me sit and laugh at you before I read your reply. If anyone can do it, why not you? Obviously you have not visited the facilities at sc. Dead last in the SEC, and he still was able to bring in #1 recruiting classes consistently year after year and make it to the cws. read his bio.
#2- he has all the on the job training that he needs. Please educate me in any time this year that we were not in the game at the end, and a "play from the bench" was not called? The games that I have attended and lost looked like the upperclassmen were the ones striking out and missing signs not the coach. Am I right? I am not sure, but I believe that we have seen more hit and runs, more steals, more bunts, more squeezes than before. Please correct me if I am wrong. Stategically, we have been in there. it is the pasture players that are not getting it done. I don't think he would have left a top 3 program to ride a bunch of donkies, but that is exactly what he inherited. not one of these did he bring in and in mho, he would not have recruited one of them at sc.
#3- would you be having fun if you were the embarassment that you are, and still looked that bad after taking 150 ground balls in practice every day? Anyone figure out why we have so many "infield" hits against us? I think the answer lies in not having the athletes to get to the balls. jmo
#4- I am sure they are afraid of making mistakes! At this time, they make more errors than the recorded hits
#5- there were actually only 3 sch. players, the rest were walk-ons and it surely shows!

Not giving up on this team as I have to say the effort is there, just not the talent. If lu is ever to compete, they are going to need the big horses, and these will just have to saddle up and do there best until the big ones arrive. I feel for the coaching staff because none of them are accustomed to losing. the Storm usually doesnt have 13 losses for an entire season, so you have to feel for him. how frustrating. But the ship will set sail for asheville and hopfully the guys can battle thru injuries and lack of talent and make the conference schedule a little more exciting-

Hold My Own wrote:I just let him know he missed a called ball, then of course the next pitch is singled into right costing us two runs...so a simple "that's on you" and he turned around and yelled something at me and I simply responded back that "I'm glad you can hear, b/c you sure cant see" and there may have been a rabbit ears thrown in there some where...but of course even though that was all that was said the game couldnt go on until I left...unreal, if I've said it once I've said it before I wish some people would take a trip to a real SEC, ACC or Big East school...let's see what they say!



I felt like I kept it clean...I mean I could have dove into his off the field issues!

Welcome to my life during basketball season.

checkmate wrote: What kind of christian are you? Oh maybe you are competitive like RD? Did you cuss? I bet I could get some students to say they heard you.

I move that the next person who mentions "RD" be banned until football season. This is getting ri-frickin'-diculous.

RagingTireFire wrote:

checkmate wrote: What kind of christian are you? Oh maybe you are competitive like RD? Did you cuss? I bet I could get some students to say they heard you.

I move that the next person who mentions "RD" be banned until football season. This is getting ri-frickin'-diculous.

RD

Execute him.

where do we send the blindfold and cigarette?

JDUB wrote:on a funny note one of our members had the game stopped so the ump could make him move b/c he was talkin crap to the ump haha

And we all know that if you tell the ump how bad he is, he'll usually agree and start calling things our way.

just for information sake...and i am a newcomer too,........who is rd and what relationship does he have to liberty?